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[CuseGirl]

Has anyone just looked at the PC code and figured out what checks result in Miranda living or dying?

[o Ventus]

CuseGirl wrote...

Has anyone just looked at the PC code and figured out what checks result in Miranda living or dying?

-Romance affirmation
-Alliance resources
-Paragon/Renegade with Henry Lawson (If not applicable, then shooting Oriana)
- (Obviously) loyalty form ME2
- (Obviously), survival from ME2

[MASSEFFECTfanforlife101]

 VOTE! http://social.biowar...1&poll_id=33014

[o Ventus]

MASSEFFECTfanforlife101 wrote...

 VOTE! http://social.biowar...1&poll_id=33014

I'm surprised Thane only has 1 vote.

[flemm]

CuseGirl wrote...
But that's basically what that whole scene was....that whole ending sequence is just an exposition in what NOT to do when you've already written a fantastic game....

Oh, I agree. I just read that and lol'd, because it was a funny/accurate way of putting it

According to Weekes (if that really was Weekes in that semi-anonymous forum post, which it probably was), he had to successfully argue in favor of the squad member farewell scenes for them to even happen.

That really shows how far these guys had their heads up their *sses. I don't really mean that in an insulting way, I almost feel bad for them, but they really got it all wrong.

Modifié par flemm, 27 avril 2012 - 11:44 .

[Ares91]

I agree 100% If its true that Weekes or whoever had to argue for that little bit of squad mate interaction we got, then "those two" really need to check themselves.

[kookie28]

flemm wrote...

CuseGirl wrote...
But that's basically what that whole scene was....that whole ending sequence is just an exposition in what NOT to do when you've already written a fantastic game....

Oh, I agree. I just read that and lol'd, because it was a funny/accurate way of putting it

According to Weekes (if that really was Weekes in that semi-anonymous forum post, which it probably was), he had to successfully argue in favor of the squad member farewell scenes for them to even happen.

That really shows how far these guys had their heads up their *sses. I don't really mean that in an insulting way, I almost feel bad for them, but they really got it all wrong.

I bet those Bioware writers were thinking, "Those players would never try to talk to their favorite characters again!"

[Dr. Doctor]

CuseGirl wrote...
 Then at the FOB, Anderson is showing all these schematics that make no sense, basically saying "see this area? we just RUN as fast as we can to this place. OK? Good, lets go"

Now, if we had gotten a Hammerhead or a Mako to drive through the Conduit like we did on Ilos, that would have been neat.

Granted, I really wish Earth had got the same treatment as Rannoch or Tuchanka where there were a few smaller missions that needed to be done before the final push. Maybe have the Normandy and a pair of Normandy-class stealth frigates from the Fifth Fleet drop Shepard and a few Special Ops teams on Earth to lay the groundwork for the allied fleet's offensive then Shepard can call in the cavalry.

[Td1984]

I thought that in the lead-up to ME3, BW said we were supposed to not only visit Vancouver (Intro) and London (Final Mission), but also New York. Assuming I'm not wrong, what happened to that?

[kookie28]

Td1984 wrote...

I thought that in the lead-up to ME3, BW said we were supposed to not only visit Vancouver (Intro) and London (Final Mission), but also New York. Assuming I'm not wrong, what happened to that?

Artistic integrity. 

I mean money.

[o Ventus]

Td1984 wrote...

I thought that in the lead-up to ME3, BW said we were supposed to not only visit Vancouver (Intro) and London (Final Mission), but also New York. Assuming I'm not wrong, what happened to that?

Earth escape takes place in Vancouver. Never heard anything about New York.

[Vertigo_1]

Td1984 wrote...

I thought that in the lead-up to ME3, BW said we were supposed to not only visit Vancouver (Intro) and London (Final Mission), but also New York. Assuming I'm not wrong, what happened to that?

That was more of a "what you'd see via the news reports" type of thing.  The same ones shown at the very beginning of the game when the Reapers first arrive.

There's also a mention of New York by Vega on Menae

Modifié par Vertigo_1, 28 avril 2012 - 12:34 .

[o Ventus]

Ares91 wrote...

I agree 100% If its true that Weekes or whoever had to argue for that little bit of squad mate interaction we got, then "those two" really need to check themselves.

Not even interaction. It was all 100% auto-dialogue.

[Dr. Doctor]

Vertigo_1 wrote...

Td1984 wrote...

I thought that in the lead-up to ME3, BW said we were supposed to not only visit Vancouver (Intro) and London (Final Mission), but also New York. Assuming I'm not wrong, what happened to that?

That was more of a "what you'd see via the news reports" type of thing.  The same ones shown at the very beginning of the game when the Reapers first arrive.

There's also a mention of New York by Vega on Menae

ANN Reporter: ...Leaving Vancouver utterly destroyed. In other news, New Yorkers breath a sigh of relief after finding out that their city wasn't the first one to be destroyed by the invaders for a change.

[Vertigo_1]

jtav wrote...

I did specify "if romanced." And you do not have to do Horizon immediately after Thessia. In all my games, Horizon is the last thing I do before Cronos. No trouble saving Miranda.

Horizon is a priority mission (felt more like a side mission but we've discussed this), those don't have timers like the side missions do.

[jtav]

New chapter of Dying is up if anyone cares.

[flemm]

kookie28 wrote...

I bet those Bioware writers were thinking, "Those players would never try to talk to their favorite characters again!"

I think that DA:O developer said it well, not long after the game was released and the endings fiasco began. Basically, what he said boiled down to: they forgot the basic principles of how to make a roleplaying game, or deliberately ignored them.

I think that's a big part of the problem. With the two main areas being:

1) Your choices matter and affect the world in a meaningful way.

2) The relationships you build with characters along the way also matter. And the player gets to decide which ones are most important (within certain parameters, inevitably, of course).

I think they basically threw out the whole idea of player agency, more or less consciously, and it became all about shocking the gaming world with their uncompromising vision, or some such nonsense. So much so that even the rest of the development team was kept out of the loop.

Modifié par flemm, 28 avril 2012 - 12:57 .

[Dr. Doctor]

@ Jtav

You made Allers interesting, which is really impressive. Also is there any chance that there's a link between Henry Lawson's method of detecting Huntington's disease and Shepard's own condition?

[dtrain24]

The website was giving me log in troubles yesterday, I see I missed out on some pretty good conversation, hah.

[MASSEFFECTfanforlife101]

^ You HAVE to Vote A LOT BETTER than THAT in the Poll Above, People. Miri MUST WIN!

[Ares91]

Dude shes in second place behind Liara you really cant ask for much better then that.

[MASSEFFECTfanforlife101]

Actually she's Third Place now.

Modifié par MASSEFFECTfanforlife101, 28 avril 2012 - 02:47 .

[kookie28]

Miranda has the 2nd largest thread. Only behind Tali. It'll be ok.

[o Ventus]

kookie28 wrote...

Miranda has the 2nd largest thread. Only behind Tali. It'll be ok.

Except there has been 4 different Miranda threads, totalling almost 4000 pages in all. Tali only has the one, IIRC, and the only reason hers grew so rapidly is because hers (and Liara's) are the two that receive regular, very rapid posts.

Modifié par o Ventus, 28 avril 2012 - 02:57 .

[yesikareyes]

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