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"I'll always want you in my life." Miranda Lawson in Mass Effect 3


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Ieldra2 wrote...

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is it just me or the skin textures for most female humans look better in ME2? Especially Miranda.

Not sure, but you're right about Miranda. There's a hint of three-dimensionality in MIranda's ME2 outfit, that becomes more apparent with high-res mods. That's completely gone in ME3.

Tragically appropriate.

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MisterJB wrote...

It may be so that I am grasping at straws but I could see a scientist, a businessman who believes in a human-positive agenda, a supremelly egotistical bastard and even a father who could spoil his child as long as it served his purposes.


I do think you're grasping at straws a bit. Where are any of those traits evident?

Anyway, even to the extent that we assume those traits are apparent, the issue is twofold:

1) No substance to the confrontation.

2) No sense that this individual presents any real obstacle to overcome at that moment in time.

Part of the problem with bad writing is that it has weight simply by existing. It would have been soooo easy to make this confrontation a gazillion times more effective and interesting than it is in the game. After all, Henry is there researching indoctrination. His main character trait is his domineering tendencies. So, instead of having him hide behind Orianna (LoL), you have him defend himself with his research.

It even works as a bit of foreshadowing of the confrontation with TIM.

Overcoming an obstacle is only significant if the obstacle is hard to overcome.  That's mind-numbingly obvious, of course. But that is still the basic problem with the confrontation.

Modifié par flemm, 28 avril 2012 - 06:54 .


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hot_heart wrote...

Heh. Just got to an episode of Chuck that bears a certain similarity to Miranda's loyalty mission...

The one with her mom and the baby? Btw that means your in Season 5 correct?

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Kind of a big post incoming regarding the fan book: deadline, details for submissions, etc. I'll probably be editing it, but anyway, want to keep in separate for linking purposes.

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MIRANDA FAN BOOK PROJECT OVERVIEW

Goal: To showcase the many facets of Miranda Lawson Image IPB

This is a tribute book for us, the fans, and for Bioware, the developers. People like Miranda for a lot of different reasons, and we want to capture all of that variety in the book. Also, we think that the character's complexity was not showcased to its full potential in ME3, so we would like to showcase it here.

Obviously, we would like to encourage Bioware to make more Miranda content. But regardless of whether they do or not, we want to leave this behind at Bioware headquarters as a permanent statement. Let's talk about what was right and what wasn't; what we loved, and what we didn't. An electronic copy will be made available to all.

Deadline: Wednesday, May 30th, 2012.

SUBMISSIONS
**** Contributions can be sent by email to mirandafanbook@gmail.com ****

On the BSN, they can be...
1) Sent via PM to Vertigo_1 or flemm
2) Posted in the group for the Fan Book project: http://social.bioware.com/group/7217/

FAN ART
We would like to include a wide variety of fan art. Keep in mind that the book will be printed in 8.5" X 11" format, which is standard paper size. So, you may want to keep that in mind when creating images.

We have a lot of beautiful fan art already, so I can't wait to see what else you all will come up with Image IPB

LETTERS
Here is an outline of what a typical letter might include:

Dear Mass Effect 3 Writers and Developers:

1) Thank you for creating the Mass Effect universe and its characters.
2) I am a fan of Miranda because...
3) Regarding Miranda's content in ME3, I was... disappointed with X, happy with Y, etc.
4) In DLC content for Miranda, I would like to see...
5) Thank you for your time!


Sincerely,
*alias and/or name of your choice*



FAN FICTION
Fan fiction, including excerpts and dialogues, should really help us capture the variety and complexity of the character as viewed by her fans. For excerpts especially, feel free to include an "author's note" at the beginning to explain why you chose that particular piece.

Page range for text submissions: The usual length of letters ranges from one paragraph to several pages. It's up to you. A short letter can be very effective, as can a longer letter. Typically, fan fic submissions range from one to four pages.

We have a lot of great contributions already, and I can't wait to see the final product!

Modifié par flemm, 18 mai 2012 - 04:33 .


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Ares91 wrote...

hot_heart wrote...

Heh. Just got to an episode of Chuck that bears a certain similarity to Miranda's loyalty mission...

The one with her mom and the baby? Btw that means your in Season 5 correct?

Correct. Getting close to the end now... :unsure:

Modifié par hot_heart, 28 avril 2012 - 07:25 .


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Warning small chuck se5 spoiler skip first paragraph if u care:

Well good luck man. I'll let you know the last half of that season is amazing. And amazingly emotional.
Did you like Shaw's return? And plz feel free to let me know when you get to ChuckVsTheBulletTrain.

OK back on topic. If in working on a comic where would that go in the book? Fanfic or art?
Also I have a letter to Bioware that has a bit of fanfic in it. Can I just submit that as a whole to the "Letters to Bioware" section?

Modifié par Ares91, 28 avril 2012 - 07:39 .


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I especially loved how they decided to ignore five years of character development for Sarah. That was sweeeeet.
Sorry, this really isn't the place.

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I'm somewhat tempted to ignore that Season 5 ever happened.

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Td1984 wrote...

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Dr. Doctor wrote...
ANN Reporter: ...Leaving Vancouver utterly destroyed. In other news, New Yorkers breath a sigh of relief after finding out that their city wasn't the first one to be destroyed by the invaders for a change.

How did I miss that bit of dialogue? Born and raised in Brooklyn. And I really do get upset when EVERY FREAKING MOVIE decides to blow up NYC first. I truly think non-NY movie makers, when they get the opportunity, they have to satisfy some bloodlust over NYC, because their Oopoopadoo Podunk Town isn't called the Greatest City in the World......

I was born in the LA area and lived in Southern California until I was 10. I couldn't bring myself to watch "Battlefield: LA" for that reason, so I know what you mean. I live in Northern California now, but I'm still miss Southern Cal.

I couldn't bring myself to watch that movie because it was terrible lolllll....but yea, it's not nice watching your hometown get blown to smithereens 2 every 3 years, especially when it's happened twice in reality.

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Yeah, honestly, S5 has not felt so great. A few good moments here and there but the show usually tends to struggle when it takes itself too seriously. Some of that Decker stuff was just so terrible, unless there's something more to it. Of course, Yvonne will keep me watching.

Enough Chuck-talk! Hehe

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Like ME3? I have nothing but contempt for ME3 Miranda, to the point that I resent the flashes of her old self because I can't just kill her off and have done with it.

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Ares91 wrote...
OK back on topic. If in working on a comic where would that go in the book? Fanfic or art?
Also I have a letter to Bioware that has a bit of fanfic in it. Can I just submit that as a whole to the "Letters to Bioware" section?



About the comic: no worries there. It's kind of its own thing, so I didn't include a section for it in this post, which is largely informational. We can talk about how best to place the comic in the book, I can't wait to see how it turns out.

As to the letter with a bit of fanfic in it, that can definitely go in the letters section. The above is just an overview, some of the organisaton will be dealt with on a case-by-case basis, of course.

Modifié par flemm, 28 avril 2012 - 07:47 .


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jtav, you're becoming extreme. Not good. Why don't you pretend that those flashes are the true Miranda. You'd spare yourself a lot of bad feelings.

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jtav really gives me negative vibes sometimes.

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Hmmm... exciting project Ieldra!

Going to work on that :D

EDIT: Added a new photo! 

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Edit

@yesikareyes. That pic. Im gonna make a hoodie with that pick on it :D

@flemm. Ok cool thanks for clarifying that. And I may have two comics to submit not sure yet.

 Im thinking we need a Chuck thread....

Td1984 wrote...

I'm somewhat tempted to ignore that Season 5 ever happened.

I wouldn't go that far, but season4 is definitely the best imo.

@MisterJB
I dont know if it was ignored, there was somw good character bits there. And after watching the ending a few times and seeing interviews with zack and Yvonne i may not like it that much but im ok with it.

@hot_heart Yeah Decker was lame imo Shaw was awesome, and the last villian either sucks or was pure evil depending who you ask.

Modifié par Ares91, 28 avril 2012 - 08:49 .


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Hey Flemm, do you have the other screenshots stored anywhere besides the thread on the fanbook group? Or should I post the ones I put on the thread there?

Also, I made a small edit to my letter on the thread in the group.

Modifié par dtrain24, 28 avril 2012 - 08:59 .


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dtrain24 wrote...

Hey Flemm, do you have the other screenshots stored anywhere besides the thread on the fanbook group? Or should I post the ones I put on the thread there?


You can go ahead and transfer them to that thread in the fan book group that Ieldra started, if you want. That's where I would be transferring them eventually anyway, for organisational purposes.

Remember, for the screenshots, that a caption or description really adds a lot (like you did on yours).

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Alright Flemm I'll get on that and save you the trouble. :)

Btw guys, would you define us as a movement? I would, we're all working together to achieve a common goal.

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yesikareyes wrote...

EDIT: Added a new photo! 

*snip*



Wow, that's awesome. What is that, exactly, you say it's a photo?

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yesikareyes wrote...

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Hmm....nice. Who made that?

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Indeed. That's fantastic.

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On second thought, sorry Flemm...not exactly sure how to put the photos on the thread there since it won't let me copy/paste..
The screenshots are back on page 1905.
Sorry about that, man..

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That's awesome. C'est super!

Modifié par dtrain24, 28 avril 2012 - 09:09 .


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dtrain24 wrote...

On second thought, sorry Flemm...not exactly sure how to put the photos on the thread there since it won't let me copy/paste..
The screenshots are back on page 1905.
Sorry about that, man..


No worries. It's on my "to-do" list anyway. I think, if you go in and "edit" your original post, then click "BBCode," you will be able to copy/paste the code into the thread in the group.

Then, refresh the page, and... voilà Image IPB

Normally, that works.