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[Skullheart]

I'll write another letter. Writing two different letters at the same time with the same objective isn't easy....

[cbutz]

I wish I was more artistically inclined to create some fanart but alas I am not.

[flemm]

cbutz wrote...

I wish I was more artistically inclined to create some fanart but alas I am not.

Well, you could try a screenshot. I believe the tribute also includes screenshots of Shepard + the Love Interest in question.

[jtav]

Ieldra2 wrote...

Hmm...I noticed something:

ME3 confirms that Miranda is a scientist as well as an operative. Remember when the debate was up about whether Miranda was a scientist or more of an administrator after the events of ME2? Well, the vidlogs at Cronos Station confirm she was the one who told TIM bringing back Shepard was possible. She wouldn't have been able to say that and be believed unless she wasn't an expert.

@Visii:
I have a letter in the works. And that's an awesome amount of Thane-themed art.

It's very odd. When people speak about her or she appears only in text, she's fantastic. Her actual appearance is hit or miss.

[flemm]

jtav wrote...

It's very odd. When people speak about her or she appears only in text, she's fantastic. Her actual appearance is hit or miss.

I agree it's odd. I can only imagine it's because the basic outline of her appearance got locked in early and/or was impossible to change once they got around to fleshing it out late in development. So a lot of what we're seeing in the surrounding material is an effort to make the whole thing more palatable.

Suffice it to say it doesn't really work. If anything it tends to bring out the shortcomings of the main substance of the role. Some of the details are nice in and of themselves, though.

Modifié par flemm, 19 avril 2012 - 03:20 .

[jtav]

And a non-romanced Miranda seems a shade more confident, with her agreement that she's a dangerous enemy and her assertion that she always has a plan.

[flemm]

jtav wrote...

And a non-romanced Miranda seems a shade more confident, with her agreement that she's a dangerous enemy and her assertion that she always has a plan.

Though I think you miss out on the 2IC line. This is probably a resource issue, partly. There aren't too many romance-specific lines, but quite a few of the regular lines are oriented toward the romance, to the point that the whole thing comes off as rather flirtatious even if, for example, you are playing femshep.

Modifié par flemm, 19 avril 2012 - 03:30 .

[Dr. Doctor]

flemm wrote...

Though I think you miss out on the 2IC line. This is probably a resource issue, partly. There aren't too many romance-specific lines, but quite a few of the regular lines are oriented toward the romance, to the point that the whole thing comes off as rather flirtatious even if, for example, you are playing femshep.

What's even better is Miranda stroking femshep's face during the death scene. There was orgininally going to be a femshep/Miranda romance option, but it was cut. However, because Hale and Meer both read off of the same script the romance lines exist for both of them.

[jtav]

The face stroking meant I was too busy laughing to be upset during the death scene. The whole interaction with Miranda is very...well, a romance scene wouldn't have felt out of place.

[Td1984]

Ieldra2 wrote...

jtav wrote...
Would you guys like to help me brainstorm? What sort of positive and negative effects occur from having Miranda on the Normandy from Sanctum on?

Positive:
*Miranda is there for interaction. Potential for romance development and to talk to her about those things the game has discarded.
*Great potential for banter
*Potential team member
*Miranda may have Cerberus-related information

Negative:
*Miranda can't act independently
*Distrust of the crew and some of the team members.
*Alliance brass may keep important information from Shepard because she's on board.

Really? I can't see Hackett or Anderson doing that. Shepard is the only one who can save the damn galaxy and they know it. Keeping key info from him/her would probably be the absolute worst thing they could do.

[Ieldra]

jtav wrote...
It's very odd. When people speak about her or she appears only in text, she's fantastic. Her actual appearance is hit or miss.

My conclusion: everyone at Bioware knew Miranda is awesome. Except the guy who actually wrote her. 

And we can't even upbraid him properly because he's a newbie. But who the hell thought it was a good idea to assign a newbie to write a multifaceted character like Miranda? And who made the decision to keep Miranda away from Cronos Station?

[hot_heart]

I could see them forbidding Miranda from entering the war room rather than withholding information outright.

Another question (not sure if this has been discussed or expanded on before): Considering the state of the galaxy in ME3, how do you think Miranda would feel about curing the Genophage?

Asakawa wrote...
Hot_heart, lets talk about it! Who knows we can work something out?

That would be great, but you'd probably have to read the thing in my sig to see if it would be worth it...

Modifié par hot_heart, 19 avril 2012 - 05:07 .

[MisterJB]

http://evanescekunoi...ss effect&qo=59

[jtav]

Okay. Wow to the first one.

[Td1984]

Keeping Miranda out of the war room would make more sense (though I'd ultimately tell her what I could afterwards).

[Asakawa]

hot_heart wrote...

Asakawa wrote...
Hot_heart, lets talk about it! Who knows we can work something out?

That would be great, but you'd probably have to read the thing in my sig to see if it would be worth it...

if it's mobile friendly, I'm up to the task XD Not being able to use my pc at home for these past few days is literally killing me. Besides, I could use some new reading after finishing the ME novels!

[Asakawa]

MisterJB wrote...


http://evanescekunoi...ss effect&qo=59

oh wow, nice colors!!

[Ieldra]

MisterJB wrote...


http://evanescekunoi...ss effect&qo=59

Beautiful. Sorry for quoting for the nth time, but this is awesome.

[JohnTSCC]

Ares91 wrote...

@John GTFO!! man how dare you!    lol   so are you gonna do another run where you stay with Miranda?


@kratosOk seriously man?  "I trully wish i could help with the comic but i suck at writing and i can only draw landscapes :/" You relazie that's what I was looking for in regards to crutch and my project right? If I have my way and I think I will lol Asakawa will do the human drawings but we needed someone for backgrounds. Backgrounds = landscape = how would you like a job? It pays nothing it will take up a nice part of your free time and it will be I honor of the amazing Ms Miranda Lawson
So what do you say?


I speak solely for myself in regards to the "new beginnings" project. I don't have final say clutch would have to agree. And this has Nothing to do with the trilogy.

yeah I have another Shepard to import with Miranda. I'm playin the Renagade Shepard which I kind of don't want to play anymore. She died in my Renagade playthrough. I was depressed and when I saw her name on the wall I started crying.  

[Asakawa]

JohnTSCC wrote...

yeah I have another Shepard to import with Miranda. I'm playin the Renagade Shepard which I kind of don't want to play anymore. She died in my Renagade playthrough. I was depressed and when I saw her name on the wall I started crying.  

Then start doing it all over again, Connor!!! For humanity's sake!


......... sorry, saw your name and had to say it XD

[hot_heart]

Asakawa wrote...
if it's mobile friendly, I'm up to the task XD Not being able to use my pc at home for these past few days is literally killing me. Besides, I could use some new reading after finishing the ME novels!

Hmm, not sure if I can help on that front. No idea what would be readable on a mobile and whether you'd want to strain your eyes with all that text.

[jtav]

I still want to deck whoever made that a death condition. I feel trapped in the romance. Fortunately, none of the other choices appeal either, but I deeply resent the implications and the fact that I had to make another Shepard just to see Cortez's romance.

[hot_heart]

I'd heard that it's possible for her to survive if you tell her 'nothing's changed' but go on and romance someone else regardless. But I'm guessing you've actually tested all that and confirmed that you have to do the romance scene too?

[jtav]

No, you can do that. It just meant RP-ing a cheating Shep, and I didn't want to. I ended up downloading a Shep. None of MShep's options really appealed, so I've gone back to FShep.

[Dr. Doctor]

Ieldra2 wrote...
And we can't even upbraid him properly because he's a newbie. But who the hell thought it was a good idea to assign a newbie to write a multifaceted character like Miranda? And who made the decision to keep Miranda away from Cronos Station?

In all actuality he did a pretty good job writing her, the whole death/Cronos Station thing falls along the crit path side of the equation. As previously stated Miranda failed the "Walters' Favorite Character" test.