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[Melra]

Oh gawd, the whole site is just too busy making demands rather than trying to enjoy what they already have....

[flemm]

TheHugonaut wrote...

What do you all think of organizing a Facebook page and uniform petition, beyond the tweets? We should make a push for additional Miranda content in DLC (ending or otherwise) that's released. I think the original list of comments/requests is really good. 

If I've missed such an attempt, apologies - new to this thread! 

Well, the tweets are definitely a good start, and I think everyone who is interested should tweet, the more the merrier.

But we are talking about doing some other things as well, yes. One thing Vertigo brought up, and I think it is a great idea, is getting a package of Miranda art + fanfic together to mail to Bioware with a letter.

So I think that soon we will start getting something like that together.

Modifié par flemm, 01 avril 2012 - 08:03 .

[o Ventus]

TheHugonaut wrote...

What do you all think of organizing a Facebook page and uniform petition, beyond the tweets? We should make a push for additional Miranda content in DLC (ending or otherwise) that's released. I think the original list of comments/requests is really good. 

If I've missed such an attempt, apologies - new to this thread! 

Definitely a good idea in my opinion. Like flemm said, we could gather fanart, fics, and compile our list of reasons why Miranda deserves better content, all in one package.

[Skullheart]

It's hard to enjoy a game filled with dissapoitments, and all the false statements the devs made before the release just make it worse.

[o Ventus]

Melrache wrote...

Oh gawd, the whole site is just too busy making demands rather than trying to enjoy what they already have....

I find it difficult to enjoy 3 functionally identical, equally ****ty endings, or the omission of 50% of my favorite character, or pre-release lies and unfulfilled promises.

[Lawrence0294]

flemm wrote...

TheHugonaut wrote...

What do you all think of organizing a Facebook page and uniform petition, beyond the tweets? We should make a push for additional Miranda content in DLC (ending or otherwise) that's released. I think the original list of comments/requests is really good. 

If I've missed such an attempt, apologies - new to this thread! 

Well, the tweets are definitely a good start, and I think everyone who is interested should tweet, the more the merrier.

But we are talking about doing some other things as well, yes. One thing Vertigo brought up, and I think it is a great idea, is getting a package of Miranda art + fanfic together to mail to Bioware with a letter.

So I think that soon we will start getting something like that together.

Men that sounds great ! 

[flemm]

kratos0294 wrote...
Men that sounds great ! 

Yeah, it should be cool. It will take a little coordinating with fanfic writers and the Miranda group on deviant art and so on, but really all the fic and art and stuff is out there already, being written and created, etc.

So it's just a matter of framing it and putting it together. Which we will do

[TheHugonaut]

Rock on. I understand that in all likelihood we will get little (if anything) from Bioware - Miranda's storyline is probably set in stone - but little changes like a flashback at the end, different dialogue in the final goodbye, a scene together in a new ending, or Miranda as a squadmate for the final mission would be worth the effort.

[TheHugonaut]

Let alone a separate DLC involving her.

Hope springs eternal...!

[o Ventus]

TheHugonaut wrote...

Rock on. I understand that in all likelihood we will get little (if anything) from Bioware - Miranda's storyline is probably set in stone - but little changes like a flashback at the end, different dialogue in the final goodbye, a scene together in a new ending, or Miranda as a squadmate for the Cerberus HQ would be worth the effort.

Fixed.

Also, Miranda coming aboard the Normandy after Sanctuary. She is getting her injuries treated, anyway. Perfect opportunity for Cerberus closure and some cuddle time.

Modifié par o Ventus, 01 avril 2012 - 08:35 .

[TheHugonaut]

wholeheartedly endorse

[o Ventus]

TheHugonaut wrote...

wholeheartedly endorse

Something so simple and non-demanding, yet it was still given the middle finger.

[TheHugonaut]

[quote]flemm wrote...

Miranda in ME3 needs some DLC

1) More missions with Miranda
We think Shepard should be able to ask Miranda to join up after her mission on Sanctuary, and that she should help lead the assault on TIM's base. Shepard and Miranda should finish this together.

Another possibility would be Shepard fighting alongside Miranda to take out Cerberus installations either before or after Sanctuary. We want to see Miranda working as a leader and operative.

2) Romance
We would like to have a fully-implemented romance scene, and to be able to invite Miranda aboard the Normandy. This last part is important, as an expression of trust and support. Shepard and Miranda should share some "pillow talk" after the romance scene.

The final flashback should recognize Miranda, if romanced, along with all the other romances that are currently excluded.

3) Endgame
We would like to see Miranda make an impact on the endgame in terms of plot options or war assets. Miranda's survival should matter.

4) Closure
We feel there are significant character traits and story arcs related to Miranda that don't receive sufficient attention in ME3.

The lack of any dialogue addressing Miranda's view of TIM's new, more extreme tactics feels like a glaring omission, given her previous allegiance to the organisation. We would like to hear Miranda talk about her work with Cerberus in the past, how she feels about it now, and what her goals are moving forward.

We would like to see her embrace her origins and outgrow her insecurity about her genetic enhancements following the confrontation with her father.[/quote]

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Awesome, Flemm. This would be the ideal - but Ventus is also dead-on with the simple correction.

Modifié par TheHugonaut, 01 avril 2012 - 09:01 .

[o Ventus]

2) Romance
We would like to have a fully-implemented romance scene, and to be able to invite Miranda aboard the Normandy. This last part is important, as an expression of trust and support. Shepard and Miranda should share some "pillow talk" after the romance scene.

The final flashback should recognize Miranda, if romanced, along with all the other romances that are currently excluded.

Do want.

Especially for the flashback. I can't begin to describe how off-putting it is for Shepard to be thinking about Liara, while in love with Miranda.

[jtav]

I've been listening to the nightmare whispers and I really have to say that Strahovski outdid herself in this game. I could almost feel my heart break.

[Vertigo_1]

Skullheart wrote...

Thanks Vertigo and Yankee.

And this might be too much to ask, but can you do three different flashbacks?
To replace Joker, Anderson and Liara with three flashbacks of Miranda, I mean imagine this: the first flashback when Shepard wakes up on Lazarus station, the second when Miranda cries after talking to Oriana and the third the eye wink.

Will see what we can come up with, I know Yannkee is doing the tribute video right now so...

jtav wrote...

I'm holding out for a flashback with a ME3 clip.

I know I'd like to have an ME3 clip in there too.

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jtav wrote...

I've been listening to the nightmare
whispers and I really have to say that Strahovski outdid herself in this
game. I could almost feel my heart break.

What exactly does she say?  I did one run where she died on purpose (on Sanctuary) to see if I could hear her but I kept getting Thane calling my Male Shep 'Siha'

Modifié par Vertigo_1, 01 avril 2012 - 09:48 .

[ThomGau]

I'm curious to know what she says too. I'll search on Youtube.

Yvonne's great voice acting is definitely a satisfactory aspect of ME3 Miranda.

Modifié par ThomGau, 01 avril 2012 - 09:57 .

[o Ventus]

Was anyone else (Who read pre-release spoilers or was on NG+) a little disheartened after Miranda's final talk on Earth? Specifically, the "find me" bit?

[ThomGau]

I was Lemon but who wouldn't ?

You finally have a prequel of a resolution talk, about a possible happy future for them but you know you won't see it in the game and the promise from Shepard is even more disheartening in that regard.

Modifié par ThomGau, 01 avril 2012 - 10:05 .

[jtav]

Re: Nightmares. "Things I could never have" and "Finish this, you promise me" from ME3 and "I'm very good at just about anything I choose to do" and "I don't have what you do" from ME2. The ME2 stuff sounds like it might have been re-recorded.

[o Ventus]

ThomGau wrote...

I was Lemon but who wouldn't ?

You finally have a prequel of a resolution talk, about a possible happy future for them but you know you won't see it in the game and the promise from Shepard is even more disheartening in that regard.

Exactly my point. Even after beating ME3 6 or 7 times, when it comes time to speak with Miranda on Earth, I struggle a bit to continue on.

I digress. At the very least, I have a scenario planned out for Shepard slimly surviving the Destroy ending, with Miranda referencing the promise.

Modifié par o Ventus, 01 avril 2012 - 10:33 .

[Vertigo_1]

jtav wrote...

Re: Nightmares. "Things I could never have" and "Finish this, you promise me" from ME3 and "I'm very good at just about anything I choose to do" and "I don't have what you do" from ME2. The ME2 stuff sounds like it might have been re-recorded.

Likely true, considering they did for Mordin's ME2 lines (it's the VA from ME3 not 2) and the Virmire death lines are not from ME1 (similar, but not 100% the same)

Modifié par Vertigo_1, 01 avril 2012 - 10:41 .

[flemm]

o Ventus wrote...

Exactly my point. Even after beating ME3 6 or 7 times, when it comes time to speak with Miranda on Earth, I struggle a bit to continue on.

Understandable, as it's the last thing in the game worth doing, pretty much

[ThomGau]

It's sad but true but I think you're right flemm
The last conversations with all the squadmates you fought beside and your LI is pretty much the only thing really emotional and worth doing at this point of the game. Then space magic happens.

Modifié par ThomGau, 01 avril 2012 - 11:10 .

[jtav]

I finally got around to listening to Leng's video log. Does anyone else get the sense that he hates her and vice versa. I also like that she's treated as a threat and he and TIM speak as if their work was what drew attention to the place, not Ori.