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"I'll always want you in my life." Miranda Lawson in Mass Effect 3


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Haha really, what they did to xmen and spider man lately really disappoints me. I miss the good 90's xmen and things like the evil that men do (spiderman and black cat). Lately i've reading justice league because they actually do feel like jim lee's xmen. I've missed that. And they have Gail Simone, she is so made of win.
Anyway, give me back my favorite comics and Marvel will rule again. Also, Im a sucker for Terry Dodson's and Joe Mad's art. I guess that explains a lot about my drawings in the past five years.

But back on topic... I'm here whenever you guys need! I dunno if I said before, but I'll have some decent free time starting May.

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Heck, phone wont work on quoted posts anymore.
Hot_heart, lets talk about it! Who knows we can work something out? :D

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Would you guys like to help me brainstorm? What sort of positive and negative effects occur from having Miranda on the Normandy from Sanctum on?

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Positive:
1 Gonna be blunt here. We get to do it all night long lol.
2 Character dialogue: EDI, Ashley, and Tranyor are the 3 I'd think would be the most interesting.
3 Her biotic and passive abilities in combat.
4 She and Edi can discuss their fashion sense. Although this could go with #2
5 Helps the ShepMira relationship by having her there when Shepard breaks down after Thessia and after each of his nightmares.

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jtav wrote...

Would you guys like to help me brainstorm? What sort of positive and negative effects occur from having Miranda on the Normandy from Sanctum on?


Positive-

*Shepard gets to finally sit down and have an actual conversation with Miranda.
*Above, but with Oriana (Following Sanctuary).
*Romance continuation (Including pre-Cronos sex scene and pillow talk)
*Miranda can meet the new squad members. I'm sure she'd be interested in Javik.
*Check the Alliance's retrofits to the Normandy.
*Provide any new Cerberus intelligence to Shepard and EDI and Liara.
*Provide current opinion of Cerberus actions and morals.

Negatives-

*Alliance-centric crew would be wary of former Cerberus 2IC having free roam on the ship.
*Ashley and Tali in particular aren't fond of Miranda.
*The Alliance might not like a former Cerberus operative checking the tech on their state-of-the-art ship.
*Someone might pull the "She could still be with them" card.

She could probably take up the medbay or Life Support for her visit (I assume it isn't permanent). She could also replace Liara in some of the unnanounced cabin visits (Romance exclusive). Example, think about the time capsule scene. It isn't beyond belief that Miranda couldn't make a device similar to that (Probably better than Liara could, to be honest).

Modifié par o Ventus, 19 avril 2012 - 02:07 .


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I made some retrofits (By that, I meant I updated) to my story(s). Namely, Chapter 4 of Dead Men (It looks better now).

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Well, Miranda is very much not sleeping with Shepard here. They're colleagues, and Shepard cares enough to invoke Spectre status to get her on the Normandy, but both are otherwise occupied. I'm looking more for things like Miranda being ab;e to help Tarquin defuse the bomb or Kaidan refusing to trust Shep because the Cerberus 2IC is standing right there.

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I don't see how Miranda would be able to help Tarquin with the turian bomb. It was planted how many hundreds of years ago? I doubt she knows it exists, given her leaving Cerberus before they find it.

Anyway... She could easily take EDI's place at Cronos (Or come along to provide additional intel and explanation). Either of the VS' would certainly take some offense to her being on the ship, to which Shepard could just whip out his Spectre status. Instead of Miranda taking charge of the squadron of fighters, she could hand them to Hackett as a part of Sword (And probably salvage intact fighters from Cronos for Sword also).

Depending on what was salvageable from Sanctuary, she could try to recreate a husk-control signal for use on Earth. Hypothetically, she could also take a look at some of the implants Kai Leng had in his body and determine if anything is salvageable from him.

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o Ventus wrote...

I don't see how Miranda would be able to help Tarquin with the turian bomb. It was planted how many hundreds of years ago? I doubt she knows it exists, given her leaving Cerberus before they find it.

Anyway... She could easily take EDI's place at Cronos (Or come along to provide additional intel and explanation). Either of the VS' would certainly take some offense to her being on the ship, to which Shepard could just whip out his Spectre status. Instead of Miranda taking charge of the squadron of fighters, she could hand them to Hackett as a part of Sword (And probably salvage intact fighters from Cronos for Sword also).

Depending on what was salvageable from Sanctuary, she could try to recreate a husk-control signal for use on Earth. Hypothetically, she could also take a look at some of the implants Kai Leng had in his body and determine if anything is salvageable from him.

About Shep invoking his Spectre status to allow her on the ship, remember, the VS is now a Spectre also. 

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Td1984 wrote...

o Ventus wrote...

I don't see how Miranda would be able to help Tarquin with the turian bomb. It was planted how many hundreds of years ago? I doubt she knows it exists, given her leaving Cerberus before they find it.

Anyway... She could easily take EDI's place at Cronos (Or come along to provide additional intel and explanation). Either of the VS' would certainly take some offense to her being on the ship, to which Shepard could just whip out his Spectre status. Instead of Miranda taking charge of the squadron of fighters, she could hand them to Hackett as a part of Sword (And probably salvage intact fighters from Cronos for Sword also).

Depending on what was salvageable from Sanctuary, she could try to recreate a husk-control signal for use on Earth. Hypothetically, she could also take a look at some of the implants Kai Leng had in his body and determine if anything is salvageable from him.

About Shep invoking his Spectre status to allow her on the ship, remember, the VS is now a Spectre also. 


It's still Shepard's ship. It isn't like Ashley or Kaidan can just up and mutiny whenever they felt like it. He's the CO, regardless of rank (Not that it matters, since Spectre's only answer to the Council). To be frank, Ashley/Kaidan's Spectre status might not mean much, since it was granted by a man who just tried to take control of the Citadel and kill the Council.

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Honestly, I wonder just how much Shepard's Spectre Status really means. Much like with the VS, it was given as a means for the Council to make humanity stop complaining about the lack of assistance without actually having to do anything.

Oh right, this is the Miranda thread...well... hum...

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Was that a peek on the cheek or full blown on the lips?

#47287
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Cheek. She has to die for an actual kiss on the lips.

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She has to die for anything higher level than a peck on the cheek and some light hand-holding. Kiss? Kill her. Admission of feelings? Kill her.

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jtav wrote...

Would you guys like to help me brainstorm? What sort of positive and negative effects occur from having Miranda on the Normandy from Sanctum on?


First thing that came to mind was check his implants...I know Chakwas did so before (if you talked to her...not sure if Dr.Michel does this if she's there) but she's got first hand knowledge of what went into bringing Shepard back.

Others have mentioned various degrees of acceptance among the crew with her on board.  I definately see that, I mean there was a number of reactions to Legion being on board ('throw it out the airlock')

Also wanted to say how nice it is to see fanfic/fan-art/ongoing discussion from you guys.

(Haven't been on much lately too busy with work and finishing school)

Modifié par Vertigo_1, 19 avril 2012 - 03:09 .


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o Ventus wrote...

She has to die for anything higher level than a peck on the cheek and some light hand-holding. Kiss? Kill her. Admission of feelings? Kill her.


She failed the test of being blue and being Mac Walters favorite character
 

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See, that's just weird. I don't think it's OOC for Miranda to not be confortable with public displays of affection which are reserved for more intimate moments. The same thing applies to admissions of feeling, they are reserved for hopeless situations.
Except a peek on the cheek is a public display of affection. So, why not a kiss on the lips?

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MisterJB wrote...
Except a peek on the cheek is a public display of affection. So, why not a kiss on the lips?

Peck on the cheek is lower on the PDA meter than kiss on the lips :P

The way I see it, I think she's a bit shy expressing her feelings towards someone she loves in public (in private...that's another story :lol:).

Modifié par Vertigo_1, 19 avril 2012 - 03:51 .


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Totally Not Swaggacide wrote...

o Ventus wrote...

She has to die for anything higher level than a peck on the cheek and some light hand-holding. Kiss? Kill her. Admission of feelings? Kill her.


She failed the test of being blue and being Mac Walters favorite character
 


Okay, this made me laugh. 

#47294
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Sad part is, he's probably right.

I'll have my Liaramancer stick with Liara for the first playthrough, but if I do any more than one, I'll probably have her breakup with her for Samantha.

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o Ventus wrote...

It's still Shepard's ship. It isn't like Ashley or Kaidan can just up and mutiny whenever they felt like it. He's the CO, regardless of rank (Not that it matters, since Spectre's only answer to the Council). To be frank, Ashley/Kaidan's Spectre status might not mean much, since it was granted by a man who just tried to take control of the Citadel and kill the Council.


I agree.
After the coup the VS is also not in a position to tell Shepard who he should trust and who should be on the Normandy.

I wish Sanctuary mission takes place in the middle of the game, and then Miranda become a squadmate until the end.

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Yannkee wrote...

I agree.
After the coup the VS is also not in a position to tell Shepard who he should trust and who should be on the Normandy.

I wish Sanctuary mission takes place in the middle of the game, and then Miranda become a squadmate until the end.


Agreed as well. The political situation is really unstable at this point anyway. Priority is defeating Cerberus and then the Reapers. And MIranda can help with that as much as anyone, especially Cerberus. But ideally she would help with Cerberus in a way that would contribute directly to the final battle as well.

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flemm wrote...

Yannkee wrote...
I agree.
After the coup the VS is also not in a position to tell Shepard who he should trust and who should be on the Normandy.

I wish Sanctuary mission takes place in the middle of the game, and then Miranda become a squadmate until the end.


Agreed as well. The political situation is really unstable at this point anyway. Priority is defeating Cerberus and then the Reapers. And MIranda can help with that as much as anyone, especially Cerberus. But ideally she would help with Cerberus in a way that would contribute directly to the final battle as well.


Indeed - that's the other problem. The VS does seem to have lost sight of the end goal - in 2, it was (certainly from Kaidan's point of view, less so from Ash's) that while they did trust you, they didn't trust Cerberus, which was fair enough. In 3, they seem to have forgotten that the whole point of the fight was to defeat the Reapers, but they spend a lot of time snarking at Shepard - hell, even the Asari and Turian Councillors point out that trusting Shepard is a good idea in the confrontation at the end of the Coup.

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jtav wrote...
Would you guys like to help me brainstorm? What sort of positive and negative effects occur from having Miranda on the Normandy from Sanctum on?

Positive:
*Miranda is there for interaction. Potential for romance development and to talk to her about those things the game has discarded.
*Great potential for banter
*Potential team member
*Miranda may have Cerberus-related information

Negative:
*Miranda can't act independently
*Distrust of the crew and some of the team members.
*Alliance brass may keep important information from Shepard because she's on board.

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LIA Project 2: The Tribute is really coming together. But we still need help!
We're gathering letters, fanart and screenshots and sending it to Bioware, to show our appreciation of the characters and the desire for additional romantic content. Please see this thread for more details:

http://social.biowar.../index/11315889

Letter Contributions


ShepxThane: 9
ShepxMiranda: 6


ShepxJacob: 2
ShepxSamara: 5
ShepxJack: 1
ShepxKelly: 1

ShepxAshley: 2
ShepxKaidan: 3
ShepxVega: 1


Art Contributions


ShepxThane: 78
ShepxMiranda: 25

ShepxSamara: 20
ShepxJack: 17
ShepxJacob: 5
ShepxKelly: 4

ShepxGarrus: 14
ShepxAshley:  19
ShepxKaidan: 19
ShepxTali: 2
ShepxVega: 1

Deadline for submissions is the 25th
, so if you really want to participate and show support for your favorite LI(s), there's still time left!

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Hmm...I noticed something:

ME3 confirms that Miranda is a scientist as well as an operative. Remember when the debate was up about whether Miranda was a scientist or more of an administrator after the events of ME2? Well, the vidlogs at Cronos Station confirm she was the one who told TIM bringing back Shepard was possible. She wouldn't have been able to say that and be believed unless she wasn't an expert.

@Visii:
I have a letter in the works. And that's an awesome amount of Thane-themed art.

Modifié par Ieldra2, 19 avril 2012 - 02:47 .