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"I'll always want you in my life." Miranda Lawson in Mass Effect 3


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Alessar1288 wrote...

flemm wrote...

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Not sure if I should insult the condescending tone of this post, or your intelligence...


Not warranted. Come on. There was nothing out of line about Alessar's post.


See thats the thing I wasn't being condescending whatsoever. And this is the major reason why I hate coming here.Some of you get all verbal about certain things and then go into personal attacks. All I pointed out was what I saw as flawed reasoning, but yes please attack my intelligence. I don't get why I can't point out my opinion that the lack or presence of certain content doesn't mean that there is a preference towards something, Not everything somebody types is out to be condescending or a verbal attack.


Getting mad on forums is so mainstream.......

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slow progress is slow. and a 4day business trip also doesn't help =p
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that looks great though Asakawa

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thanks =))) lets hope i can finish this this week, awfully busy lately. And if anyone would like to do a co-lab and work on the colors, please let me know!

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Asakawa wrote...

thanks =))) lets hope i can finish this this week, awfully busy lately. And if anyone would like to do a co-lab and work on the colors, please let me know!


Ha, I wish I could. But I'm afraid such things fall outside my narrow range of expertise Image IPB

Can't wait to see how it turns out!

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flemm wrote...


Ha, I wish I could. But I'm afraid such things fall outside my narrow range of expertise Image IPB

Can't wait to see how it turns out!


hehe the thought that counts ;)
and yep, Aria will be Queen of Clubs. I guess I'd better finish this one to start the other polls.

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Alessar1288 wrote...

flemm wrote...

o Ventus wrote...

Not sure if I should insult the condescending tone of this post, or your intelligence...


Not warranted. Come on. There was nothing out of line about Alessar's post.


See thats the thing I wasn't being condescending whatsoever. And this is the major reason why I hate coming here.Some of you get all verbal about certain things and then go into personal attacks. All I pointed out was what I saw as flawed reasoning, but yes please attack my intelligence. I don't get why I can't point out my opinion that the lack or presence of certain content doesn't mean that there is a preference towards something, Not everything somebody types is out to be condescending or a verbal attack.


Yeah, lets keep it civil folks.  Discussions are always welcome, you don't have to be a regular here to jump on in :wizard:

And remember: there are lurkers watching us...with their eyes! :P

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Asakawa wrote...

thanks =))) lets hope i can finish this this week, awfully busy lately. And if anyone would like to do a co-lab and work on the colors, please let me know!


And good job on the drawing Rach!  I'd help on the coloring but I don't have much experience with photoshop :pinched:

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Vertigo_1 wrote...
And remember: there are lurkers watching us...with their eyes! :P



OMG I will try to be more careful from now on Image IPB

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Would Miranda want us to fight each other?

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jtav wrote...

Oh, the paranoia? That's because I just don't trust the writers anymore. There's a mean-spirited streak to the series now, and it's become something of a pattern whenever BW returns to previously established characters. I don't want a Bastila or Aribeth redux.

They've shown they can give me good Miranda content. It seems like the only reason they wanted to kill her off is so they could be done with her. If they do more DLC, they'll have decided to not be done with her, so I don't think rekilling her is going to be their goal.

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Nightwriter wrote...

jtav wrote...

Oh, the paranoia? That's because I just don't trust the writers anymore. There's a mean-spirited streak to the series now, and it's become something of a pattern whenever BW returns to previously established characters. I don't want a Bastila or Aribeth redux.

They've shown they can give me good Miranda content. It seems like the only reason they wanted to kill her off is so they could be done with her. If they do more DLC, they'll have decided to not be done with her, so I don't think rekilling her is going to be their goal.


Bad News:  The new DLC is called "Happy Fun Time Miranda Death Generator!"

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MrNose wrote...

Bad News:  The new DLC is called "Happy Fun Time Miranda Death Generator!"


We already have that. It's called: "Chatting with jtav in the Miranda thread, especially when she is in a bad mood." Image IPB

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flemm wrote...
We already have that. It's called: "Chatting with jtav in the Miranda thread, especially when she is in a bad mood." Image IPB


Or chatting with anyone on the thread for that matter, it's like we're on The Stages of Grief: The Ride. The cycle has been repeated more times than you can fathom.

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Dr. Doctor wrote...

Or chatting with anyone on the thread for that matter, it's like we're on The Stages of Grief: The Ride. The cycle has been repeated more times than you can fathom.


True, it has already surpassed the scope of human understanding.

Only the starchild could enlighten us as to the true meaning of the cycle... oh no...

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Miranda anyone?

I wanted to make her hair standout a little more as I changed the lighting, but I lack the proper programs. However, I did manage to fix that annoying collar clipping, so I consider that an accomplishment. 

Those eyes...
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kaymarierose wrote...

Miranda anyone?

I wanted to make her hair standout a little more as I changed the lighting, but I lack the proper programs. However, I did manage to fix that annoying collar clipping, so I consider that an accomplishment. 

Those eyes...
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Jesus Christ on a stick that is awesome!

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kaymarierose wrote...
Miranda anyone?

YES!

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So beautiful. This gets me nostalgic for ME2.....when Miranda was present and it was still unknown how it all ends.

Damn you, Bioware.

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Looking at these images makes me realise how in ME3 Miri doesn't look as good - her hair is bad (but that could be said for a number of female NPC's (Excl. Ash) it's like she is wearing a wig ontop of her existing hair.

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jtav wrote...
Oh, the paranoia? That's because I just don't trust the writers anymore. There's a mean-spirited streak to the series now, and it's become something of a pattern whenever BW returns to previously established LI characters which are not Liara. I don't want a Bastila or Aribeth redux.

Fixed that for you.

I agree that there's a vibe of "we just want to be done with them", but IMO the real problem in ME3 is that they pushed their pseudo-canon to an unprecedented degree with the roles of Anderson as the mentor (which he wasn't for me, at least not in a way that made his calling Shepard "child" appropriate) and Liara as The LI, plus the ending which feels like there's just one.

The trust issue is important though. ME3's ending is so bad that the thought of new content which affects the ending fills me with as much trepidation as anticipation. For however bad things are, they could be worse, and I can't trust the writers anymore to not make it so. Yes, it would be stupid to do so, but making an emotionally unsatisfying ending to an emotionally engaging story is stupid as well, and look what happened. 

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flemm wrote...

Vertigo_1 wrote...
And remember: there are lurkers watching us...with their eyes! :P



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Somehow i feel this was ment for me :D

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Breakdown Boy wrote...

Looking at these images makes me realise how in ME3 Miri doesn't look as good - her hair is bad (but that could be said for a number of female NPC's (Excl. Ash) it's like she is wearing a wig ontop of her existing hair.


The ME2 hair looked like it was a weird plastic wig that was glued on top of her head. Not always, but quite often, I much prefer the ME3 look.

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Ieldra2 wrote...

I agree that there's a vibe of "we just want to be done with them", but IMO the real problem in ME3 is that they pushed their pseudo-canon to an unprecedented degree with the roles of Anderson as the mentor (which he wasn't for me, at least not in a way that made his calling Shepard "child" appropriate) and Liara as The LI, plus the ending which feels like there's just one.

The trust issue is important though. ME3's ending is so bad that the thought of new content which affects the ending fills me with as much trepidation as anticipation. For however bad things are, they could be worse, and I can't trust the writers anymore to not make it so. Yes, it would be stupid to do so, but making an emotionally unsatisfying ending to an emotionally engaging story is stupid as well, and look what happened. 


Agreed Ieldra.

There seems to be a will to "get this over with quickly and move on to something more interesting" but not to the point that they'd purposely f*ck a character up, though they somewhat "succeeded".
These canon choices forced on us are so annoying, so much for role-playing. Moreover all of these auto-dialogues and the disappearance of neutral options won't help. However, the new Reputation System can counter-balance this but still.

Regarding the ending DLC, I'm more suspicious than relieved or excited about it, the damage is done. I still could be surprised though.

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hot_heart wrote...

Maybe this is a bit off-topic, but I noticed this piece (the first half anyway) during the romance 'culmination' scene and it really struck a chord (lolpun) with me. It is one of the most beautiful, evocative pieces of music I've ever heard. I know the second half features in 'I Was Lost Without You' but I don't think the sparse piano part does. I'm sure it all probably appears for most romances but I felt it suited the Miranda one perfectly (and it's paced perfectly with that bit of the scene).

Also, the only thing I really liked about the ending was the 'An End Once And For All' track. Although, I'm not a fan of the ending (because of that bit of the cutscene) and I always half-expect it to go into that last chord of The Beatles' 'A Day In The Life'. :P


ME3 has a great OST. "An End Once and for All" and the Romance theme are splendid. I may start to learn how to play them.
I prefer the ME2 Soundtrack though, "Suicide Mission", "Reflections" and "Normandy Reborn" always send chills down my spine.

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jtav wrote...
A teaser: (yes, I haven't forgotten this story)

The skeleton was as black as charred flesh. Wires poked out of the chest and eye sockets. The top part of the skull was completely missing. Matt looked down at it with poorly-concealed disgust. "I'm going to be stuck in that?"

“It’s only the frame. The quantum computer isn't even in yet. “

Matt’s lips thinned. Miranda shot him a sideways glance. She found herself looking at him often these days, and not out of anything as pedestrian as desire. He was a marvel. The muscles of his jaw appeared to tense, his chest appear to rise and fall at regular intervals, all without the muscles that would work by instinct in an organic body. What sort of computer had the power to regulate and replicate the thousands of involuntary functions of the human body? It may Miranda's head spin just thinking about it.

"I was just…I was hoping for something a bit more, er, human."

She smiled at him, placating. "You looked much worse the first time around. Wilson vomited, and I didn't sleep soundly for a week. And you came out all right. Synthetic skin is virtually indistinguishable from the genuine article except under a microscope. No one was able to tell Eva was a synthetic until after the shuttle crash. You’ll be outwardly indistinguishable from what you were before."

But Matt kept staring at the metal skeleton, his gaze managing somehow to be both distant and pained. Miranda’s heart sank. After the death of his parents, Matt had fought a long, grueling war of attrition with depression that had ended in stalemate. Time and therapy had seen him through the worst of it, but sometimes the ghosts still returned to haunt him. And Miranda was never quite a match for ghosts. No matter how many books she read or psychologists she consulted, her talents tended more towards manipulating a mark than helping a lover.

"EDI," he said softly. "I told her she was a person. And she was. Almost like having another little sister. But she wasn't human. She was a brand-new species. The only one of her kind. And I’ll be the only one of mine, as different from you as an asari is from a salarian.” He looked at her as if she was supposed to have the answer. "How am I supposed to deal with that?”

And perhaps she did have the answer. She was, after all, a construct in her own way, designed according to a template set down by another human being. Luddites and religious fundamentalists had called her an abomination, a perversion of the natural order of reproduction. Miranda Lawson looked human, felt human, but she wasn't and never would be anything other than a latter-day Frankenstein's monster. Henry had been more than happy to use their ignorance to convince her that she would never find a place in the world except as his legacy and tool. It had taken her years to break free of that particular mental prison. “You said EDI was a person. Well, so are you. You have friends. You have me. You have an entire galaxy of people who worship the ground you walk on. If you can't identify with your species, identify with the community you chose for yourself."

“And so I finally get the real reason you joined Cerberus." He smiled weakly. "I just wanted us to be the same species."

“Henry wanted a master race lording above all others. I chose to help them instead.” Her fingers traced the outline of his cheek. "Besides, I seem to recall someone once telling me that compassion and drive were the true marks of humanity."

His smile grew a little brighter. It was a start. "And sexual compatibility. Don't forget that."

Another nice excerpt. I like it. And LOL....I can imagine what will happen after that prolonged period of sexual abstinence has ended.  An interesting irony in the face of the LotSB dossier: I recall you said that the Synthesis repaired Miranda's infertility. Only now there will be no children because of Matt (there would be no DNA left of him).

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