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[Totally Not Swaggacide]

@Ieldra2
You constantly contradicting yourself is quite a spectacle

[o Ventus]

Ieldra2 wrote...

o Ventus wrote...

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o Ventus wrote...

PlumPaul82393 wrote...

Ieldra2 wrote...It may not be the most plausible outcome, but I think that the ME3 team is inclined to put a positive spin on things wherever possible after the reaction to the ending.

Exactly, though I doubt anyone really cares if it isn't realistically possible.

I certainly don't. They're bothering with free glorified extended cutscenes and mutliplayer DLC.

Even though *everyone* complaining about the endings want entirely new ones.

Untrue. I like the final choice as such and have said so from the start. It's the insufficiently explained rationale for it, the nonsense in the Synthesis description and some of the consequences of the choice (destroyed relays in all endings, destroyed closure as one side effect, plot holes created by the stranded Normandy etc.) I take issue with.

As for "not realistically possible", people always use their imagination to fill gaps like this. That's how it's supposed to be. We did that when speculating about Miranda in ME2, interpreting what she says and what we're told about her in different ways according to our own preferences. As long as it's not outright contradictory and it is emotionally satisfying, few people will complain.  

Did you read what I wrote? I said "everyone *complaining* about the endings (See: Everyone who dislikes the endings) wants new ones (I have yet to meet one who doesn't)". If you like them, then that doesn't apply to you. Don't reply to me if you're going to get mad at me for nothing.

It appears you cannot distinguish between "I diagree" and "I'm mad at you". Believe me, if I was mad at you, you'd know it. And it's still untrue. I have complained about the ending in several threads, it's just different aspects of them than the final choice as such, and I'm not the only one by far, so it is definitely false that everyone complaining about the endings wants completely new ones.

Oh, and Destroy > Control.

Nice try, troll. But can we take this to a thread where it is on-topic?

First you say you like the ending (I assume that's what you meant) -- "I like the final choice", then you say you complain about it. Which is it?

How dare I prefer a different ending to what you perceive as the "perfect" one. I would prefer the discussion just drop, and for you to stop starting them.

[Ieldra]

o Ventus wrote...
Since you mentioned flowers, I could actually see Miranda accepting them as a gift, though it would be awkward. Come to think of it, I think gifts in general would be awkward, at least for a short while.

Yes, I've been thinking about gifts for Miranda often, and it's hard to come up with something. Perhaps a recording of Nielsen's fifth symphony conducted by someone famous. But that's about all I can think of. We have also speculated she likes chocolate, but that's not canon.

[Ieldra]

o Ventus wrote...
First you say you like the ending (I assume that's what you meant) -- "I like the final choice", then you say you complain about it. Which is it?

The endings consist of several things. There's the Catalyst scene as such, there's the three options you can choose from, there's the side effects of the choice (as opposed to the main effect), there's the Normandy scene and the stargazer epilogue. I have no problem with having the choice between controllikng the Reapers, destroying them and merging organic and synthetic life. I have a problem with the given rationale for the choice, the nonsensical description of the Synthesis, the  forced desctruction of the relays, the forced relocation of the Normandy to a remote planet, the general Garden Eden symbolism of that scene and the lack of closure and clarity.

How is that "not complaining about the endings"?

How dare I prefer a different ending to what you perceive as the "perfect" one. I would prefer the discussion just drop, and for you to stop starting them.

You started this by posting "Destroy > Control", not me.

[o Ventus]

Ieldra2 wrote...

How dare I prefer a different ending to what you perceive as the "perfect" one. I would prefer the discussion just drop, and for you to stop starting them.

You started this by posting "Destroy > Control", not me.

You started this with your initial reply to me. I never asked your opinion, but you gave it anyway.

[NOUF_N7]

i miss the perfect women in me3.....

[Totally Not Swaggacide]

NOUF_N7 wrote...

i miss the perfect women in me3.....

What do you mean?

[Ieldra]

o Ventus wrote...

Ieldra2 wrote...

How dare I prefer a different ending to what you perceive as the "perfect" one. I would prefer the discussion just drop, and for you to stop starting them.

You started this by posting "Destroy > Control", not me.

You started this with your initial reply to me. I never asked your opinion, but you gave it anyway.

Sorry for posting without your approval, Mr. Would-Be-Censor. And I talked about reactions to the ending in general, in response to your post, not about preferences for the final choice. Don't want others' opinions? Don't post yours. It's as easy as that.  

[Ieldra]

And to bring this back on-topic again:

What's not perfect about this woman? :

Modifié par Ieldra2, 08 avril 2012 - 09:21 .

[Totally Not Swaggacide]

@Ieldra2
You're the one who started the arguement

[Attila 6]

I agree she is perfect but also very tired and sad

[Totally Not Swaggacide]

Ieldra2 wrote...

And to bring this back on-topic again:

What's not perfect about this woman? :

Her extremely limited role in ME3

[o Ventus]

Attila 6 wrote...

I agree she is perfect but also very tired and sad

Are you saying she is tired and sad, or that she looks tired and sad in that picture?

[Ieldra]

Totally Not Swaggacide wrote...

Ieldra2 wrote...

And to bring this back on-topic again:

What's not perfect about this woman? :

Her extremely limited role in ME3

There is that..... But I have her in mind as she was in ME2. That woman is still under there somewhere. I have to believe it.

[Totally Not Swaggacide]

Ieldra2 wrote...

Totally Not Swaggacide wrote...

Ieldra2 wrote...

And to bring this back on-topic again:

What's not perfect about this woman? :

Her extremely limited role in ME3

There is that..... But I have her in mind as she was in ME2. That woman is still under there somewhere. I have to believe it.

I do much prefer her in ME2. I'm not much of a fan of her romance in ME3. I was having a tough time choosing between her and Ashley; but I honestly prefer Ashley now and not just because of what happened to Miranda.

[Attila 6]

she looks tired and sad

[Attila 6]

Remember what Liara told us:"You have no idea how much you changed her". I don`t understand why all of you in such a schock that she changed and belive me that ME2 Miranda is still there just watch the reject scene. Do you realized she always calls Shepard by his surname during the game (romanced).

[Attila 6]

You say you prefer Ashley now in matter of fact Ashley is in love with the Commander and not with Shepard. Miranda is quite the contrary, thats why I prefer Miranda much better

[o Ventus]

The "you've changed her" line is romance exclusive.

She calls Shepard by his surname because it would be hell programming in every single combination of letters and recording it for a first name.

[Attila 6]

Yes o Ventus I know that what I think is she loves the man more than the soldier.

[Totally Not Swaggacide]

Attila 6 wrote...

You say you prefer Ashley now in matter of fact Ashley is in love with the Commander and not with Shepard. Miranda is quite the contrary, thats why I prefer Miranda much better

What you said makes no sense. I like Ashley and I'm sticking with it it's not temporary

Modifié par Totally Not Swaggacide, 08 avril 2012 - 09:53 .

[ThomGau]

Indeed, it feels a bit awkward she still calls Shepard "Shepard" if romanced but well he has no defined name. I wouldn't be against a canon name (John) though.

Modifié par ThomGau, 08 avril 2012 - 10:04 .

[o Ventus]

ThomGau wrote...

Indeed, it feels a bit akward she still calls Shepard "Shepard" if romanced but well he has no defined name. I wouldn't be against a canon name (John) though.

Shepard suffers from the same problem as Mario. His first name is the same as his last name.

In all seriousness, I've grown to calling Shepard "Shepard", even when I have a first name for him. I guess it's a nickname, like James with "Loco".

[Totally Not Swaggacide]

@ThomGau
What do you name your Shepard?
Mine is the same my first name (Malcom)

[kookie28]

Ieldra2 wrote...

And to bring this back on-topic again:

What's not perfect about this woman? :

That she's only a fantasy.