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[enayasoul]

CrutchCricket wrote...

The RGB needs to be completely obliterated from existence. There is not a single part of anything that happens after Anderson dies that I find acceptable. I needed to say that because there was still talk of the endings. Oh and one final off-topic question? What's Mass Shift?

Now back to Miranda. There's no reason she and Shepard can't have a personal "home life" while still being important vital people to the galaxy. They don't need to retire but neither do they need to spend all their time on the battlefield.

Oh and to whoever brought up the MGS4 ending- could not agree with you more. In typical Hideo Kojima fashion it took hours of cutscenes and dialogue to actually end but it was damn satisfying when it did.

Also love the playing card ideas. I'm pretty sure there's already ME playing cards but I'm not sure who's what. Anyway my picks would be:
Shepard: Ace of Spades
Miranda: Queen of Spades
Joker: self-explanatory.
Kasumi: Also a joker. Humorous, bit of a wild card, it's the best fit.

I couldn't agree with you more. MyShep was there to stop the Reapers not freaking join or control them.    To this "mass shi*t it should be called.  It's stupid.  I've read the 'fake rumor' it's complete garbage and if they do go this way then I am done with Bioware, EA everything.  They were the best gaming company but apparently it's gone to shi*t after they've been bought out... using and abusing their once good name... I won't even buy Dragon Age 3 or anything with that label.

Anyways, back to Miranda... Queen of Spades is perfect.   Great job on the artwork, you rock!

[jtav]

Matt's cheerfully stepping into the shadows once he has his body back. There are paintings to make and a whole galaxy to reconnect to the galaxy. He's not going to be spending the rest of his life shooting things. The world needs to be rebuilt, and he's not much for politics. Commander Shepard is dead. Long live Matt. Miranda has the remnants of Cerberus and LawsonCo. to help rebuild. They're together, functionally immortal, and working to rebuild. Matt occasionally helps deal with the Old Machines and they've both done surveying work for rebuilding relays.

[flemm]

jtav wrote...

Couple of screens.

*snip*

Those are great, the first one especially, thanks

[CrutchCricket]

o Ventus wrote...

CrutchCricket wrote...

Oh and one final off-topic question? What's Mass Shift?

Ignorance is bliss. Be thankful you don't yet know.

I'm pretty sure nothing short of Lucas leading an army of Jar-Jar Binks could ruin Mass Effect more than the RGB. And there's no reason to guard against spoilers anymore particularly since this isn't confirmed right? So someone feel free to PM me if you don't want to derail this.

[jtav]

flemm wrote...

jtav wrote...

Couple of screens.

*snip*

Those are great, the first one especially, thanks

First one as new OP pic?

[o Ventus]

Miranda - Queen of Spades
Shepard - King (More or less just to fit with Miranda being Queen) of Spades
TIM - King of Clubs (The other black suit)
Joker - Namesake
Jack - Jack of Spades
EDI - Queen of Hearts (To personify her "humanization")

I got nothing for the others.

[ThomGau]

CrutchCricket wrote...


Oh and to whoever brought up the MGS4 ending- could not agree with you more. In typical Hideo Kojima fashion it took hours of cutscenes and dialogue to actually end but it was damn satisfying when it did.

It was me CC

By the way, I'd like to know what's Mass Shift too.

[o Ventus]

CrutchCricket wrote...

o Ventus wrote...

CrutchCricket wrote...

Oh and one final off-topic question? What's Mass Shift?

Ignorance is bliss. Be thankful you don't yet know.

I'm pretty sure nothing short of Lucas leading an army of Jar-Jar Binks could ruin Mass Effect more than the RGB. And there's no reason to guard against spoilers anymore particularly since this isn't confirmed right? So someone feel free to PM me if you don't want to derail this.

Just check this out.

[Asakawa]

thanks for the support, guys =) I'm writing down all the suggestions!
hopefully i'll finish the artline for the Queen os Spades card tonight after work!

[enayasoul]

social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/355/index/10560313/1

Basically it's "fake" but we all know how these "spoilers" come out...

Modifié par enayasoul, 26 mars 2012 - 03:23 .

[flemm]

jtav wrote...

First one as new OP pic?

Well, it has my vote

[Sen4lifE]

She's a Cerberus cheerleader hell-bent on making sure the sadistic bastards succeed at putting every other race in the galaxy under their feet and has no problem to turning a cold shoulder to their cruel methods and is willing to make others suffer to get what she (actually, Cerberus) wants.

At first.

I think seeing Shepard as a leader, even if Shepard isn't much different, opened her eyes a little, as well as with working with a large team of aliens and then the actual reaper invasion.. it all opened her eyes a bit to the bigger picture. She's loyal, at least. Seems that if she hears and order she thinks is bad, she'll fight it but she'll do it. And the "get it done at all costs" attitude also means she will get it done just as efficiently as if she agreed with it. Someone I'd trust in my squad and in a fight, but not someone I would want to know personally. Especially not too personally. I just get the cold feeling that she's not above stabbing me in the back.

So.. do I like Miranda? The old Miranda, no.. but people can change.

tl;dr: When she was working for Cerberus, I would've killed her if I had the option.  But after she got off the Illusive Man's leash and started to go down her own path, I'd give her a second chance.

Modifié par Sen4lifE, 26 mars 2012 - 03:28 .

[Ieldra]

Asakawa wrote...
thanks for the insight, Ieldra! =)
I like your suggestions! And even though i'm not a fan of Jack, she earns a Jack card, totally and not totally pun-intended!

Dr. Chakwas as Queen of Diamonds is perfect!
What about Liara? Queen of Hearts? =x

edit - TIM is a villain, a respected yet feared leader, but also a wild card, from 'support' in ME2 to all that Cerberus has become in ME3 and all that talk you guys were having for the past few days. Mel gave the suggestion of having him as a Joker card. What do you think?

I think TIM is the perfect King of Spades. I don't think anybody else fits the slot better. I guess you could justify him as a Joker, too, but don't do it just to make Shepard King of Spades. He doesn't fit that slot. If you don't want TIM there, put Hackett in.

As for LIara, she has the problem that she overlaps with Miranda. I have no idea what to do with her (heh....just as in ME3. I want her to go away so that Miranda can take over). Jack could be Jack of Clubs.

[CrutchCricket]

o Ventus wrote...
Just check this out.

Good lord.... There's falling into a hole and digging yourself in deeper... and then there's gnawing your own limbs off and continuing to dig with your middle finger clenched between your teeth.

I wonder if that bit about Kasumi being modeled after someone's sister who brought them cookies is true...

All you artist types: Draw a picture of Shepard with green TRON lines riding a Reaper like a cowboy. This is the the supposed future of ME.

This is obviously a trolling. Either that or some people in Bioware are finally certifiable.

[Ieldra]

enayasoul wrote...
social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/355/index/10560313/1

Basically it's "fake" but we all know how these "spoilers" come out...

Priestly said it was false. I tend to believe him. Not that this will deter the conspiracy theorists, for whom denial is always confirmation.

[o Ventus]

"No problem turning a cold shoulder to their cruel methods"?

There's no indication she had any knowledge of their "cruel" experiments (Teltin, Overlord). In fact, she outright states that Teltin had all but officially gone rogue. She tells you about the rachni drones, thorian creepers, and husks, but those are all understandable experiments, if the methods are ambiguous.

Modifié par o Ventus, 26 mars 2012 - 03:31 .

[Asakawa]

[quote]Ieldra2 wrote...

I think TIM is the perfect King of Spades. I don't think anybody else fits the slot better. I guess you could justify him as a Joker, too, but don't do it just to make Shepard King of Spades. He doesn't fit that slot. If you don't want TIM there, put Hackett in.

nope, not for Shepard though. I'm just somewhat usure about TIM as King of Spades. Can't figure out how to explain right now.

[quote]Ieldra2 wrote...
As for LIara, she has the problem that she overlaps with Miranda. I have no idea what to do with her (heh....just as in ME3. I want her to go away so that Miranda can take over). Jack could be Jack of Clubs.
[/quote]

Yeah, i so understand the feeling. But she's very interesting in Lair of the Shadow Broker. I'm trying not to let my feelings over ME3 overcome what I think of all characters and how to apply them in this card deck.

i guess we can get all the suggestions and then later make a poll?

[CrutchCricket]

I still think Shepard works better as an ace (of spades). Don't have strong feelings about the rest, but I rather like Joker and Kasumi as Jokers.

[Vertigo_1]

Well don't forget Dark Horse made a card set. Just posting it to help you Rach:

Modifié par Vertigo_1, 26 mars 2012 - 03:48 .

[Dr. Doctor]

Ieldra2 wrote...

I want the current ending choices to stay. But I want explanations of why "the problem" is inevitable, a fourth option and an opportunity to challenge the starchild. And epilogue scenes where people are re-building. And a description of the Synthesis that makes some f******* sense, damn it. 

I really wish they left the Reapers purpose ambiguous. Leave them as these godlike intelligences that believe that they impose order upon a universe which supports a state of entropy. Mass Effect, and ME3 especially focuses on the theme of free will versus control.

-Miranda for instance is fiercly protective of her freedom to choose her own path in life, yet was willing to destroy Shepard's free will in the name of caution through the use of the control chip.

-Cerberus is founded on the idea that humanity should be able to create its own future without being told what to do by groups such as the Council.

-Legion and the Geth seek to create a future of their choosing, yet are willing sacrifice their free will for the safety of their species by allying with the Reapers.

-The Salarian STG  utilizes other species and science to ensure that their way of life can continue, yet at the same time they uplifted the Krogan, and introduced the Genophage thus preventing the race from developing a civilization by themselves.

The Reapers are the ultimate expression of a controlling entity. They deem organic and synthetic life to be too unstable to be allowed to evolve on their own. They build the relays and the Citadel to direct the course of technological and societal development, they use indoctrination to bend others to their control and create abominations like the Husks to serve their own purpose. All of this is in order to "save" all potential organic life from destroying themselves.

Shepard is ideally fighting for the ability for all life to be able to have a future that isn't dictated to them.

[jtav]

I just want to keep Synthesis an fix the holes. I can patch the end from there myself.

[o Ventus]

Dr. Doctor wrote...

Ieldra2 wrote...

I want the current ending choices to stay. But I want explanations of why "the problem" is inevitable, a fourth option and an opportunity to challenge the starchild. And epilogue scenes where people are re-building. And a description of the Synthesis that makes some f******* sense, damn it. 

I really wish they left the Reapers purpose ambiguous. Leave them as these godlike intelligences that believe that they impose order upon a universe which supports a state of entropy. Mass Effect, and ME3 especially focuses on the theme of free will versus control.

-Miranda for instance is fiercly protective of her freedom to choose her own path in life, yet was willing to destroy Shepard's free will in the name of caution through the use of the control chip.

-Cerberus is founded on the idea that humanity should be able to create its own future without being told what to do by groups such as the Council.

-Legion and the Geth seek to create a future of their choosing, yet are willing sacrifice their free will for the safety of their species by allying with the Reapers.

-The Salarian STG  utilizes other species and science to ensure that their way of life can continue, yet at the same time they uplifted the Krogan, and introduced the Genophage thus preventing the race from developing a civilization by themselves.

The Reapers are the ultimate expression of a controlling entity. They deem organic and synthetic life to be too unstable to be allowed to evolve on their own. They build the relays and the Citadel to direct the course of technological and societal development, they use indoctrination to bend others to their control and create abominations like the Husks to serve their own purpose. All of this is in order to "save" all potential organic life from destroying themselves.

Shepard is ideally fighting for the ability for all life to be able to have a future that isn't dictated to them.

Agreed. StarKid can ****** off.

[shepskisaac]

Wish there was more Miri in the game :/ Although she has quite a few conversations before her mission, the fact that they're so spaced out and that she only has 1 mission focused on her makes her appearance have less "punch" than Mordin or Legion's for example :/ She really should've been a squadmate considering how important Cerberus is in ME3

[ThomGau]

I don't like this bloody kid either.

I loved it when you talked to Sovereign in ME1, probably one the best moment of the trilogy. It seemed immensely greater than us, frightening, it was mind blowing.
Now knowing it was just a mere tool used to serve a tautological purpose ... that's really a downer.

I guess a transcendant entity is the easy way to introduce us the three choices thus the StarChild was created.

Modifié par ThomGau, 26 mars 2012 - 04:08 .

[Ieldra]

@Asakawa:
From a detached pov, I could tell you what should probably be done with Liara. But I'll only tell you if you promise you won't do it.