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[LuxDragon]

jtav wrote...

Tell me about it. I find the rejection scene more erotic anyway. She sounds like she's going to tear his clothes off the second she gets an opportunity.

I understand why she wanted to.

Because that actually might be the 'last' opportunity they might get. Remember, the idea was that the whole thing was a suicide mission.

[MisterJB]

101:Shepard: Miranda, you know I want to, but this isn't the time. We need to focus on the mission.
Miranda c!cks her head ever so slightly yet continues to smile.
Miranda: Hmm. Always thinking about the job. No matter what you have to give up in the process.
Miranda runs her hand down Shepard's chest.
Miranda: The Illusive Man chose well when he picked you. I'll keep you updated with any mission reports.
Miranda walks into the elevator while Shepard just stands there watching.
The elevator door closes.

Modifié par MisterJB, 13 juillet 2011 - 06:43 .

[MASSEFFECTfanforlife101]

No.....no no no. I cannot do that, NO!!!!    Don't force me.

I L<3VE the Romance Scene. AND I L<3VE the sense AND feel of culmination.

Modifié par MASSEFFECTfanforlife101, 13 juillet 2011 - 06:56 .

[Td1984]

In regards to the Prothean ruins on Mars, remember the Protheans have been extinct (outside of the Collectors) for 50,000 years. So the ruins have been there for at least that long, if not longer. There are many things that could have caused them to be covered up. As for what revealed them, maybe we happened to excavate in the right place, or perhaps a marsquake did the job for us.

In regards to my favorite ME1 character, other than Ash, it's easily Gianna Parasini (if she's available as an LI in ME3, I may have a Shep be single throughout the first 2 games in order to romance her).

Now, to keep this post from being 100% off-topic, I too think a sniper rifle would suit Miranda.

[jtav]

Considering the crew kidnapping and how like a pair of horny teens they act, it rubs me the wrong way. But I'm not the target audience for this.

[LuxDragon]

Meh, when faced with impending doom/death, I suppose we all look at a situation differently.

[Skullheart]

About Oriana safety, Miri could have made some arrangements before the SM in case she died. She know that it could be a one way trip, and cerberus wouldn't have any reason to protect Oriana anymore, they could even gave her to her father to gain some funds.

[Ieldra]

I certainly hope not to see Oriana as a plot hook again. We had that. I don't care how they'll spin it. Easiest is to say Miranda will have enough time to get her to safety between Arrival and the trial, and it will have to hold for a few months only. When the Reapers arrive, her father - who's supposedly on Earth - will have other problems.

Modifié par Ieldra2, 13 juillet 2011 - 08:03 .

[jtav]

I've just started this amazing Miranda/Jack piece and thought I'd share.

The Convict & The Loyalist

[Ieldra]

jtav wrote...
I've just started this amazing Miranda/Jack piece and thought I'd share.

The Convict & The Loyalist

Such a gem of a fanfic.....for 80% of its length. And then the author ruins it by having it end with sex. I'm beginning to think that sex is the curse of fanfic.

Tbh, the scene isn't bad. It even has some good characterization of Miranda in it. But I'm still sick of the overemphasis on sex.

Modifié par Ieldra2, 13 juillet 2011 - 08:36 .

[jtav]

I thought the sex worked. It's a power play. I'm curious where things go from here.

[whywhywhywhy]

I was gonna say I support this thread until I read this:

*No objectifying ass shots. We like that Miranda is sexually experienced, but she is not a sex object.

*But we do want to see the femme fatale aspects described in the art book. Let her use her sex appeal as a weapon.


That's very contradicting.

[TheMarshal]

whywhywhywhy wrote...

I was gonna say I support this thread until I read this:

*No objectifying ass shots. We like that Miranda is sexually experienced, but she is not a sex object.

*But we do want to see the femme fatale aspects described in the art book. Let her use her sex appeal as a weapon.


That's very contradicting.

Not really.  None of the ass-shots in game were instances of her using sex as a weapon.  They were just there to draw the player's attention to her ass, with no effect on the story.

[whywhywhywhy]

A woman using sex as a weapon objectifies herself after all she has to be an object of desire to leverage her ASSets.

[jtav]

Miranda is objectified because the shots and camera angles are there for pure titlation. They aren't characterization, they're fanservice. I want that to change.

[Kaiser Shepard]

MASSEFFECTfanforlife101 wrote...

What is the rejection part look like? (I'm NOT saying I'm gonna do it) Link?

Click. Compared to the others, I'd say it's the best one. Garrus basically got told to stay in the friend zone at the last possible second and Jack, well damn.

Dunno if those romances continue as well, though. You'd think that they wouldn't...

Modifié par Kaiser Shepard, 13 juillet 2011 - 10:30 .

[TheMarshal]

whywhywhywhy wrote...

A woman using sex as a weapon objectifies herself after all she has to be an object of desire to leverage her ASSets.

Sex as a weapon is a woman choosing to objectify herself for her own goals.  The shots we see of Miranda's ass are because the directors were objectifying her for the sole purpose of objectifying her.

[100k]

TheMarshal wrote...

whywhywhywhy wrote...

A woman using sex as a weapon objectifies herself after all she has to be an object of desire to leverage her ASSets.

Sex as a weapon is a woman choosing to objectify herself for her own goals.  The shots we see of Miranda's ass are because the directors were objectifying her for the sole purpose of objectifying her.

Objectification which ultimately is lost due to the fact that she's a stellar character with a lot of inner conflict and resolution. 

[MASSEFFECTfanforlife101]

Kaiser Shepard wrote...

Click. Compared to the others, I'd say it's the best one. Garrus basically got told to stay in the friend zone at the last possible second and Jack, well damn.

Dunno if those romances continue as well, though. You'd think that they wouldn't...

Like I said, I cannot do that. I just can't. And I cannot be forced to. I cannot just change something like this.

I <3 the Romance Scene. AND I <3 the sense & feel of culmination. Confessing our true feelings to each other. And if you think about it., even though it is definitely NOT a "One Night Stand," there is a feeling that we might not see each other again.

It's a truly Wonderful and Romantic moment for me. You probably don't understand, but that is how I feel about it.:wub::wub:

Modifié par MASSEFFECTfanforlife101, 14 juillet 2011 - 01:17 .

[whywhywhywhy]

like I said before it's contradicting and even if Miranda is objectified on her own terms the presentation that comes across through a visual medium may even be more offensive to some. For instance Miranda in her "art of seduction" would be bending over and leaning forward to expose cleavage, you'd end up with more gratuitous objectifying shots of her assets. Regardless of the reason it would still end up serving the same purpose to the audience she was initially presented to in the first place. Given the effect to perception of the female that takes this route, I'd say the selective shots of Miranda are a better route to go.

[Arijharn]

jtav wrote...

I think we may. BW has had love interests as antagonists before (Bastila in KOTOR, Aribeth in NWN). And consider: "Will keep Oriana under observation for her safety only. Miranda Lawson is too valuable to Cerberus, and Oriana's well-being is easiest means of procuring loyalty."

I never thought of it like that, I wouldn't actually mind her acting as a (reluctant) antagonist for some time though because who am I kidding? I love drama.

As long as it's plausible and there is a way for us to mutually tear each others clothes off at some point it'll be fine.

Modifié par Arijharn, 14 juillet 2011 - 02:50 .

[jtav]

I'm sure you'll get your chance to rip each other's clothes off. And I do love drama.

Modifié par jtav, 14 juillet 2011 - 02:54 .

[Arijharn]

MisterJB wrote...

Arijharn wrote...
I don't have hard evidence no, but I don't see why it should be automatically dismissed out of hand, because I find it hard to believe that Mr. Lawson would agree to have his 'success' (and by what measurable standard) further 'endangered' some 7 years after her birth.

Mr. Lawson probrably considered that an heir without biotic abilities was not an heir worth keeping. And it's less dangerous to place Miranda's fate in the hands of a skilled surgeon than to expose a one year old baby to element zero and fingers crossed, let's hope she grows eezo nodules and not tumors.

My point is that she was the pioneer of in-utero exposure. It was after the success of this that made the 1 year afterwards public announcement possible. Ie., 'Cerberus' did something highly unethical but it paid off, then eventually the Systems Alliance does and finally humanity.

I think it's easier for a male at least to take a rather abstract notion of a child prior to its birth because we don't start the bonding experience until after we hold a child in the first place. It's because of this 'abstract' that I can totally believe that her father would be more cavalier about experimenting on her.

After 7 years though; I find it hard to believe that he'd just authorize a risky (and largely unknown) procedure on his daughter, especially when she's already a 'part of his dynasty.' 

[ISpeakTheTruth]

jtav wrote...

Miranda is objectified because the shots and camera angles are there for pure titlation. They aren't characterization, they're fanservice. I want that to change.

I agree.... I want more fanservice!!

I was never a big fan of those kind of shots we could already see clearly that her body was more shall we say curvy than the average girl but we don't need to have super closeup shots of her like we had in ME2.

[Mr. Gogeta34]

TheMarshal wrote...

whywhywhywhy wrote...

I was gonna say I support this thread until I read this:

*No objectifying ass shots. We like that Miranda is sexually experienced, but she is not a sex object.

*But we do want to see the femme fatale aspects described in the art book. Let her use her sex appeal as a weapon.


That's very contradicting.

Not really.  None of the ass-shots in game were instances of her using sex as a weapon.  They were just there to draw the player's attention to her ass, with no effect on the story.

I wouldn't go that far, I saw the shots as a means to getting to the player as she is supposed to be seductive... it's part of how she gets her job done.  Shepard may feel that way already, but the player gets to start thinking that way too from those shots.  Just a theory.