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[ThomGau]

Will do Lemon

Adding further explanations to these endings is problematic.
It may bring some good things and closure but it may also replace the former "WTF ?" by a bigger one.
Also, by now we all have more or less fixed the endings on our own terms. This DLC may deny what we've painfuly created to counterbalance these stupid endings.

Modifié par ThomGau, 08 avril 2012 - 12:30 .

[jtav]

Yeah, I've got a pretty nice set up. Shepard's on his way back to life. Humanity ha neat tech capabilities. Civilization is rebuilding. What's not to like?

[Lawrence0294]

I wonder, through mass effect 2 and 3, does shepard ever call miranda miri?

[jtav]

No, and thank God for it.

[o Ventus]

kratos0294 wrote...

I wonder, through mass effect 2 and 3, does shepard ever call miranda miri?

Nope. And my Shepard never will. It's a professional thing. 

If he were to come up with a nickname for her, he wouldn't use the same one used by her dead former-best friend.

[Lawrence0294]

o Ventus wrote...

kratos0294 wrote...

I wonder, through mass effect 2 and 3, does shepard ever call miranda miri?

Nope. And my Shepard never will. It's a professional thing. 

If he were to come up with a nickname for her, he wouldn't use the same one used by her dead former-best friend.

Makes sense 

[o Ventus]

kratos0294 wrote...

o Ventus wrote...

kratos0294 wrote...

I wonder, through mass effect 2 and 3, does shepard ever call miranda miri?

Nope. And my Shepard never will. It's a professional thing. 

If he were to come up with a nickname for her, he wouldn't use the same one used by her dead former-best friend.

Makes sense 

Honestly, I can't think of a nickname for Miranda, other than "Miri".

I think Shepard will just stick with calling her Miranda. After all, she calls him "Shepard", not "Shep". Besides, "Miranda" is a pretty name and rolls right out.

Modifié par o Ventus, 08 avril 2012 - 12:59 .

[ThomGau]

I hope not kratos.
It would irritate her more than anything else and yeah Miranda is a nice name and rather uncommon, there's no need to change it.

Modifié par ThomGau, 08 avril 2012 - 01:01 .

[kookie28]

o Ventus wrote...

kratos0294 wrote...

o Ventus wrote...

kratos0294 wrote...

I wonder, through mass effect 2 and 3, does shepard ever call miranda miri?

Nope. And my Shepard never will. It's a professional thing. 

If he were to come up with a nickname for her, he wouldn't use the same one used by her dead former-best friend.

Makes sense 

Honestly, I can't think of a nickname for Miranda, other than "Miri".

I think Shepard will just stick with calling her Miranda. After all, she calls him "Shepard", not "Shep". Besides, "Miranda" is a pretty name and rolls right out.

Sometimes I call her "Babycakes." Don't judge me.

[Ieldra]

jtav wrote...
Yeah, I've got a pretty nice set up. Shepard's on his way back to life. Humanity ha neat tech capabilities. Civilization is rebuilding. What's not to like?

Nothing of course

And yes, that's my concern, too - that the Extended Cut will now screw with the headcanons of people who fixed the endings for themselves. But I don't think there'll be another as*pull. They'll go to some lengths to ground the closure in the story and the lore this time. I don't think there's much cause to worry. 

Modifié par Ieldra2, 08 avril 2012 - 01:03 .

[o Ventus]

kookie28 wrote...

Sometimes I call her "Babycakes." Don't judge me.

I pray for your sake that she isn't around to hear it.

[The Elder King]

Ieldra2 wrote...

jtav wrote...
Yeah, I've got a pretty nice set up. Shepard's on his way back to life. Humanity ha neat tech capabilities. Civilization is rebuilding. What's not to like?

Nothing of course

And yes, that's my concern, too - that the Extended Cut will now screw with the headcanons of people who fixed the endings for themselves. But I don't think there'll be another as*pull. They'll go to some lengths to ground the closure in the story and the lore this time. I don't think there's much cause to worry. 

It depends on "how" they'll close the story and the lore.
Considering that a lof of people want a new ending or a huge change from what we got in the game, I think there's a lot of chances that a lot of people will be disappointed about the Extended Cut.
I'd be fine with some additional dialogue with the Starchild and more content in the epilogue (even as it was done in DAO would be fine) that will somehow explain the differences between the three choices. But a lot of people want more, and I think they'll be disappointed.

[o Ventus]

hhh89 wrote...

Ieldra2 wrote...

jtav wrote...
Yeah, I've got a pretty nice set up. Shepard's on his way back to life. Humanity ha neat tech capabilities. Civilization is rebuilding. What's not to like?

Nothing of course

And yes, that's my concern, too - that the Extended Cut will now screw with the headcanons of people who fixed the endings for themselves. But I don't think there'll be another as*pull. They'll go to some lengths to ground the closure in the story and the lore this time. I don't think there's much cause to worry. 

It depends on "how" they'll close the story and the lore.
Considering that a lof of people want a new ending or a huge change from what we got in the game, I think there's a lot of chances that a lot of people will be disappointed about the Extended Cut.
I'd be fine with some additional dialogue with the Starchild and more content in the epilogue (even as it was done in DAO would be fine) that will somehow explain the differences between the three choices. But a lot of people want more, and I think they'll be disappointed.

If they decide to just handwave away Shepard being disintegrated with Lazarus 2.0, I'll be... perturbed, to put it lightly.

[Prudii Aden]

Ieldra2 wrote...

jtav wrote...
Yeah, I've got a pretty nice set up. Shepard's on his way back to life. Humanity ha neat tech capabilities. Civilization is rebuilding. What's not to like?

Nothing of course

And yes, that's my concern, too - that the Extended Cut will now screw with the headcanons of people who fixed the endings for themselves. But I don't think there'll be another as*pull. They'll go to some lengths to ground the closure in the story and the lore this time. I don't think there's much cause to worry. 

They've got their work cut out for them, that's for sure, but I think that they realise this - which is always a start. The other part of the problem is that they can't change too much or it'll make their constant harping on about "artistic integrity" look invalid or worse.

Still, I think it has sunk in how much rides on this - it's not just the Mass Effect brand that has been damaged by the ending (damaging the prospects for that Mass Effect movie ), but the Bioware brand and associated products, like Dragon Age 3, which have taken a kicking.

[kookie28]

o Ventus wrote...

kookie28 wrote...

Sometimes I call her "Babycakes." Don't judge me.

I pray for your sake that she isn't around to hear it.

It's fine. She's cute when she's mad. Remember the renegade kiss?

[o Ventus]

kookie28 wrote...

o Ventus wrote...

kookie28 wrote...

Sometimes I call her "Babycakes." Don't judge me.

I pray for your sake that she isn't around to hear it.

It's fine. She's cute when she's mad. Remember the renegade kiss?

She wasn't really mad there though. Just mildly flustered that Shepard was in control of the situation, as opposed to herself.

[The Elder King]

Prudii Aden wrote...



Still, I think it has sunk in how much rides on this - it's not just the Mass Effect brand that has been damaged by the ending (damaging the prospects for that Mass Effect movie ), but the Bioware brand and associated products, like Dragon Age 3, which have taken a kicking.

While I didn't like much DA2, I'm still interested in DA3, because of the Mage-Templar war, which I wanted since DAO.
Though I'll wait to buy after the release, so that I can choose if I'm going to give money too Bioware or not.

o Ventus wrote...

hhh89 wrote...


It depends on "how" they'll close the story and the lore.
Considering
that a lof of people want a new ending or a huge change from what we
got in the game, I think there's a lot of chances that a lot of people
will be disappointed about the Extended Cut.
I'd be fine with some
additional dialogue with the Starchild and more content in the epilogue
(even as it was done in DAO would be fine) that will somehow explain the
differences between the three choices. But a lot of people want more,
and I think they'll be disappointed.

If they decide to just handwave away Shepard being disintegrated with Lazarus 2.0, I'll be... perturbed, to put it lightly.

I doubt that they'll do something like that. From what they said (even in the FAQ about the extended cut) they want to add content to the endings, not change them.
I'm not a fan of the Lazarus Project (despite the fact Miranda was the head of the project) and it's probably the thing I didn't like most in ME2. I'm not sure if I want to see it again.

Modifié par hhh89, 08 avril 2012 - 01:42 .

[kookie28]

o Ventus wrote...

kookie28 wrote...

o Ventus wrote...

kookie28 wrote...

Sometimes I call her "Babycakes." Don't judge me.

I pray for your sake that she isn't around to hear it.

It's fine. She's cute when she's mad. Remember the renegade kiss?

She wasn't really mad there though. Just mildly flustered that Shepard was in control of the situation, as opposed to herself.

I could argue that giving her a pet name would work the same way. But for now it's all . . .

SPECULATIONS.

[jtav]

I'd prefer the possibility of resurrection to having it happen on screen. Like what I'm writing or the high-EMS Control in the fanmade slides.

[The Elder King]

I have a question about the Normandy crash. I read that after the crash the two companions with the highest friendship will come out the Normandy. In my playthrough (Miranda's romance) Joker, EDI and Javik came out. Why didn't another squadmate came out? It's because EDI is supposed to be the first or the second in the friendship's rank, or because there's a bug on that scene?
Though I still wonder why Javik came out. I though Garrus, Tali or Liara should've come out (maybe Liara died in the last part of the mission, but Javik was in the mission too, and he came out, so I doubt that she died and Javik not).

Modifié par hhh89, 08 avril 2012 - 01:49 .

[o Ventus]

jtav wrote...

I'd prefer the possibility of resurrection to having it happen on screen. Like what I'm writing or the high-EMS Control in the fanmade slides.

I'd rather it not happen. Or be plausible. Why?

The main character is dead. Let the guy rest in peace. He already did his deeds and payed for his consequences. Besides, he was turned from flesh and bone and skin, to ash and dust. Not much to salvage. They may as well be just *poof* creating new humans out of thin air with fairy water at that point.

[The Elder King]

o Ventus wrote...

jtav wrote...

I'd prefer the possibility of resurrection to having it happen on screen. Like what I'm writing or the high-EMS Control in the fanmade slides.

I'd rather it not happen. Or be plausible. Why?

The main character is dead. Let the guy rest in peace. He already did his deeds and payed for his consequences. Besides, he was turned from flesh and bone and skin, to ash and dust. Not much to salvage. They may as well be just *poof* creating new humans out of thin air with fairy water at that point.

I doubt that there's a way to make Shepard's return after Control or Synthesis as "plausible", if you don't think that Lazarus was plausible.

[hot_heart]

The only way to consider the Lazarus Project is that it was a complete exception and unrepeatable.

Otherwise you've got people wondering why there's no cure to Kepral's Syndrome, Ardat-Yakshi 'disease' or whatever Miranda's infertility is.

I get the feeling the death of Shepard in ME2 was just considered a cool hook without thought about the proper implications. But it gave us Miranda, so we'll call it quits...

[The Elder King]

hot_heart wrote...

The only way to consider the Lazarus Project is that it was a complete exception and unrepeatable.

Otherwise you've got people wondering why there's no cure to Kepral's Syndrome, Ardat-Yakshi 'disease' or whatever Miranda's infertility is.

I get the feeling the death of Shepard in ME2 was just considered a cool hook without thought about the proper implications. But it gave us Miranda, so we'll call it quits...

Well, it will be probably difficult to do it again. Consider that billions of credits were put on the project, and that it's unlikely that someone will spend that aumont of resources again to bring back Shepard. I mean, the galaxy is (more or less) safe. There's no need to bring back Shepard. People die during war.
Considering the need to rebuilt (because even with a high EMS score Earth and human colonies suffered a lof of damage, as well as the Turians and the Asari. The Quarians should focus on their homeworld. The Krogans don't have the resources to do it, and I don't think the Salarian will be willing to use their resources for bringing back Shepard), I don't think they should focus on bringing back Shepard. There are more important things to do.
About the various diseases, I think that the Miranda's infertility (which was an idiotic thing to make in the first place) should be curable. The human medicine was able to make Joker survive the Vrolik's Syndrome. Infertility, in most of the cases, should been easy to cure in the ME universe.
About the Kepral's Syndrome, the Hanar are developing a cure, and the Syndrome will be cured in a few years. The problem is that Thane doesn't have the time (though they could've done something different in ME3).
About the Ardat-Yakshi disease, I don't know. We don't know much about it, with the exception of being related to pureblood.

Modifié par hhh89, 08 avril 2012 - 02:14 .

[CuseGirl]

PlumPaul82393 wrote...

o Ventus wrote...I certainly don't. They're bothering with free glorified extended cutscenes and mutliplayer DLC.

Even though *everyone* complaining about the endings want entirely new ones.

I'm generally fine with the endings we have (though heavy "clarification" is needed). All Bioware has to do is have an ending where Shepard goes out with their LI and most of the people who hate the endings will praise them. 

Well I wouldn't praise them (anything that includes Starchild and the notion of the synthesis ending as "perfect" is a bad idea IMO). But when I first popped in ME-3, I had it firmly in my mind that I was gonna kill the Reapers, slap 5's with my squadmates and then go BE with Miranda (kiss, hug, embrace, whatever). Why they felt the need to do EXACTLY what fans didn't want, I don't kno.