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[Nightwriter]

That's what I tho--

*gets distracted by Skullheart's avatar*

[darthnick427]

Just thought I should tell you guys I totally support getting you all DLC content with more Miranda and other ME2 exclusive romances. I romanced Liara but after seeing what you guys got in comparison to the romance I got, that's just ridiculous how much they sidelined your romances.

[Skullheart]

Well, the difference betwen a romanced and unromanced Miranda ara like seven lines of dialogue, and one more chance for her to die. And a like a 12 seconds "sex scene."

I'm far from pleased with the romance. And she didn't have any closure with her past with Cerberus (the most iriitating thing).

[Nightwriter]

darthnick427 wrote...

Just thought I should tell you guys I totally support getting you all DLC content with more Miranda and other ME2 exclusive romances. I romanced Liara but after seeing what you guys got in comparison to the romance I got, that's just ridiculous how much they sidelined your romances.

You care. You really care.

[kookie28]

Whether it's a bug or not, surely it wouldn't take an entire team a whole day to fix. I mean, seriously. I'm on Xbox so I can't fix it myself.

[ThomGau]

Nightwriter wrote...

*gets distracted by Skullheart's avatar*

You too ?

Skullheart wrote...

Well, the difference betwen a romanced
and unromanced Miranda ara like seven lines of dialogue, and one more
chance for her to die. And a like a 12 seconds "sex scene."

I'm
far from pleased with the romance. And she didn't have any closure with
her past with Cerberus (the most iriitating thing).

In my opinion, the romance content is good but there's definitely not enough of this, just like Miranda's screentime in general.
Sometimes I think there's a lack of really loving moment. I mean, for example, the first time Shepard meets her on the Citadel they haven't seen each other for six months or so, I think he wouldn't wait to grab her and kiss her.
Also, at Sanctuary I was expecting something like this :
M- "I know ... bastard"
S- " Would you kiss that bastard before you leave ?"
...

The sex scene seems to be a control damage afterthought, remember how Shepard got c***blocked in the leaked script by an unknown person? -"Seems like you two are having fun".

Agreed, the lack of closure with her past is so irritating. A new player to the series would barely know she was one of the most important operative among Cerberus.
Also, they decided to choose the easy way to write Miranda and put emphasis on her family issues, yet there's not even real closure in this either. Where is the confrontation with Henry we all expected  <_

Modifié par ThomGau, 29 mars 2012 - 09:42 .

[Ieldra]

Nightwriter wrote...
How do you know it's a bug? Them only highlighting Liara and the VS (if romanced) kind of follows the pattern of character attention BioWare took in ME3. And I've heard no one has found alternate images of the other LIs in the game files?

It may not technically be a bug, but Shepard not thinking of their LI in their last moments? If it isn't a game bug, it's a storytelling bug. A major one.

As for fixing it, two players with moderate experience in modding fixed it. Can't be that hard to put a condition ("romance flag for X") on the video shown.

And IF it was deliberate, then it was insulting.

Modifié par Ieldra2, 29 mars 2012 - 10:45 .

[cg8900]

ThomGau wrote...

Nightwriter wrote...

*gets distracted by Skullheart's avatar*

You too ?

tell me about it, whenever I'm reading the posts, I always end up staring at it

Modifié par cg8900, 29 mars 2012 - 11:50 .

[jtav]

Brave New World has been updated.

[flemm]

Nightwriter wrote...
But ME3 is the last game in the series. The end. If they don't give us satisfying content (and closure) here, we'll never get it. Ever. And yet they so totally, completely skimped on ME2 LI content. At the end. The final stretch. When I'm looking for satisfying romance content more than ever. Because I'll never be able to get it again.

Yes, that is how I feel and what bugs me the most.

I'm not going to spend time being angry about it, just because that's a waste of energy, but I am going to spend some time asking for better content. If we get it, great, if not, then so be it. But it can't hurt.

ThomGau wrote...

Nightwriter wrote...

*gets distracted by Skullheart's avatar*

You too ?

Yeah, me three

Modifié par flemm, 29 mars 2012 - 12:47 .

[CrutchCricket]

ThomGau wrote...
In my opinion, the romance content is good but there's definitely not enough of this, just like Miranda's screentime in general.
Sometimes I think there's a lack of really loving moment. I mean, for example, the first time Shepard meets her on the Citadel they haven't seen each other for six months or so, I think he wouldn't wait to grab her and kiss her.
Also, at Sanctuary I was expecting something like this :
M- "I know ... bastard"
S- " Would you kiss that bastard before you leave ?"
...

Good lord yes. I mean technically you need to still give people the choice of backing out (the jerks:crying:) but... go go gadget paragon interrupt!

Miranda: What about me, Shepard? Am I in your-
*Shepard grabs her and kisses her passionately.
Miranda (coming up for air): Well, that answers that question.

[Ieldra]

jtav wrote...
Brave New World has been updated.

You just had to put Liara in, did you?

Otherwise nice, like a setup for what is to come. Oh, Miranda, old habits die hard - I like how you changed the sentence from the excerpt. And she does deserve more than a year, silly girl. As for Matt - seeing Miranda and not being able to touch her.....torture. I'm wondering how this will end, btw. At some point, Shepard must get out of human history. Probably together with Miranda. Are you still planning to write that epilogue with the boy you mentioned in a PM?

[ThomGau]

CrutchCricket wrote...

technically you need to still give people the choice of backing out (the jerks:crying:) but... go go gadget paragon interrupt!

Miranda: What about me, Shepard? Am I in your-
*Shepard grabs her and kisses her passionately.
Miranda (coming up for air): Well, that answers that question.

Agreed, you still need to have the choice but an optional P/R interupt in case you romanced her would have been nice. For example at the moment you described or even at the beginning of the conversation :

M- Shepard, it's so good to finally see y-
*Shepard grabs her and kisses her passionately
S- You too Miranda
If you still manage to pull the "...I'll always want you in my life" out of your hat afterwards, it'd be awesome.

Modifié par ThomGau, 29 mars 2012 - 03:01 .

[flemm]

ThomGau wrote...

Agreed, you still need to have the choice but an optional P/R interupt in case you romanced her would have been nice. For example at the moment you described or even at the beginning of the conversation :

I like the first dialogue for the most part, but an option like this would have been great, no doubt.

Modifié par flemm, 29 mars 2012 - 03:08 .

[ProfessionalNoob]

Herp Derp

[Asakawa]

And here's me talking bout that Mass Effect deck again =p
i started a poll to decide who will be Queen of Clubs (http://social.biowar...3&poll_id=30891) .I'm surprised, I though many people would vote for Ashley.

I'm going to a work travel today, so i'll only post new drawings monday =( but i've made some progress in the Queen of Spac, i mean, Spades card

[CrutchCricket]

Asakawa wrote...

And here's me talking bout that Mass Effect deck again =p
i started a poll to decide who will be Queen of Clubs (http://social.biowar...3&poll_id=30891) .I'm surprised, I though many people would vote for Ashley.

I'm going to a work travel today, so i'll only post new drawings monday =( but i've made some progress in the Queen of Spac, i mean, Spades card

I wish I could view the polls without voting though I suppose that might skew my responses:happy:.

Anyway in the official deck Kasumi's the Queen of Clubs, based on the pics that were posted here a few pages back. Not that I agree with that myself (still think she should be a joker).

I did have a question for you though. There's only 3 face cards per suit, 4 if you count aces. So 12 total. Are you planning on limiting these to squadmates? Because otherwise deciding who gets what might be more tricky as face cards are seen as more prominent and then you run into the question of why is random support npc getting a face card while favorite squaddie isn't. As it is not every squadmate will get a card anyway as there are 19 in total. What are your thoughts on this?

[Asakawa]

Well Crutch, I thought for a start to work on a 'regular' deck, so 12 faces counting with aces.

I had to vote too =( I didn't want to vote coz well, i wouldn't have to do a poll if I knew what to do, right? HAHAH!

Yeah, I saw the official deck but some characters seem kinda off as some cards, so I'm totally open for doing something different, hence why i started the poll =)

if it all works well (and if I work well, haha! 24 drawings if you count that that's actually 2 drawings per card!) and if I'm satisfied with the results, I might add the other cards and open a slot for more squaddies. But i'm not sure, I'll stick to 12 for now, hence why it's even more complicated as you said yourself!

[CrutchCricket]

Yes but you aren't limiting yourself to squadmates for the face cards? That was my first question. Personally I see Aria as a fitting Queen of Clubs for obvious reasons. But if you did do that someone might ask why she (a support character) gets a face card as opposed to a squadmate.

Obviously you decide what to do but just wondering if you've considered that in your selection.

[wright1978]

CrutchCricket wrote...

ThomGau wrote...
In my opinion, the romance content is good but there's definitely not enough of this, just like Miranda's screentime in general.
Sometimes I think there's a lack of really loving moment. I mean, for example, the first time Shepard meets her on the Citadel they haven't seen each other for six months or so, I think he wouldn't wait to grab her and kiss her.
Also, at Sanctuary I was expecting something like this :
M- "I know ... bastard"
S- " Would you kiss that bastard before you leave ?"
...

Good lord yes. I mean technically you need to still give people the choice of backing out (the jerks:crying:) but... go go gadget paragon interrupt!

Miranda: What about me, Shepard? Am I in your-
*Shepard grabs her and kisses her passionately.
Miranda (coming up for air): Well, that answers that question.

Dammit Bioware i want that interrupt!

[flemm]

Miranda in ME3 needs some DLC

1) More missions with Miranda
We think Shepard should be able to ask Miranda to join up after her mission on Sanctuary, and that she should help lead the assault on TIM's base. Shepard and Miranda should finish this together.

Another possibility would be Shepard fighting alongside Miranda to take out Cerberus installations either before or after Sanctuary. We want to see Miranda working as a leader and operative.

2) Romance
We would like to have a fully-implemented romance scene, and to be able to invite Miranda aboard the Normandy. This last part is important, as an expression of trust and support. Shepard and Miranda should share some "pillow talk" after the romance scene.

The final flashback should recognize Miranda, if romanced, along with all the other romances that are currently excluded.

3) Endgame
We would like to see Miranda make an impact on the endgame in terms of plot options or war assets. Miranda's survival should matter.

4) Closure
We feel there are significant character traits and story arcs related to Miranda that don't receive sufficient attention in ME3.

The lack of any dialogue addressing Miranda's view of TIM's new, more extreme tactics feels like a glaring omission, given her previous allegiance to the organisation. We would like to hear Miranda talk about her work with Cerberus in the past, how she feels about it now, and what her goals are moving forward.

We would like to see her embrace her origins and outgrow her insecurity about her genetic enhancements following the confrontation with her father.

5) Reunion
Shepard and Miranda should be reunited onscreen after the game's ending in any scenario where both characters survive.

Modifié par flemm, 14 avril 2012 - 04:55 .

[flemm]

The above is what we've come up with, after some revising, etc. in PMs, to forward to the devs regarding additional content we would like to see for Miranda.

Basically we tried to include everything that people have been mentioning, or as much as possible, while still keeping it rather short and to the point.

[jtav]

I think I'm going to add that to the OP if no one minds.

[flemm]

jtav wrote...

I think I'm going to add that to the OP if no one minds.

Sure, I don't think anyone would mind.

[jtav]

Done.