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[Krimson_Wolf]

here's something you will enjoy

[Melra]

I am pretty sure that has been posted already, still nice though.

Modifié par Melrache, 14 juillet 2011 - 05:50 .

[OrumRod]

strive wrote...

I have my suspicions about why Miranda doesn't show that aspect in the game: can you imagine the nerdrage among fans of a certain type had Miranda aimed her charms at someone else but Shepard, no matter that it would've qualified as hostile action? Even more had it happened before any hint of a romance between them? People get incredibly stupid when it comes to sex

Word, and it is a damn shame.

I've seen threads were people are upset/jealous about Jacob's presence and past relationship with her. And some go as far not to romance her just because of that. It is pretty ridiculous how fragile people's egos can be over fictional characters.

Or if she had engaged someone in a conversation, charming with subtle movements and innuendo, only to steal a keycard from his pocket while his whole attention was on her

That would of been wonderful to see. I kind of hope the DA:2 companion option on the dialogue wheel makes an appearance in Mass Effect. It would be nice to hand situations over to squadmembers, rather than Shepard being at the focal point of every conflict.

As for a femme fatale scene -- I would of like to seen Miranda charm Elias Kelham. Maybe catch him in the Darkstar Lounge flirt/give him a few drinks, and then get the tip on who he is going to assassinate.

The use of seduction would be great but not only for Miri also for Shepard, i mean what kind of girl wouldn't be interested on THE commander Shepard. So there could be really nice jelousy scenes in ME3 that would make feel the romances more real.
I mean not necessarily Shepard being flirty but females hitting on Shepard and if your LI is there with you i'd love to see some reaction.

[whywhywhywhy]

Krimson_Wolf wrote...

here's something you will enjoy

ROFL

[Prudii Aden]

Hey jtav, if we're including stuff on the OP, why not Lux's fic?

[jtav]

I don't consider that a Miranda story per se, but more of a Shep-centric ensemble piece where she happens to play the role of love interest.

[Prudii Aden]

It's still a good story that has Miranda in a fairly prominent place.

[LuxDragon]

[MASSEFFECTfanforlife101]

Krimson_Wolf wrote...

here's something you will enjoy

OH YYYYEEEEAAAAHHHH:wub::wub:

Modifié par MASSEFFECTfanforlife101, 14 juillet 2011 - 10:13 .

[Arijharn]

jtav wrote...

I don't consider that a Miranda story per se, but more of a Shep-centric ensemble piece where she happens to play the role of love interest.

That's a shame, because it's the best one imo.

I think saying that she 'just happens to play the role of love interest' while truthful, is more than just a bit dismissive. Perhaps Lux can correct me if I'm wrong but I think in a way the Miranda in that story helps humanize Shephard perhaps more than otherwise... and I like the 'tension' (although there isn't nearly enough there ) that Shephard and Miranda make while trying to hide the fact they're in a relationship... despite the fact that seemingly everyone bar the ones that are actually interested in Shephard seem to realise anyway.

The only problems I have with the story myself are:
• Correspondence chapters (RWOARRRR! - I'm convinced Lux does it deliberately now because he knows it annoys at least one reader... who otherwise can't stop reading his fanfic )
• Miscellaneous breaks in 'character' - Just some earlier scenes have an added mix of joviality to them in a situation where I don't think it calls for it because the area might be a bit 'dangerous.' Ideally Shephard should treat any engagement with Eclipse mercenaires as if it is as dangerous as an engagement with Collector forces.
• Shephard probably doesn't kick as much ass as he should!

And hopefully, they're going to save the CB as well (*jedi mind trick on Lux*) for purely pragmatic reasons.

@Ieldra, I can't fulfill your request is that there isn't one piece of 'evidence' that persuaded me otherwise, it's a combination of unlikely timeframes that made me think that there is something a bit 'off' about the whole situation. I find it a bit hard to believe that we got all this information from the Prothean relay's about Mass Effect fields etc, but nothing about Biotics which is probably one of the most startling offshoots from the study of it. My theory is basically that Miranda and the concepts of her in-utero exposure was the springboard on which the Alliance and Cerberus started their mass experiments because they saw the success of her birth etc. 
There is no proof, just a gut-feeling for the preference of something 'dark' and 'drama' to inhabit it's place, therefore I think it's more fun.

Modifié par Arijharn, 15 juillet 2011 - 02:12 .

[Vertigo_1]

Anyone else see the Invasion preview?

I just saw it.

Some captions:



"While the Grayson affair soured relations between the prohuman movement Cerberus and Omega's self-proclaimed leader, Aria T'loak was never one to let a personal grudge stand in the way of profit."

"With Cerberus establishing research bases beyond the Omega-4 Mass Relay, Aria saw a chance for Omega to become a supply hub"

Apparently Cerberus created husks board one of their convoy ships and invade Omega.

One more thing to note: This comic is being promoted as the prelude to ME3.

Thoughts: This comic may be one way to make the SM decision less meaningful since these events (Cerberus establishing a presence beyond the Omega-4 relay and the comics as a whole) happen regardless of the choice to keep the base or not.

I have this feeling that it would end up making Miranda leave Cerberus regardless for ME3.  Would she stay in Cerberus if you kept the base and this happens?

Modifié par Vertigo_1, 15 juillet 2011 - 02:09 .

[Arijharn]

You know, every time one of these comics comes out it gets harder to approach Cerberus with a hint of rationalism. Like; "Look, Cerberus is a black ops organisation, no one really knows if they exist or not because they are secret" is getting harder and harder to say when they show up in Omega wearing their company uniform and apparently even thugs on Omega know that they're Cerberus...

I mean, you'd think that with this sort of behavior it would be easy for law enforcement to smash because all their operatives seem to like wearing it. Hell, that uniform has to be manufactured somewhere couldn't they just trail it to the pickup point and nab everyone?

What's next? Cerberus PR team. Marketing? Extranet advertising?

And oh look; Cerberus experiments with Reaper technologies go wrong. Again. Are they (Cerberus teams/Mac Walters) even trying anymore? Isn't this getting too formulaic now?

Yep, I'm ranting now. Sorry.

As to your question though, it depends on whether the info 'gets out' because Cerberus tries to keep things otherwise compartmentalized (although apparently anyone with an Extranet... nvm). I would like to think though that Miranda can differentiate between a decision and an unforeseen consequence of it.

[Vertigo_1]

Arijharn wrote...

You know, every time one of these comics comes out it gets harder to approach Cerberus with a hint of rationalism. Like; "Look, Cerberus is a black ops organisation, no one really knows if they exist or not because they are secret" is getting harder and harder to say when they show up in Omega wearing their company uniform and apparently even thugs on Omega know that they're Cerberus...

I mean, you'd think that with this sort of behavior it would be easy for law enforcement to smash because all their operatives seem to like wearing it. Hell, that uniform has to be manufactured somewhere couldn't they just trail it to the pickup point and nab everyone?

What's next? Cerberus PR team. Marketing? Extranet advertising?

And oh look; Cerberus experiments with Reaper technologies go wrong. Again. Are they (Cerberus teams/Mac Walters) even trying anymore? Isn't this getting too formulaic now?

Yep, I'm ranting now. Sorry.

As to your question though, it depends on whether the info 'gets out' because Cerberus tries to keep things otherwise compartmentalized (although apparently anyone with an Extranet... nvm). I would like to think though that Miranda can differentiate between a decision and an unforeseen consequence of it.

We don't know who the thugs at the beginning were.  They could have overheard something regarding Cerberus from one of the guards guarding their docking bay.  The thugs shown latter on were Aria's guards.  One of them being Anto (from ME2).

Also Miranda knew about the Cerberus incident with the Flotilla, I wouldn't be surprised if she knew about Omega.
Something as big as Omega being attacked wouldn't go unnoticed.

This is just how I see it though

Modifié par Vertigo_1, 15 juillet 2011 - 03:24 .

[LuxDragon]

Arijharn wrote...

jtav wrote...

I don't consider that a Miranda story per se, but more of a Shep-centric ensemble piece where she happens to play the role of love interest.

That's a shame, because it's the best one imo.

I think saying that she 'just happens to play the role of love interest' while truthful, is more than just a bit dismissive. Perhaps Lux can correct me if I'm wrong but I think in a way the Miranda in that story helps humanize Shephard perhaps more than otherwise... and I like the 'tension' (although there isn't nearly enough there ) that Shephard and Miranda make while trying to hide the fact they're in a relationship... despite the fact that seemingly everyone bar the ones that are actually interested in Shephard seem to realise anyway.

The only problems I have with the story myself are:
• Correspondence chapters (RWOARRRR! - I'm convinced Lux does it deliberately now because he knows it annoys at least one reader... who otherwise can't stop reading his fanfic )
• Miscellaneous breaks in 'character' - Just some earlier scenes have an added mix of joviality to them in a situation where I don't think it calls for it because the area might be a bit 'dangerous.' Ideally Shephard should treat any engagement with Eclipse mercenaires as if it is as dangerous as an engagement with Collector forces.
• Shephard probably doesn't kick as much ass as he should!

And hopefully, they're going to save the CB as well (*jedi mind trick on Lux*) for purely pragmatic reasons.

@Ieldra, I can't fulfill your request is that there isn't one piece of 'evidence' that persuaded me otherwise, it's a combination of unlikely timeframes that made me think that there is something a bit 'off' about the whole situation. I find it a bit hard to believe that we got all this information from the Prothean relay's about Mass Effect fields etc, but nothing about Biotics which is probably one of the most startling offshoots from the study of it. My theory is basically that Miranda and the concepts of her in-utero exposure was the springboard on which the Alliance and Cerberus started their mass experiments because they saw the success of her birth etc. 
There is no proof, just a gut-feeling for the preference of something 'dark' and 'drama' to inhabit it's place, therefore I think it's more fun.

Trust me, there's going to be tension very, very soon now. Hiding things can only work for so long before they need to be addressed.

As for the CB... I already wrote that up a while ago. You'll either like it or you won't (That statement has more meanings behind it than you think! )

[MASSEFFECTfanforlife101]

I don't know about anyone else, but I'm L<3VIN that picture of Miri.:wub::wub:

Modifié par MASSEFFECTfanforlife101, 15 juillet 2011 - 03:14 .

[pj179]

@strive I totally agree - I would love to see Miranda use her femme fatale aspect in ME3, providing that she is a squad member. Which, come on, she HAS to be! Talking about nerdrage, can you imagine the hate Bioware would get from all of the people who post on this thread if she just makes a cameo appearance in ME3?

[MASSEFFECTfanforlife101]

pj179 wrote...

@strive I totally agree - I would love to see Miranda use her femme fatale aspect in ME3, providing that she is a squad member. Which, come on, she HAS to be! Talking about nerdrage, can you imagine the hate Bioware would get from all of the people who post on this thread if she just makes a cameo appearance in ME3?

Yeah, it would be like BioWare giving us a big middle finger if they make Miri a cameo. 

[Arijharn]

Yay chapter 52 of LuxDragon's fanfic is up!

[Ieldra]

pj179 wrote...
@strive I totally agree - I would love to see Miranda use her femme fatale aspect in ME3, providing that she is a squad member. Which, come on, she HAS to be! Talking about nerdrage, can you imagine the hate Bioware would get from all of the people who post on this thread if she just makes a cameo appearance in ME3?

I don't think that's very likely. A more plausible - but almost as bad - scenario is that she'll be relegated to a one-mission-plus-the-endgame presence. I'd be very pissed-off if that happens. I don't want her to be with me all the time, since that would make her nothing more but Shepard's follower, and I want her to have an impact on the big picture, but I'll not be content with anything less than having her with me for about half of the game. It's not just the missions. She needs opportunities to interact with others on the team.

BTW....I need to offset that dreadful picture up there....

Modifié par Ieldra2, 15 juillet 2011 - 05:56 .

[MASSEFFECTfanforlife101]

Ieldra2 wrote...

I L<3VE this one too.:wub::wub:

[Jebel Krong]

Vertigo_1 wrote...

Anyone else see the Invasion preview?

I just saw it.

Some captions:



"While the Grayson affair soured relations between the prohuman movement Cerberus and Omega's self-proclaimed leader, Aria T'loak was never one to let a personal grudge stand in the way of profit."

"With Cerberus establishing research bases beyond the Omega-4 Mass Relay, Aria saw a chance for Omega to become a supply hub"

Apparently Cerberus created husks board one of their convoy ships and invade Omega.

so... basically as **** as the other comics and all but the first book. *sigh* BW's quality control of this franchise has been awful for anything reliant on external partners.  <_<

it also sounds like, whilst it may be a prelude for ME3, it will probably not feature much in the main game because it's simply another "cerberus experiment goes wrong" scenario that we did to death in ME1 and just makes them look incompetent. again. it also means that the enemies might be collector/prothean husk-types, but not a game-enemy type then, so no big reveal ahead of time there (surprise surprise).

would Miranda go back to that? - no.

[JosephDucreux]

Everytime I see Cerberus portrayed by Mac Walters, it's always like Cerberus is jumping up and down screaming: "HAY GUIZE WE'RE CERBERUS! WE'RE TOTALLY EVIL TERRORISTS WHO LIKE EXPERIMENTING ON ALIENS AND OTHER HUMANS IN TOTALLY GRUESOME WAYS! OH, WE HATE ALIENS TOO! AND BEFORE WE FORGET, WE'RE A COVERT OPS GROUP YOU SHOULDN'T KNOW ABOUT! KTHXBAI!"

Thus, I'm always doing these two things whenever I see Cerberus portrayed like this.

[Jebel Krong]

always liked this image, not commonly posted:

cr: mehdic

[Jebel Krong]

cr: draghignazzo

[Sshodan]

I always liked Miranda, so I just wanted to add something to that wish list - we will obviously have to take down majority of Cerberus and TIM, what I would like to see in an option for Miranda to pick up the pieces and rebuild Cerberus in all it's glory, but I bit less of crazy.
Let's face it - Shep is only alive because someone skipped the rules and did what have to be done, there are always things that have to be done but are not exactly right while you do them - crogan geno****e, human biotics and so on. If Cerberus does not do them the Alliance will have to mare their hands which will be politically disadvantageous
So in my opinion Cerberus has to take a seriuose blow, but there should be an option to preserve it, and if we do - make sure that Miranda is the one controlling it - she has the brains for that, the mindset and the understanding.