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[hot_heart]

I could see her being restless and constantly moving around the ship, rubbing people the wrong way wherever she went.

[flemm]

TheMarshal wrote...

Weekes is involved with the Extended Cut?

...iiiiiiiiinteresting...

He and Dombrow have been mentioned most in connection with it.

That might partly be because their stock is pretty high now with fans, while Walters and Hudson are being demonized. But anyway, it seems like a good bet. He's also been quite responsive to fans in general, is very active on twitter and seems interested in the PAX fan book.

Modifié par flemm, 11 avril 2012 - 09:33 .

[jtav]

She could have been ME3's Jack. Now there's an opportunity for character development.

[flemm]

jtav wrote...

She could have been ME3's Jack. Now there's an opportunity for character development.

Yes, Miranda being somewhat alienated from the crew, stranger in a strange land all of a sudden, could have been really interesting.

[TheMarshal]

flemm wrote...

He and Dombrow have been mentioned most in connection with it.

That might partly be because their stock is pretty high now with fans, while Walters and Hudson are being demonized. But anyway, it seems like a good bet. He's also been quite responsive to fans in general, is very active on twitter and seems interested in the PAX fan book.

If I recall, Weekes was responsible for LotSB, which at the very least had very smart writing dialogue-wise.  Not sure how he'd fare with plot-crafting (sorry, "clarification") but I'd feel comfortable betting on that horse.

[jtav]

And, just to rub salt in the wound, she used to be 2IC and now she's here on Shepard's sufferance. I say she absolutely cannot have her quarters back just to drive that home. It would require making a new area, but I would convert the brig into makeshift living quarters and have Miranda very aware that it used to be the brig. She hates being here, hates being reminded of how wrong she was and how much he lost.

[cbutz]

Lets see how do I think they would interact...
Garrus: Probably the same as ME 2. Doesn't like her but respects her. If LI, "if Shepard trusts you trust you kind of deal."
Tali: Same as Garrus, maybe even less. After Sanctuary maybe will like each other a bit.
James: Will hit on her at first, then maybe like erh due to her no nonsense attitude
Javik: Could go either way. he would respect her ruthlessness but would eh approve of the way she was created?
Joker: I think he would actually like having her. Remember , he is one of the few ME 3 squad mates that ask if she is okay.
Ken: would love having her back.
Ashley/Kaiden: would not like her, especially Ashley (fire/Ice clash)
EDI: Worked well before why not now. Miranda would probably be over the unshackled AI by now.
Liara: would like having her there, they worked together before.

Those who worked with her before would accept her there. remember , they may not like her, but they respect her and know she is a good leader.

Actually I think she would be fine. Yea she may not get along with a few, but I think it may be better overall, excluding the Alliance crewmates (not squadmates)

[Obvakhi]

 

Miranda's ass says 'hi'. It feels lonely and says that you guys have been ignoring it.

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[jtav]

And I think she and Traynor would get along through sheer geek power.

[CuseGirl]

jtav wrote...

And, just to rub salt in the wound, she used to be 2IC and now she's here on Shepard's sufferance. I say she absolutely cannot have her quarters back just to drive that home. It would require making a new area, but I would convert the brig into makeshift living quarters and have Miranda very aware that it used to be the brig. She hates being here, hates being reminded of how wrong she was and how much he lost.

Wait a minute, why are we rubbing salt in a Miranda wound? lolll

[yesikareyes]

CuseGirl wrote...

jtav wrote...

And, just to rub salt in the wound, she used to be 2IC and now she's here on Shepard's sufferance. I say she absolutely cannot have her quarters back just to drive that home. It would require making a new area, but I would convert the brig into makeshift living quarters and have Miranda very aware that it used to be the brig. She hates being here, hates being reminded of how wrong she was and how much he lost.

Wait a minute, why are we rubbing salt in a Miranda wound? lolll

Because we like rubbing 

Okay, that came out wrong 

Yeah, why are we talking about making Miranda sad?

[Td1984]

Skullheart wrote...

jtav wrote...

And for all we know, she just wears one.

Here's a discussion topic: pretend Miranda had joined you during that first conversation. How does she get along with the rest of your squad? Where would she stay--and no, the captain's quarters is not a valid answer.

I think Garrus, Liara and Javik will trust her, but the rest of the crew will be suspicous about her. And a place to stay, in her room and good bye to Liara. Liara will be more valuable with the crucible team (Miss prothean expert) and let Miranda handle the SB network (20 years working as an operative).

This makes sense. Sounds good to me.

[jtav]

Because characters that are in pain are characters that are in conflict, which are characters that grow.

[Nightwriter]

Pain isn't the only means for growth. I wouldn't want to spend a whole game with a Miranda whose resentment overshadows much of her content (and incidentally much of Shepard and Miranda's relationship).

[jtav]

No, but it's great fun as long as you don't let it overshadow light or romantic moments and there's an Act 3 payoff where she overcomes what's giving her trouble. So, yes, I'd love making Miranda suffer.

[CuseGirl]

jtav wrote...

Because characters that are in pain are characters that are in conflict, which are characters that grow.

The part I'm not getting is how you were like "remind her how wrong she was", wrong about what?

[MASSEFFECTfanforlife101]

Obvakhi wrote...

 

Miranda's ass says 'hi'. It feels lonely and says that you guys have been ignoring it.

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O.O....<3

[flemm]

Nightwriter wrote...

Pain isn't the only means for growth. I wouldn't want to spend a whole game with a Miranda whose resentment overshadows much of her content (and incidentally much of Shepard and Miranda's relationship).

It's true. That said, one of the reasons why Miranda brings more to the table as a squad member than anyone else is because she provides more tension than anyone else.

It's similar to why Jack is a more meaningful member of the crew in ME2 than, say, Thane. She changes the dynamic. Thane himself is a deep character, with a lot going on, but he isn't tied to the situation as anything other than a hired gun, essentially.

So, having Miranda around in ME3 would be intrinsically more interesting than someone who provides no such tension, however it would be handled exactly.

The squad in ME3 is not really built that way, though, unfortunately. There is some tension with the VS, but otherwise basically everyone is just along for the ride. So, that's why Miranda isn't there, but it's also why her presence would have been desirable.

The way the game is written, I don't think Miranda joining up right away would make sense, but from Sanctuary to TIM's base, it would make sense without any larger adjustments.

[yesikareyes]

MASSEFFECTfanforlife101 wrote...

Obvakhi wrote...

 

Miranda's ass says 'hi'. It feels lonely and says that you guys have been ignoring it.

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O.O....<3

Love this!

[jorune24]

Hello everyone, longtime lurker first-time poster.

I was just thinking for s**ts & giggles about imagining how Miranda would work as a squadmate gameplay-wise in ME3 as I found her the most versatile in ME2. All ME3 squadmates have 4 powers in addition to class power so I personally reckon she would have Warp and Overload (obviously) with her class power called something like Cerberus Renegade which would give choices at higher levels to increase squad health, shields, weapon damage and/or power damage etc.

As for her other two powers I think one biotic and one tech would fit with her sentinal build and I personally like the symbolism of my favourite "Ice-queen" having Cryo-blast as a power along with Barrier instead of having another squadmate with Slam, but Pull would also be nice for crowd-control.

So... Thoughts?

[dtrain24]

Hey guys, new here. I've been lurking for awhile, and I've finally been able to get my account working here. You all seem like a pretty cool group of guys. Obviously, I fit the main criteria here: I love Miranda's character.
I guess I'll give how I came to like Miranda:
Basically, in Mass Effect 1, I romanced Ashley, and thought she was alright, and some of her positive aspects overshadowed the negative ones.
But when I started playing Mass Effect 2, I was wondering whether to give Miranda a shot or stay with Ash. First time I saw Miranda's character and had Shepard talk to her, I loved her character from the get-go. Horizon was simply more of a reason to steer clear of Ashley. Obviously, I romanced Miri in Mass Effect 3.
So yeah, thats my story. It's nice to finally get to know you all!

[Ares91]

dtrain24 wrote...

Hey guys, new here. I've been lurking for awhile, and I've finally been able to get my account working here. You all seem like a pretty cool group of guys. Obviously, I fit the main criteria here: I love Miranda's character.
I guess I'll give how I came to like Miranda:
Basically, in Mass Effect 1, I romanced Ashley, and thought she was alright, and some of her positive aspects overshadowed the negative ones.
But when I started playing Mass Effect 2, I was wondering whether to give Miranda a shot or stay with Ash. First time I saw Miranda's character and had Shepard talk to her, I loved her character from the get-go. Horizon was simply more of a reason to steer clear of Ashley. Obviously, I romanced Miri in Mass Effect 3.
So yeah, thats my story. It's nice to finally get to know you all!

Wow just add in the fact that I love the actress that does Miranda *Yvonne strahovski* and you just summed me up like 100% lol.

Im glad Im not the only one who jumped ship to Miranda right after Horizon. I mean I was already leaning that way but after Ash wanted noting to do with me I was like "Screw you then, Im going to Miranda!" And Ive never made a better choice in MassEffect.

[Skullheart]

A quick question to everybody: Did you like, love or hate Miranda hen you firs meet her?

I hated her.

[dtrain24]

Ares91 wrote...

Wow just add in the fact that I love the actress that does Miranda *Yvonne strahovski* and you just summed me up like 100% lol.

Im glad Im not the only one who jumped ship to Miranda right after Horizon. I mean I was already leaning that way but after Ash wanted noting to do with me I was like "Screw you then, Im going to Miranda!" And Ive never made a better choice in MassEffect.

I forgot to mention that part.
Yvonne did an unbelievable job with Miranda. And your second paragraph was basically my mind set. Horizon basically just justified my choice.

[jtav]

A teaser, if I may.

Miranda stepped back. “Alive again?” Her mind fractured and reassembled as she struggled to make sense of it. Matt her mind. He had entered her the way he entered the computers at the lab or his copy of PaintWorks. He had taken her senses and made them his own. She looked over at Wreav’s crumpled form. The Illusive Man had always dreamed of control, whether of rachni worth Reapers, but he had never managed anything like this. It was as far beyond Henry's work at Sanctuary as a flashlight was beyond a candle. "You can… you can kill anyone with just a thought. Read minds.”

But Matt didn't seem to hear her. "Every time you took a breath, it was like my own lungs were filling up. Not just the way I make this hologram pretend to breathe. The real thing."

“Matt, focus! You just killed someone with your mind.”

He sobered at that, but his gaze was cold. "I'm not sorry the bastard's gone. If I had needed him, I would have left him to rot on Tuchanka. He was going to hurt you. I couldn't let that happen. And I killed lots of people with my mind when I had biotics. This really isn’t that different, is it?"

“Yes, it's different. There are limits to biotics, countermeasures that can be put in place to neutralize them when necessary. Including other biotics. I still don't know what your limits are. You felt me breathe. You put a thought in my head. If Henry ever had that kind of power, I never would have gotten free."

His eyes narrowed. "I'm not Henry. I'd never hurt you. I—“ he swallowed. "I care about you too much. Yeah, I was in your head. But I wouldn’t do mind control or anything.”

Miranda frowned. How to make him see? "Do you remember what you said to me when I told you about the chip?”

Matt gave her a slight, embarrassed frown of his own. "I, er, told you that I would have thrown you out the nearest airlock if it had been anyone else. Think there might have been a few comparisons to batarians in there.”

“More than a few. I suppose I could have done dozens of terrible things. Made you my slave. I could have made you act exactly as if you were still in love with me. And inside your own head, you would have been screaming. But none of that even crossed my mind. All I wanted was a way to keep you under control in case you woke up as some kind of raging beast. But all you could see is what I could do." She sighed. "You were right. I don't really want to think about facing the temptation. I’d have lost my temper at one of those stupidly risky decisions you made, and maybe I’d have slipped. Controlled you, not because you were a danger, but because I disagreed."

“And now…now I can do the same. To anyone.” There was no hope or wonder his eyes now. "You're afraid of me,” he said softly. “But you do have power. You can walk out the door. You can feel the wind in your hair. Miranda, you can, you can touch people. And I can’t touch you. All I am is a miserable ghost living off a memory of a memory of what it was like to hold you. And every day that memory gets a little bit fainter." He turned away, his shoulders hunched.

“Not a ghost, a god.” Memories popped up from the boxes that she had placed them in. "The only reason we ever met was because I hated being helpless. Not being able to get out of bed on my worst days. Having to plan my day down to the last detail because I couldn't afford to overtax myself. I thought the L3 would be the cure, that I would be master of my own fate and not just a slave to the pain. But it turns out you're the master."

"I've seen you helpless, Miranda. And I helped you when you needed it. Nothing's changed." He made an odd sound, a low, metallic groan. “And besides, lots of gods fell in love with humans."

"And that usually didn't turn out too well for the human." She gave a short, bitter laugh. "I can manage being a synthetic-organic hybrid, but I draw the line at being turned into a tree."

"It worked out okay for Cupid and Psyche."

"Doesn't count. She got turned into a goddess herself, remember?"

Matt rounded on her suddenly, his eyes filled with the same manic energy as when he conceived of a particularly ambitious painting. "Then I'll have to make you a goddess, then, won't I? Or find a way to become mortal." And with that, he was gone.