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[Asakawa]

CrutchCricket wrote...

Yes but you aren't limiting yourself to squadmates for the face cards? That was my first question. Personally I see Aria as a fitting Queen of Clubs for obvious reasons. But if you did do that someone might ask why she (a support character) gets a face card as opposed to a squadmate.

Obviously you decide what to do but just wondering if you've considered that in your selection.

Sorry if I didn't explain it well, but yeah, I am limiting. But at the same time I'm not, since i'm considering characters like Aria, Dr. Chakwas.

I don't want to simply add main characters, I want characters that match. And also characters who I some sort of like to draw (dunno bout you guys, but i definitely do drawings better if i like the characters that i'm drawing, haha!).

But yeah, all of all, it is a limitation.

I don't have a rule for it, that's why i'm posting the Polls, talking to you guys and such.

[flemm]

I do think Aria works for the Queen of Clubs. So, that's my vote as well ;-)

[ThomGau]

Thank you flemm this greatly explains what we need and want for Miranda

Modifié par ThomGau, 29 mars 2012 - 11:09 .

[Ieldra]

Just finished Sanctuary with my femShep. Without the context of the earlier encounters - that she's mainly here to save Oriana - the mission and Miranda's off-screen activity witnessed through the logs works rather well. You get the impression that Miranda is impressive. It only breaks down at the encounter with Henry where there's not enough dialogue. I also like the friendship that develops between femShep and Miranda.

[Asakawa]

Add that to the poll, Flemm =) I'm quite satisfied that Aria is winning, it's a good fit!

And sorry for going OT, but well, it has all to do with that Miranda drawing XD

by the way, anyone has a good shot of a class F Fighter? *points to avatar*

[Dinowarrior18]

I agree Miranda needed more screen time than what she got in Mass Effect 3. Bioware please release a Miranda DLC.

[flemm]

Asakawa wrote...

Add that to the poll, Flemm =) I'm quite satisfied that Aria is winning, it's a good fit!

Done

Can't wait to see the result.

[enayasoul]

flemm wrote...

Miranda in ME3 needs some DLC

1) More missions with Miranda
We think Shepard should be able to ask Miranda to join up after her mission on Sanctuary, and that she should help lead the assault on TIM's base. Shepard and Miranda should finish this together.

Another possibility would be Shepard fighting alongside Miranda to take out Cerberus installations either before or after Sanctuary. We want to see Miranda working as a leader and operative.

2) Romance
We would like to have a fully-implemented romance scene, and to be able to invite Miranda aboard the Normandy. This last part is important, as an expression of trust and support. Shepard and Miranda should share some "pillow talk" after the romance scene.

The final flashback should recognize Miranda, if romanced, along with all the other romances that are currently excluded.

3) Endgame
We would like to see Miranda make an impact on the endgame in terms of plot options or war assets. Miranda's survival should matter.

4) Closure
We feel there are significant character traits and story arcs related to Miranda that don't receive sufficient attention in ME3.

The lack of any dialogue addressing Miranda's view of TIM's new, more extreme tactics feels like a glaring omission, given her previous allegiance to the organisation. We would like to hear Miranda talk about her work with Cerberus in the past, how she feels about it now, and what her goals are moving forward.

We would like to see her embrace her origins and outgrow her insecurity about her genetic enhancements following the confrontation with her father.

This is GREAT, Flemm!   Yes, please do this BioWare. Pretty please.  :innocent:

[MisterJB]

Asakawa wrote...
by the way, anyone has a good shot of a class F Fighter? *points to avatar*

I wholeheartedly approve.

[flemm]

Man, I would love to see Miranda leading a squadron of these lol, or something like them.

[Lawrence0294]

flemm wrote...

Miranda in ME3 needs some DLC

1) More missions with Miranda
We think Shepard should be able to ask Miranda to join up after her mission on Sanctuary, and that she should help lead the assault on TIM's base. Shepard and Miranda should finish this together.

Another possibility would be Shepard fighting alongside Miranda to take out Cerberus installations either before or after Sanctuary. We want to see Miranda working as a leader and operative.

2) Romance
We would like to have a fully-implemented romance scene, and to be able to invite Miranda aboard the Normandy. This last part is important, as an expression of trust and support. Shepard and Miranda should share some "pillow talk" after the romance scene.

The final flashback should recognize Miranda, if romanced, along with all the other romances that are currently excluded.

3) Endgame
We would like to see Miranda make an impact on the endgame in terms of plot options or war assets. Miranda's survival should matter.

4) Closure
We feel there are significant character traits and story arcs related to Miranda that don't receive sufficient attention in ME3.

The lack of any dialogue addressing Miranda's view of TIM's new, more extreme tactics feels like a glaring omission, given her previous allegiance to the organisation. We would like to hear Miranda talk about her work with Cerberus in the past, how she feels about it now, and what her goals are moving forward.

We would like to see her embrace her origins and outgrow her insecurity about her genetic enhancements following the confrontation with her father.

This, 100000 times :innocent:. how do you guys think we could show this in a manner that bioware seriously recognize it ?

[flemm]

kratos0294 wrote...

This, 100000 times :innocent:. how do you guys think we could show this in a manner that bioware seriously recognize it ?

Well, we are going to be linking the post to devs on twitter. You are welcome to do the same, along with a friendly message of your own.

I think that is our best bet, other than here on the forums. Though suggestions are welcome, of course.

[Nightwriter]

ThomGau wrote...

Sometimes I think there's a lack of really loving moment. I mean, for example, the first time Shepard meets her on the Citadel they haven't seen each other for six months or so, I think he wouldn't wait to grab her and kiss her.
Also, at Sanctuary I was expecting something like this :
M- "I know ... bastard"
S- " Would you kiss that bastard before you leave ?"
...

This is exactly how I felt.

There's even a moment when they kinda sorta embrace -- well, at least Miranda touches Shepard's chest -- and I thought for sure a kiss was going to happen.

[CheekyWeazel]

*walks into the Thread and reads some great postings. felt all fluffy and leaves a little image she likes before vanishing to the captain cabin*

[Nightwriter]

flemm wrote...

kratos0294 wrote...

This, 100000 times :innocent:. how do you guys think we could show this in a manner that bioware seriously recognize it ?

Well, we are going to be linking the post to devs on twitter. You are welcome to do the same, along with a friendly message of your own.

I think that is our best bet, other than here on the forums. Though suggestions are welcome, of course.

Honestly, guys... do you really see them giving us more content? Ever? And even if they did, could we ever realistically expect it to be as satisfying as what flemm describes?

I mean, I'd love to hope, but I have... thoughts. And they really get in the way of the whole hope thing.

I doubt Yvonne Strahovski is easy to get ahold of for followup work. I mean, we could hope that they put DLC work in every VA's contract, but judging by Mass Effect's DLC history, they don't do that. That seems to be something only the DA team does. If she did come back, I'd imagine it would only be to record a few quick lines.

And if they do by some wild stroke manage to divert their attention away from the backlash over the endings long enough to notice how thoroughly they screwed over the ME2 LIs and try to do something about it... they will need to devote their attention to every love interest they shorted. They'll need to get Strahovski, Taylor, and Farley back. They'll need to make all the content equally good if they want to salvage any vestige of fairness. That's a heavy endeavor.

And to repair the damage they did, they'd need to almost rewrite a lot of the game -- allow Thane fans more moments with him before his death, give us the ability to experience the Cerberus subplot with Miranda, allow Jack and Miranda fans to have a before-the-final-battle scene like the VS and Liara get, etc. DLC is always additive; it does not rewrite existing content.

They'll never be able to make Jacob fans happy short of completely rewriting his arc and nixing Brynn, which is obviously not going to happen. Perhaps the most they could do is put in a renegade interrupt allowing femShep to punch Jacob and Brynn (which they really should have had the decency to include to begin with -- if you're going to screw them over, at least let them express their outrage). Then imagine how the Jacob fans will feel if the other ME2 LI-mancers do get reparative DLC and they're still stuck with nothing. That isn't exactly fair.

Modifié par Nightwriter, 29 mars 2012 - 10:11 .

[cg8900]

I love the ideas for the dlc, please bioware make it happen!!

one can always hope

Modifié par cg8900, 29 mars 2012 - 10:13 .

[flemm]

Nightwriter wrote...
Honestly, guys... do you really see them giving us more content? Ever? And even if they did, could we ever realistically expect it to be as satisfying as what flemm describes?

I don't know. I just don't think it really matters. We want it, so it's worth asking.

Modifié par flemm, 29 mars 2012 - 10:15 .

[MisterJB]

Nightwriter wrote...
Honestly, guys... do you really see them giving us more content? Ever? And even if they did, could we ever realistically expect it to be as satisfying as what flemm describes?

I mean, I'd love to hope, but I have... thoughts. And they really get in the way of the whole hope thing.

Of course not. but we're still going to do it. What do we have to lose?

[ThomGau]

I really want to hope for the best and the release of  good DLCs that I'll gadly pay for and enjoy a lot.
However, I know it probably sounds harsh but as it is now this game is broken to me, a simple and regular DLC like we are used to won't fix that.
There are very good moments in this game but there is also a cruel lack of continuity (ME2 cast and LIs among other things) and coherency.
Sometimes I feel like they really nailed some parts of the game (like Tutchanka and curing the Genophage) and sometimes I feel like it's a half-done amateur job.

Modifié par ThomGau, 29 mars 2012 - 10:30 .

[CrutchCricket]

Endings fixed first. Then the other stuff might come.

[flemm]

MisterJB wrote...

Of course not. but we're still going to do it. What do we have to lose?

Nothing. Also, it's a wish list. It's not really made up with the idea in mind that all of the above will be implemented without fail 

Moreso just that we should say what we want. And then let the chips fall where they may.

ThomGau wrote...

Sometimes I feel like they really nailed some part of the game (like Tutchanka and curing the Genophage) and sometimes I feel like it's a half-done amateur job.

Well, clearly the game was rushed and on a very tight schedule. Also, it's clear that Sanctuary is right about where the squeeze really hit.

To me this is another argument for speaking up now about additional content. Because it's plausible (in fact likely) that Miranda's content was affected by the strict line budget and other things.

Modifié par flemm, 29 mars 2012 - 10:32 .

[Totally Not Swaggacide]

So what exactly did Miranda do in the final battle?

[ThomGau]

Indeed CC, fixing problems one at a time is probably the best way to do it.

But yeah, this wishlist is definitely a good thing for us and for Bioware, it is friendly and helpful

[III Metal Gear III]

Reposting what I said in another thread.

One of the things I like about a Shepard and Miranda relationship, would be some of the tension people would have with her. With all Cerberus is doing in ME 3, people wouldn't exactly like someone whos ex-Cerberus. Which is another reason why Miranda should have been a squadmember. Just think about some of the things people would say to you about Miranda. You would have to say how she isn't with them anymore, shes redeemed herself, she never knew Cerberus would betray humanity, etc. But, Bioware gave the shaft to all characters introduced in ME 2 (except EDI). Alas, no Miranda squadmember. Also, Miranda is an all around character. Intelligence, good looks, good fighter, bit of a questionable past (Cerberus ties), ends justify the means type of person (but paragon Shepard would change her a little bit on that).

My 2 cents anyways.

[Dr. Doctor]

Totally Not Swaggacide wrote...

So what exactly did Miranda do in the final battle?

Flew air support for Hammer? Coordinated the battle in high Earth orbit from the deck of the Elberus? Lead her commando squad into battle? You decide.

Also, Dark Horse's next series of ME comics focuses on the untold stories of all of the squadmates. They're starting with Vega, but I'm looking forward to see what happens.