Ieldra2 wrote...
Can you point me to that tweet? I have trouble opening any page but my home page on twitter atm.MisterJB wrote...
A fan questioned Walters about this in his tweet. Walters said that was in the works.jtav wrote...
Article about Hale. She hasn't been contacted.
Modifié par Vertigo_1, 05 avril 2012 - 06:45 .
jtav wrote...
I'll be blunt: "happy dust" will go a very long way in mollifying me. Not all the way, but it's amazing what you'll put up with in terms of logic if the ending makes you feel good.
Ieldra2 wrote...
Can you point me to that tweet? I have trouble opening any page but my home page on twitter atm.MisterJB wrote...
A fan questioned Walters about this in his tweet. Walters said that was in the works.jtav wrote...
Article about Hale. She hasn't been contacted.
Unless there is a way for Shep to survive all 3 endings and live with his/her LI and not have the Normandy crew stranded, there's nothing that can be done to make me feel better about the endings.jtav wrote...
I'll be blunt: "happy dust" will go a very long way in mollifying me. Not all the way, but it's amazing what you'll put up with in terms of logic if the ending makes you feel good.
Bioware staff:
As many of your disappointed fans, I'm writing this letter to make you notice of my thoughts of your poor work with ME3. I know many of the fans are complaining with the rushed (?) and bad work with the endings; however that is not the reason why I'm writing this letter.
The games has its good parts, I enjoyed the arcs of the genophage and the war on Rannoch. However for me all that is tainted by the poor treatment some characters received, especially one of my favorites: Miranda.
There were thing that fascinated me from the character (more than "dat ass"). I liked her being a "grey" character. In ME2 she believes in the human advance Cerberus represented, she joined them knowing that the people benefiting from their action would never thanks her and she’ll be marked as a terrorist the rest of her life. The word impossible wasn’t in her dictionary. Even if she is a member of an organization known for being racist she isn’t a
xenophobe: she admires asari culture, and she understands the need of humanity to have groups like the salarian
STG. I liked her being a good operative, someone who doesn’t need to be treated as porcelain. She could just a man in cold blood, yet she still has a caring heart to love her sister (and Shepard if romanced).
I liked her stigma of being created to please the desires of his father and his dynasty, not be able of being proud of all of her success because her advantage was given by her father, but Shepard could convince her to take credits for what she has achieved, by her determination, not for the gifts of her father.
Back at the end of 2010 when I first played the Mass Effect series, I was expecting to know more about her character, however since the release of the DLC Lair of the Shadow broker, her character has being poorly treated.
The things I don’t like from her SB dossier are:
Infertility problems: I don’t like that she, having all of those amazing gifts; she isn’t able to pass them. But the most retarded part is that being in the XXII century, and with the technology to bring a man back from the dead, her problem
can’t be cured.
She is more than an operative, she’s also a women of science, but cancelled a subscription to a science magazine and a she is more interested in fashion? WHAT A HELL WAS WRONG WITH YOU WRITERS.
I have no problem with the iPartner thing, she’s a healthy woman, and she deserves some stress relief, but her nickname, Lawbringer-SR2. Does it mean that she had those encounters during the mission? That is incompetence from her, way out of character.
Those are my complains about LotSB, now, regarding the main topic, her poor treatment in ME3. I know she wasn’t the less favored character and LI from the game (Jacob has the worst part), but you destroyed a big part of the characterization you gave her in Mass Effect 2. The only trait remaining from her is the love for her sister, but what a hell happened with the rest?
She spent all her adult life working for Cerberus, but she doesn’t have any comment about the organization that is attempting against its own principles. The same organization she was part for nearly 20 years.
She was genetic engineered by her father, but she doesn’t have a single line to him touching this topic. Doesn’t she have anything to say to the man who tormented her during her young life? And that is menacing her younger sister.
Where is my operative? Every character from ME2 has it badass moments in the game: Grunt fighting against rachni husks, Jack fighting against Cerberus troops, Thane and his fight with Leng. But she, a leading character from the previous game, doesn’t have any moment like this? Just a crappy “biotic punch” to her father (a civilian, not a trained person). A punch that ended any possible dialogue between her and her father.
The name of her father, Henry Lawson. She is smart; don’t you think that changing her surname is the most logical thing to do when she is hiding from her father?
She's antisocial. In the game she just speaks to Shepard and Oriana. She doesn't have any line to any other character, and there's no single character who has a line to her. She was the second-in-command on the Normandy during ME2, why doesn't Garrus and Tali has lines to her? Liara knew her since redemption, and she doesn't have anything to say to her neither.
Was it really so hard to have Miranda as a squadmate? At least for one mission, assaulting TIM’s base. She is the only person who Shepard know whom has being on TIM base before. She was the most logical option to have as squadmate in there. Even if you couldn’t considerate her as squadmate (you wanted the original team back, not any of the “expendable” characters from ME2), she could be on the Normandy, talking to us by radio during that mission (just as Wrex/Wreav and Mordin did during the missions of the genophage arc). Was it really so hard to have her on the Normandy after Sanctuary. She was hurt after her encounter with Leng; couldn’t Shepard just bring her to the medical bay of the Normandy to treat her? Maybe have her and Oriana some talk on the Normandy.
Another of the main problem with her is that she doesn’t have anything to contribute after Sanctuary. She just is useless after that. Every other character does something, but all she did after that was taking Oriana to a safe place. She isn’t doing anything after that, we have no word from her until the holovid talk. And the poor excuse of mail that can be read in Liara’s terminal doesn’t help much. Cerberus is already done by the time when get that mail, and Miranda as a fighter pilot? SHE IS AN OPERATIVE, NOT A PILOT. She can do better things out of a fighter. You can’t ignore the fact that after Sanctuary, she is just 25 points for the EMS.
Now, regarding her romance, I appreciate the good lines she had, but the romance has lack of contents, and isn’t even half of what the favored LIs get.
The romance scene: For me that wasn’t a romance scene, just an extended version of a talk, a talk that isn’t even exclusive of the romanced version. And it happens to early, even before there’s a conclusion with her sister disappearance. Why couldn’t you have a true romance scene with her onboard the Normandy right after Sanctuary, with a pillow talk like the favored LI. The only thing she had it’s an extension of a talk and a fade out screen (even the consort from ME1 has more than that).
She is emotionally unstable. If Shepard brakes up with her in the first talk, she dies no matter what? Why is she the only character who dies by something like that? Why can’t any of the others characters die if Shepard doesn’t want to continue a relationship with them?
Shepard is the worst Lover. There isn’t a single visual kiss between Shepard and Miranda.The only way to get a kiss with her is killing her.
Regarding the romance with her, there’s nothing left if she survives. Her romance is better in her dead scenario than where she survives. After Sanctuary there’s nothing between Shepard and Miranda anymore, just a poor holovid talk on Earth, then again, WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH YOU? Why can’t any of the characters be in the same place before Shepard last battle? Why can’t all of them being together in one place to offer all their last words to Shepard in person.
Shepard isn’t a character that is just defined by his actions, what most define him are the people who surrounds him. He can affect them, and they can affect him.
And now some things that are insulting to her character. EDI’s alternative appearance and Liara’s flashback.
Why EDI has those appearances too similar to the suit of Miranda from ME2? They are almost the exact thing. I wanted her with my team during the game, I never wanted a fembot just to please Joker sexual desires.
Liara’s flashback is a thing that affects every player who didn’t romanced her (or the VS). What is most insulting is that it isn’t a bug of the game. It’s just a lazy work or a way to show us the middle finger in the last moment of the game. I have no intention of romancing Liara, why did you have to force us that character so many times.
I know you won’t correct the poor treatment she received with DLC. I know you never wanted her to be a good character in ME3 (she was complex in ME2, in ME2 she is just simple), I doubt you want to spend money paying her VA, and the main problem: you can’t write content of quality anymore.
And that’s almost all I have to say. If I can resume what I think of Miranda in ME3 it will be just two words: total failure. You were too preoccupied with other characters, and you just decided to shaft the rest. You attitude of “keep it
simple” ruined many characters of the series.
Enzo (AKA Skullheart from BSN).
Modifié par Skullheart, 05 avril 2012 - 07:33 .
Hmm...so there *may* be new dialogue options with the starchild..... I wonder if I dare be hopeful.Vertigo_1 wrote...
Ieldra2 wrote...
Can you point me to that tweet? I have trouble opening any page but my home page on twitter atm.MisterJB wrote...
A fan questioned Walters about this in his tweet. Walters said that was in the works.jtav wrote...
Article about Hale. She hasn't been contacted.
Found it!
It was Mike Gamble who said it:
twitter.com/#!/GambleMike/status/187929762017193984
"Not gonna lie, we do appreciate the effort. Still kind of worried that Meer/Hale have said they weren't contacted for VA yet..."
"Don't worry. All that is in the works"
i don't think we should hope for much otherwise no matter what we are given we will be disapointed.Ieldra2 wrote...
Hmm...so there *may* be new dialogue options with the starchild..... I wonder if I dare be hopeful.Vertigo_1 wrote...
Ieldra2 wrote...
Can you point me to that tweet? I have trouble opening any page but my home page on twitter atm.MisterJB wrote...
A fan questioned Walters about this in his tweet. Walters said that was in the works.jtav wrote...
Article about Hale. She hasn't been contacted.
Found it!
It was Mike Gamble who said it:
twitter.com/#!/GambleMike/status/187929762017193984
"Not gonna lie, we do appreciate the effort. Still kind of worried that Meer/Hale have said they weren't contacted for VA yet..."
"Don't worry. All that is in the works"
Modifié par cbutz, 05 avril 2012 - 07:21 .
Skullheart wrote...
Just finished my letter. Can someone help me to correct the grammar and spelling errors? I'm not an english speaker,
Can someone help me before posting it in the other thread?
Modifié par cg8900, 05 avril 2012 - 07:35 .
I don't have such a big problem with it. As long as I'm not forced to accept it as some kind of divine authority, I can live with it. If Shepard isn't forced to accept its logic without question it, making himself look like an idiot, I can live with it.CrutchCricket wrote...
Hope? What hope? As long as that damn holokid exists, there is no hope. Not in what they give us anyway.
Three games making such a big deal about this war... and all we're fighting is giant killbots under the control of a holokid? No. I refuse to accept that. Oh and the stupid logic isn't going away either.Ieldra2 wrote...
I don't have such a big problem with it. As long as I'm not forced to accept it as some kind of divine authority, I can live with it. If Shepard isn't forced to accept its logic without question it, making himself look like an idiot, I can live with it.
I just hope they won't put Miranda off Earth.
True but Hackett always gave me the impression that he's been in on a few "missions that never happened". Contrast with Anderson who seems like a straight-arrow by comparison.Td1984 wrote...
Well, I guess Admiral Hackett would figure that if Shepard trusts her, that's likely good enough for him.
CrutchCricket wrote...
It's funny... but all this is actually making me want to BE a Reaper. If I ever play again and don't alt-f4 right after Anderson dies I'm picking control. It's the only option I know for a fact kills that damn holokid. The cycle is inevitable. Might as wellgo onbe the winning side.
A perfect match. Just remember that it was Hackett who gave Renegade Shepard the "Negotiation" mission in ME1. He's definitely not squeamish about doing things not quite by the book.CrutchCricket wrote...
But anyway. Miranda topics... what do people think of Miranda working with Hackett? There weren't too many comments when I last posted this.
Modifié par Ieldra2, 05 avril 2012 - 08:46 .
Ieldra2 wrote...
A perfect match. Just remember that it was Hackett who gave Renegade Shepard the "Negotiation" mission in ME1. He's definitely not squeamish about doing things not quite by the book.
If the Alliance can see the need for a human STG, I have no objection. Miranda might need a little more leeway that they're willing to give after the Cerberus fiasco, but impressive results will be a great way of convincing people, and Miranda has a knack for getting those.flemm wrote...
Ieldra2 wrote...
A perfect match. Just remember that it was Hackett who gave Renegade Shepard the "Negotiation" mission in ME1. He's definitely not squeamish about doing things not quite by the book.
Agreed. Hackett's one reason I could see Humanity's STG having strong Alliance ties.
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