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[jtav]

I thought that, if Miranda wasn't a squad member, they would take extra care to make her appearance awesome and she would have more impact on the game world and get to show off her operative side more.

Mea culpa, mea maxima culpa.

[Ieldra]

jtav wrote...
I thought that, if Miranda wasn't a squad member, they would take extra care to make her appearance awesome and she would have more impact on the game world and get to show off her operative side more.

Mea culpa, mea maxima culpa.

Well, my expectations were not quite as optimistic, but I considered it possible just as you did. Plain fact: not one of the non-team ME2 LIs got significant writing attention, a good story or any kind of character exploration and development. We were wrong.

Modifié par Ieldra2, 30 avril 2012 - 08:47 .

[flemm]

jtav wrote...

I thought that, if Miranda wasn't a squad member, they would take extra care to make her appearance awesome and she would have more impact on the game world and get to show off her operative side more.

Mea culpa, mea maxima culpa.

It's not really worth dwelling on. What we can do now is focus on encouraging improvements via future content.

I do think we might get some.

[Vertigo_1]

jtav wrote...

I thought that, if Miranda wasn't a squad member, they would take extra care to make her appearance awesome and she would have more impact on the game world and get to show off her operative side more.

Mea culpa, mea maxima culpa.

Perhaps with a different writer (like Weekes or John Dombrow) she would have

Modifié par Vertigo_1, 30 avril 2012 - 08:50 .

[kookie28]

ME3 is so tragic, and not for the reasons Bioware intended.

[flemm]

Vertigo_1 wrote...


Perhaps with a different writer (like Weekes or John Dombrow) she would have

Maybe. It's odd that Weekes ended up writing Jack, whom he is on record as originally despising, and not Miranda.

I think the comparison is fairly damning, actually, when you look at what he did with Jack in much less content.

It's astonishing that there is a whole level in the game (on the crit path, no less!) devoted to Miranda, and yet it amounts to pretty much nothing. This despite the fact that it involves the Reapers, Cerberus, Miranda's father, is a death camp, and is the source of TIM's indoctrination troops, etc.

It's not like there was a lack of material to work with...

Modifié par flemm, 30 avril 2012 - 09:02 .

[Ieldra]

flemm wrote...

Vertigo_1 wrote...

Perhaps with a different writer (like Weekes or John Dombrow) she would have

Maybe. It's odd that Weekes ended up writing Jack, whom he is on record as originally despising, and not Miranda.

I think the comparison is fairly damning, actually, when you look at what he did with Jack in much less content.

It's fairly astonishing that there is a whole level in the game (on the crit path, no less!) devoted to Miranda, and yet it amounts to pretty much nothing.

Yep. I have to take my statement above back. Jack did get significant character development, and in a very satisfying way, even it was very implausible.

Miranda......meh.

[jtav]

Yeah. Miranda gets much more content than Jack, but my opinion of Jack was actually improved by her brief appearance. I've been told her romance is wholly inadequate, but I'm much more interested in actually romancing her. Miranda? It's as you said: all the pieces are there, but they somehow managed to screw it up.

[Vertigo_1]

Well yeah Weekes did great with Jack so much that I wanted to see more of her (already a Jack fan since ME2)
and John did a good job with what he wrote (Genophage arc including it's characters with help from Weekes)

Imagine Sanctuary written by him and Weekes + some tweaks to Cronos station and you can see why I'd think they would have done a better job

Modifié par Vertigo_1, 30 avril 2012 - 09:11 .

[flemm]

Vertigo_1 wrote...
Imagine Sanctuary written by him and Weekes + some tweaks to Cronos station and you can see why I'd think they would have done a better job

Grrrrrr, that's it, I started thinking about it...

Time to go punch a wall or something. LoL

Modifié par flemm, 30 avril 2012 - 09:18 .

[hot_heart]

Maybe a bit late now, but does anyone know if there are collections of dialogue sound files for Miranda in Mass Effect 2 like there has been with 3?

p.s. "You arse"

Modifié par hot_heart, 30 avril 2012 - 09:32 .

[Aliqaiser]

Page 4- of the comic no dialogues at all, just different set of scene's showcasing Ijur-17 and The Anotomus relay.



http://aliqaiser.dev...t.com/#/d4y7mp7

now, waiting for crutch's post relating the story progression.

[flemm]

Very cool. These panels are gorgeous.

[dtrain24]

Hey guys, I was wondering. Say if you got to hand pick...say 7 squadmates for Mass Effect 3 out of all of the squadmates from ME1-3, who would you pick on your team?

Mine would be Miranda (of course), Wrex, Grunt, Garrus, Javik, Legion, and I guess Zaeed (I never actually had him as a squaddie, but he's always looked pretty cool on Youtube).

[yesikareyes]

 From a holdtheline forum poster:

Modifié par yesikareyes, 30 avril 2012 - 10:14 .

[kookie28]

I'd be jealous if I were Catwoman.

Modifié par kookie28, 30 avril 2012 - 10:18 .

[Ares91]

My dream squad would be: Miranda, Garrus, Mordin, Wrex, Grunt, Ashley, Samara.
Sorry if I spelled somones name wrong.

[dtrain24]

@Ares
Just noticed, I love you signature. "Miranda Effect"- Win

[hot_heart]

Hmm, let me think.
Miranda, Mordin, Jack, Wrex, Garrus, Samara and Javik.

For a nice mix of characters and abilities.

[jtav]

Miranda
EDI
Javik
Liara (say what you will, she is actually tied to the ME3 story)
VS
Mordin
Thane/Tali

[Ares91]

I thoughts. aBout outing in liara for the same reason jtab did. But then I realized she could be a nonsquad squadie. She's on the ship bit only leaves for her mission kinda like mordin wrex and all them.
I also did want to add EDI but i rather her be like liara. And only leave the ship for TIM base that way she can stay on the ship with joker

[dtrain24]

Ares91 wrote...

I thoughts. aBout outing in liara for the same reason jtab did. But then I realized she could be a nonsquad squadie. She's on the ship bit only leaves for her mission kinda like mordin wrex and all them.
I also did want to add EDI but i rather her be like liara. And only leave the ship for TIM base that way she can stay on the ship with joker

Well EDI wouldn't be necessary for Cronos if Miranda was a squaddie.

[jtav]

I think EDI is necessary for thematic reasons given the ending. I'd just like Miranda there is the other side of the argument, if you will.

[dtrain24]

jtav wrote...

I think EDI is necessary for thematic reasons given the ending. I'd just like Miranda there is the other side of the argument, if you will.

I can personally see Miranda and EDI as pretty agreeable in terms of Cerberus. I'm sure Miranda would want to take Cerberus down, just like EDI. Except I believe Miranda's presence on Cronos would be superior to EDI's.

[Stalker]

jtav wrote...

I think EDI is necessary for thematic reasons given the ending.

This is actually what I think is the worst part about ME3: They established a completely new plot from scratch with their Synthetics-vs-Organics crap.
Drew hinted Dark Energy throughout ME1 and 2 several times, and you would have truly had this "Of course! It all makes sense now!" moment in the ending... even with the StarChild.

Now EDI had to take over the Cerberus part, only to consolidate the new plot. It's sad, really.