Thanks. Earlier I tried a more serious tone and didn't get anywhere. I guess now we know why.flemm wrote...
It definitely feels good
I enjoyed reading your letter by the way. You made your points while maintaining a high level of amusing snark.
Very fitting![]()
"I'll always want you in my life." Miranda Lawson in Mass Effect 3
#45076
Posté 05 avril 2012 - 02:54
#45077
Posté 05 avril 2012 - 03:04
New favorite wallpaper. And with that, I am off.
#45078
Posté 05 avril 2012 - 03:38
I feel, omigosh, like, so embarrassed! Like that student who turns in her midterm and misses that one question everyone else answered right.Totally Not Swaggacide wrote...
We clearly all made the wrong choice by romancing Miranda in ME2, BW clearly wanted us to go for Liara
Seriously though, I found I liked Liara as a character in ME3 and really valued her friendship arc. I think it's kind of unfortunate that the game shoves her at you to the point that some are put off by the character.
#45079
Posté 05 avril 2012 - 04:42
http://shannon.users...net/masseffect/
#45080
Posté 05 avril 2012 - 04:45
I really wanted Shepard to take advantage of "poker" night. Sigh that never happened!
Modifié par enayasoul, 05 avril 2012 - 04:51 .
#45081
Posté 05 avril 2012 - 04:50
Totally Not Swaggacide wrote...
You guys should check this out. Make your own ending to Mass Effect 3
http://shannon.users...net/masseffect/
I have. It's not bad. I still think EDI being part of the Normandy wouldn't be truely gone... just the body. Think about it? How can you separate the two? ME3 should have had one to be honest. Epilogue. I don't know...
#45082
Posté 05 avril 2012 - 04:59
enayasoul wrote...
Totally Not Swaggacide wrote...
You guys should check this out. Make your own ending to Mass Effect 3
http://shannon.users...net/masseffect/
I have. It's not bad. I still think EDI being part of the Normandy wouldn't be truely gone... just the body. Think about it? How can you separate the two? ME3 should have had one to be honest. Epilogue. I don't know...
its better than.....
#45083
Posté 05 avril 2012 - 05:03
I romanced Ashley in ME1. So my experience, from playing through the Mars mission and the hospital visits, was that the game was telling me point blank that Ash was my canon romance and I needed to get with the picture.enayasoul wrote...
I enjoyed Liara's friendship path a great deal but my male Shep "Jon" was in love with Miranda and always will be. Ashley had some interesting moments but I never felt she ever trusted him until the very end. Kind of sad actually but Shepard's humor towards Ash drunk on the floor was fun. Do they have fire alarms on the Normandy? Odd...
I really wanted Shepard to take advantage of "poker" night. Sigh that never happened!
Does Miranda get a romance story arc of separation and reaffirmed commitment that is interwoven into the plot? No.
Does Shepard remain grief-stricken and silent the entire time he carries Miranda into the medbay, ignoring Liara's comments? No.
Does Shepard stand over Miranda as she lays in the hospital bed, going into a soliloquy about how much she means to him? No.
Can Shepard buy Miranda thoughtful presents? No.
Is it Miranda who I share much of the Cerberus subplot with? No.
#45084
Posté 05 avril 2012 - 05:04
Doesn't work on Wii.Totally Not Swaggacide wrote...
You guys should check this out. Make your own ending to Mass Effect 3
http://shannon.users...net/masseffect/
#45085
Posté 05 avril 2012 - 08:56
Totally Not Swaggacide wrote...
You guys should check this out. Make your own ending to Mass Effect 3
http://shannon.users...net/masseffect/
Not bad. Thanks Swagga
#45086
Posté 05 avril 2012 - 09:07
ThomGau wrote...
Totally Not Swaggacide wrote...
You guys should check this out. Make your own ending to Mass Effect 3
http://shannon.users...net/masseffect/
Not bad. Thanks Swagga
Sure thing buddy
#45087
Posté 05 avril 2012 - 10:30
Totally Not Swaggacide wrote...
You guys should check this out. Make your own ending to Mass Effect 3
http://shannon.users...net/masseffect/
That's really quite good. The "Control" ending slide for Miranda amuses me quite a lot, and it captures her quite well I believe.
#45088
Posté 05 avril 2012 - 11:19
I am put off for (mostly) no other reason, I can't overlook it. Liara is creator's pet, she usurped the role Miranda should have gotten as Shepard's primary intelligence give, and one of the reaons Miranda has been sidelined. I am not inclined to forgive that, regardless of how well she was written.Nightwriter wrote...
I feel, omigosh, like, so embarrassed! Like that student who turns in her midterm and misses that one question everyone else answered right.Totally Not Swaggacide wrote...
We clearly all made the wrong choice by romancing Miranda in ME2, BW clearly wanted us to go for Liara
Seriously though, I found I liked Liara as a character in ME3 and really valued her friendship arc. I think it's kind of unfortunate that the game shoves her at you to the point that some are put off by the character.
#45089
Posté 05 avril 2012 - 11:26
I was very disappointed that I didn't get one for Control. What did it say?Prudii Aden wrote...
Totally Not Swaggacide wrote...
You guys should check this out. Make your own ending to Mass Effect 3
http://shannon.users...net/masseffect/
That's really quite good. The "Control" ending slide for Miranda amuses me quite a lot, and it captures her quite well I believe.
#45090
Posté 05 avril 2012 - 12:07
#45091
Posté 05 avril 2012 - 12:32
TOP SECRET
EYES ONLY
Project code-name "Platform-Shepard"
Personnel files: Miranda Lawson
Miranda Lawson was instrumental in the Cerebus project that restored Commander Shepard, and according to several sources became an intimate associate of his. Some concerns were raised about bringing Lawson into the Project, given her history with Cerebus; however, "Outreach" seems to believe that Lawson could be critical in our efforts to "recover the original Shepard data."
When debriefed as to the nature and goals of the Project, Lawson was quick to sign up. Overall she seemed—smug. She said: "I brought him back once. I'll do it again. You'll see."
Outreach is listed in a previous slide as being the geth ambassador.
#45092
Posté 05 avril 2012 - 12:34
#45093
Posté 05 avril 2012 - 12:45
Ieldra2 wrote...
Grr...I don't think there should be epilogue versions that require MP.
We all do.
#45094
Posté 05 avril 2012 - 12:53
I think that's a little unfair. It can get aggravating sure. But I think Liara should be judged on the character's own merits just like everyone else. And being a writer favorite is not a free pass to good writing.Ieldra2 wrote...
I am put off for (mostly) no other reason, I can't overlook it. Liara is creator's pet, she usurped the role Miranda should have gotten as Shepard's primary intelligence give, and one of the reaons Miranda has been sidelined. I am not inclined to forgive that, regardless of how well she was written.
#45095
Posté 05 avril 2012 - 01:00
#45096
Posté 05 avril 2012 - 01:02
CrutchCricket wrote...
I think that's a little unfair. It can get aggravating sure. But I think Liara should be judged on the character's own merits just like everyone else. And being a writer favorite is not a free pass to good writing.
No. Also, I don't think Liara really gets in the way of the role Miranda should have played in this story. Not to say that intelligence gatherer wouldn't have been a good fit, theoretically, but the SM made that impossible. The main role Miranda should have played in this story was providing additional options in the Cerberus arc (plot impact) and allowing you to roleplay away from Alliance (squad role).
If anything EDI is more the Miranda substitute than Liara, but again, a necessary evil of the SM, and not a huge issue in itself, since Miranda could provide additional "layers" of choice/outcomes, as other squad members do elsewhere in the plot.
Hence the most basic problem is the decision to remove all ambiguity from Cerberus. There's only one option (destroy it), there's no substantial opportunity to roleplay one's allegiance, and the more complex/idealistic interpretation of the organisation represented by Miranda is silenced.
So I think the real issue is the unwillingness to let Miranda be Miranda and play the role in the story that she should logically play.
Modifié par flemm, 05 avril 2012 - 01:05 .
#45097
Posté 05 avril 2012 - 01:15
How did the SM make it impossible exactly?flemm wrote...
No. Also, I don't think Liara really gets in the way of the role Miranda should have played in this story. Not to say that intelligence gatherer wouldn't have been a good fit, theoretically, but the SM made that impossible. The main role Miranda should have played in this story was providing additional options in the Cerberus arc (plot impact) and allowing you to roleplay away from Alliance (squad role).
If anything EDI is more the Miranda substitute than Liara, but again, a necessary evil of the SM, and not a huge issue in itself, since Miranda could provide additional "layers" of choice/outcomes, as other squad members do elsewhere in the plot.
Hence the most basic problem is the decision to remove all ambiguity from Cerberus. There's only one option (destroy it), there's no substantial opportunity to roleplay one's allegiance, and the more complex/idealistic interpretation of the organisation represented by Miranda is silenced.
So I think the real issue is the unwillingness to let Miranda be Miranda and play the role in the story that she should logically play.
But yeah, regarding EDI, she's got Miranda beat on Cerberus intelligence hands down. AI, with "detailed files".
Even if she doesn't have acces to everything right away she can certainly hack in faster and get it. The Cerberus HQ mission was a perfect example. EDI digging up Lazarus was a gut punch for Miranda fans but technically, there's nothing wrong with it.
Even Liara's Shadow Brokering can be assisted, if not downright taken over by EDI- must not say any more now. But in any case Miranda should provide context on the info and additional angles brought on by personal experience.
#45098
Posté 05 avril 2012 - 01:20
CrutchCricket wrote...
How did the SM make it impossible exactly?
Well, somebody needs to provide that Shadow Broker intelligence/information in all games.
As for EDI, she does the does the same for Cerberus arc. It shouldn't really be a problem, though, as Miranda should just provide something new/different above the baseline outcomes.
#45099
Posté 05 avril 2012 - 02:00
Not sure I follow on what the SM has to do with it?flemm wrote...
Well, somebody needs to provide that Shadow Broker intelligence/information in all games.
As for EDI, she does the does the same for Cerberus arc. It shouldn't really be a problem, though, as Miranda should just provide something new/different above the baseline outcomes.
#45100
Posté 05 avril 2012 - 02:04





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