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[Lawrence0294]

o Ventus wrote...

Published the first chapter of my post-ME3 story. Maybe I can scrap something together from the turd ball Bioware handed us. Will update my signature when the document finishes upload.

It's great, any ideas when you'll publish the next ?

[Totally Not Swaggacide]

BW is about to feel our rage

[Ieldra]

jtav wrote...
Can you imagine that as her failure state? Begging Shep to kill her before the voices in her head grow too loud *shudder*

I was the one who suggested that as a possible death scenario back in November. I still think it would be a good one. I keep wondering why they didn't use such an obvious setup with anyone. 

[wright1978]

I'll be interested to see if any of these new cutscenes in the 'extended cut' address the battles going on in the sky and on earth. I've got in my head a scene where Miranda & her Ex-cerberus renegades swoop in to save Jack and her students. Would kind of bring the Cerberus cheerleader and subject zero relationship full circle in my head

[Totally Not Swaggacide]

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[Ieldra]

CrutchCricket wrote...
Wait a minute, weren't we speculating about fencing a while ago? So there you have it. Miranda grabs a pipe, a piece of steel, something that can block Leng's sword and counters it that way. Shields/barriers for protection from his gun, other biotics to gain the upper hand. And she keeps moving, always.

This is a nice scene you're imagining. A steel pipe wouldn't do it, and it would not be her style, but why shouldn't she have something that can block a phantom's blade. Like, say, a phantom's blade? 

Also, Kai Leng may be tougher and stronger, but it's plausible that Miranda is more agile. Thane was almost his match, and while he was well-trained, he was not genetically improved. What wouldn't I've given to see that fight.

But we don't get to see it. Instead....speculation for everyone......

[Ieldra]

Skullheart wrote...
From the squad, I would glady sacrifice: Vega, Liara, EDI, Garrus and Tali just to have Miranda at my side. VS and Javik no. The vs was already margined during in ME2, and Javik is the only worthy character from the squad.

I'd pick EDI and Javik as survivors and sacrifice the rest to have Miranda back. 

[Ieldra]

jtav wrote...
Anyone know if you can edit flags so Miranda survives a default game?

The newest version of Gibbed's savegame editor can edit ME2 character loyalty flags. However, I don't know if they will work unless you start a new game from the edited save.

[Ieldra]

flemm wrote...

CrutchCricket wrote...

Bioware will take the time to explain to us ****** fans why their ending is so awesome. They are gracious enough to not charge us for the "honor".

Tbh, I think it's more like: "We realize we have embarrassed ourselves with this ending, but we can't change it too much without embarrassing ourselves further. Please accept this free DLC as an apology and hopefully desist in transforming ME3 into a permanent punchline in popular culture. We have to talk about artistic integrity, because otherwise it would seem like we are admitting that we screwed the pooch big time on this one."

Indeed. That's exactly how I interpret it. I wonder what's so wrong with admitting they screwed up.

[flemm]

Ieldra2 wrote...

Indeed. That's exactly how I interpret it. I wonder what's so wrong with admitting they screwed up.

Well, the problem is how everyone would react to that. I mean, it would be like an official statement that said, "The ending of our game sucks." That's about as likely as an official statement saying "Our game sucks."

Also, while the ending fiasco has been embarrassing, caving in completely would also cover the company in lasting ridicule, while not necessarily improving things much. Good endings are actually difficult. That's why so often they are unsatisfying (Lost, nuBSG, just to name two other recent examples).

Modifié par flemm, 06 avril 2012 - 02:04 .

[flemm]

ThomGau wrote...

Thanks for the update and for putting this great scheme into motion Visii . I can't wait to see the decorated binder being given to the writers.

Indeed, many thanks to Visii for the effort and dedication to put this together.

*applause*

[jtav]

I am finally importing my Shep that had a ME1 romance. Keeping in mind Shep doesn't have a strategy guide handy and is going off reasonably foreseen consequences, is it better to cheat on Miranda or break up?

[ThomGau]

Ieldra2 wrote...

flemm wrote...

CrutchCricket wrote...

Bioware will take the time to explain to us ****** fans why their ending is so awesome. They are gracious enough to not charge us for the "honor".

Tbh, I think it's more like: "We realize we have embarrassed ourselves with this ending, but we can't change it too much without embarrassing ourselves further. Please accept this free DLC as an apology and hopefully desist in transforming ME3 into a permanent punchline in popular culture. We have to talk about artistic integrity, because otherwise it would seem like we are admitting that we screwed the pooch big time on this one."

Indeed. That's exactly how I interpret it. I wonder what's so wrong with admitting they screwed up.

Seconded.

I believe that it is professional pride which makes it hard for them to admit they screwed up big time. But well, when you're a professional you should also know how to correct you mistakes and they apparently started doing it. This DLC won't probably be much of what we really want but it is still a (little) step forward, I'd give them that much.

Modifié par ThomGau, 06 avril 2012 - 03:15 .

[o Ventus]

kratos0294 wrote...

o Ventus wrote...

Published the first chapter of my post-ME3 story. Maybe I can scrap something together from the turd ball Bioware handed us. Will update my signature when the document finishes upload.

It's great, any ideas when you'll publish the next ?

Glad you like it so far. I already have an outline planned for part two.

[o Ventus]

ThomGau wrote...

Ieldra2 wrote...

flemm wrote...

CrutchCricket wrote...

Bioware will take the time to explain to us ****** fans why their ending is so awesome. They are gracious enough to not charge us for the "honor".

Tbh, I think it's more like: "We realize we have embarrassed ourselves with this ending, but we can't change it too much without embarrassing ourselves further. Please accept this free DLC as an apology and hopefully desist in transforming ME3 into a permanent punchline in popular culture. We have to talk about artistic integrity, because otherwise it would seem like we are admitting that we screwed the pooch big time on this one."

Indeed. That's exactly how I interpret it. I wonder what's so wrong with admitting they screwed up.

Seconded.

I believe that it is professional pride which makes it hard for them to admit they screwed up big time. But well, when you're a professional you should also know how to correct you mistakes and they apparently started doing it. This DLC won't probably be much of what we really want but it is still a (little) step forward, I'd give them that much.

Something something "Artistic integrity" something something "We're listening (But at the same time, ignoring all of you)"

[Ieldra]

jtav wrote...
I am finally importing my Shep that had a ME1 romance. Keeping in mind Shep doesn't have a strategy guide handy and is going off reasonably foreseen consequences, is it better to cheat on Miranda or break up?

I believe that she survives if you cheat. IMO that's worth metagaming a little.

Modifié par Ieldra2, 06 avril 2012 - 03:39 .

[enayasoul]

Ieldra2 wrote...

jtav wrote...
I am finally importing my Shep that had a ME1 romance. Keeping in mind Shep doesn't have a strategy guide handy and is going off reasonably foreseen consequences, is it better to cheat on Miranda or break up?

I believe that she survives if you cheat. IMO that's worth metagaming a little.

Who are you thinking of cheated with?  While romancing Miranda...   Ok... I admit I did check out some options but quickly reloaded after them. Hah... Liara's wanting to be more than friends.  Funny how Shepard looks upwards towards Miranda's apartment.  

And asking Traynor for some exercise on the bed. Boy, that was hilarious watching Shepard stumble and make an ass of himself.  Reloaded. 

Not even going to touch the reporter girl.  Creeped him the hell out.  Still don't like how Cortez was trying to be all chummie with my male shep.   "Anything for you Commander."  Please don't!  I almost picked "eye candy" because Shepard is eye candy to me. Yikes.

Modifié par enayasoul, 06 avril 2012 - 03:52 .

[o Ventus]

I wasn't that creeped out by Cortez, tbh. It didn't seem like he was coming on to me (For the most part). Allers was hilarious when she tried flirting, but was promptly shot down. Never asked Traynor about the bed, since Shepard isn't going to flirt with another woman while he's already with Miranda.

Liara always having that flirty sounding auto-dialogue (And Shepard's being equally flirty) pisses me off to no end.

Modifié par o Ventus, 06 avril 2012 - 03:54 .

[Ieldra]

Oh, Cyrus Shepard will never cheat on Miranda, and he's Shepard for me. But I have other playthroughs I'm not so much invested in, and so has jtav I think. We want to see the other romances to their conclusion and that requires cheating on Miranda or breaking up in one occasion. I couldn't bear being the cause of Miranda's death, so I'd take advantage of Bioware's laziness and act as if it was possible to romance both. Miranda will revert to non-romance state at the third talk but she won't die as she would if you break up with her.

Or so I believe. Haven't tried this myself yet.

Modifié par Ieldra2, 06 avril 2012 - 03:58 .

[o Ventus]

Can't just youtube it?

[MrNose]

Ieldra2 wrote...

flemm wrote...

CrutchCricket wrote...

Bioware will take the time to explain to us ****** fans why their ending is so awesome. They are gracious enough to not charge us for the "honor".

Tbh, I think it's more like: "We realize we have embarrassed ourselves with this ending, but we can't change it too much without embarrassing ourselves further. Please accept this free DLC as an apology and hopefully desist in transforming ME3 into a permanent punchline in popular culture. We have to talk about artistic integrity, because otherwise it would seem like we are admitting that we screwed the pooch big time on this one."

Indeed. That's exactly how I interpret it. I wonder what's so wrong with admitting they screwed up.

Mass Effect is one of EA's biggest franchises.  EA is a publically traded company.  

You don't get to say things like "we screwed up" when stock price is at stake.  Undermines investor confidence.  

[o Ventus]

Can't let integrity and consumer trust get in the way of the phat $$$.

[MrNose]

Ieldra2 wrote...

Or so I believe. Haven't tried this myself yet.

I have.  It does indeed work that way.

The lack of a confrontation between Ashley and Miranda was...  Disappointing.  

[MrNose]

Have you all heard about the free mulltiplayer DLC on April 10th?

Modifié par MrNose, 06 avril 2012 - 04:22 .

[o Ventus]

Don't get me started on how much I think that DLC is a bad idea.

They won't alter the endings or make new ones because of "artistic vision" (My ass), but they'll make a DLC with more maps, more characters (Geth are going to be awkward, how are you going to tell friendly geth from hostiles?), more weapons (Harpoon gun? the hell), and consumables.