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[flemm]

Skullheart wrote...

Well, there's still will be some politician who'd want to use former Cerberus personal to gain support. and Miranda as former 2IC will be the perfect sacrifice for a political career.

There's a lot of ex-Cerberus working with the Alliance. Miranda may be a somewhat special case in terms of her rank, but she's also a special case in terms of what she's accomplished (bringing Shepard back, the SM, Sanctuary).

Given the state of the Alliance and the galaxy post-Reaper war, I don't think a political vendetta against her is a likely concern.

[MASSEFFECTfanforlife101]

Though I don't know if Miri would want to wear Standard issue Alliance Uniform. Not her Style.

Modifié par MASSEFFECTfanforlife101, 09 mai 2012 - 06:07 .

[MisterJB]

With the largest fleet ever put together trapped in our system, diplomacy is just not going to cut it.
We will need as many capable humans as possible.

[Caihn]

flemm wrote...

Skullheart wrote...

Well, there's still will be some politician who'd want to use former Cerberus personal to gain support. and Miranda as former 2IC will be the perfect sacrifice for a political career.

There's a lot of ex-Cerberus working with the Alliance. Miranda may be a somewhat special case in terms of her rank, but she's also a special case in terms of what she's accomplished (bringing Shepard back, the SM, Sanctuary).

Given the state of the Alliance and the galaxy post-Reaper war, I don't think a political vendetta against her is a likely concern.

Exactly.
I think they will be more than happy to have Miranda in their rank. I'm sure they would keep an eye on her, but they can't refuse her help.

[Dr. Doctor]

MASSEFFECTfanforlife101 wrote...

Could anyone imagine Miri being the Shadow Broker?

Possibly, although the position of Shadow Broker as of ME3 isn't as powerful as it used to be after the base was destroyed. I don't think that the Broker's job of dealing information while maintaining the status quo wouldn't appeal to Miranda. She seems to be more interested in gaining knowledge to advance humanity while Liara's more focused on aquiring knowledge for knowledge's sake.

Besides, our current Shadow Broker is doing a fine job:

[Vertigo_1]

Dr. Doctor wrote...
Besides, our current Shadow Broker is doing a fine job:
*snip*

LOL, agreed! But it seems to be a recurring theme in the ME series.  Ranks don't really mean anything...

Modifié par Vertigo_1, 09 mai 2012 - 07:06 .

[Babi_Siha]

Again, late on the conversation, but I can't see Miranda joining the Alliance, she wouldn't want be part of the burecracy, and she always seemed not to be to be a big fan of the Alliance anyway. I can see her doing some black ops for Hackett, but not joining.

yesikareyes wrote...

Am I the only one here who actually agreed with TIM in Mass Effect 2? Damn, I wanted to be his ally but then he went bonkers. It would have been cool if Cerberus was good but still rogue in ME3 and you can choose between Alliance or Cerberus.

Cerberus for me all the way!

EDIT: Btw, this semester was really hard for me so I made a bet that if I get a 3.5 and above with my GPA... I'm getting a Cerberus logo tattoo that says "Humanitas Primum" 

The Illusive Man was awemose on ME2, my renegade FemShep couldn't agree more with him. I didn't like what they did to him in ME3 however. BW did something similar that Capcom did with Wesker in RE5 and made him too cartoonish. If in ME (course by now I'm only talking about Cerberus in general) and ME2 he was a man willing to do everything for the evolution of humanity even if those things weren't morally right, in the third game he became so much simpler and more predictable. He changed from someone who only wanted what's best for humanity to someone who only cares about galaxy dominance and as far as villains go, how cliché is that?

I still would like to roleplay in favor for them in ME3, even if I no longer agreed with him, but that's only because much like Miranda, I'm not an Alliance fan and it angers me that after everything that happened to Shepard he'd still be glad to come back to it. Shepard was Hackett's puppet on the first game, everytime the Alliance screwed up, Hackett would send Shep even though he/she was a Spectre, then in the first game it was clear that the Alliance didn't take his word for the Reapers, not to mention he did Hackett a favor in rescuing Amanda and nothing bad happened to Hackett, who commanded the illegal operation in the first place and Shep ended up getting the bad end of the deal.

Wow, I got completelly OT.

[kookie28]

Being the Shadow Broker would be a total waste of Miranda's other skills, but she would be a lot better at it (or at least provide more useful information than) Liara.

[Ieldra]

flemm wrote...

Skullheart wrote...
Well, there's still will be some politician who'd want to use former Cerberus personal to gain support. and Miranda as former 2IC will be the perfect sacrifice for a political career.

There's a lot of ex-Cerberus working with the Alliance. Miranda may be a somewhat special case in terms of her rank, but she's also a special case in terms of what she's accomplished (bringing Shepard back, the SM, Sanctuary).

Given the state of the Alliance and the galaxy post-Reaper war, I don't think a political vendetta against her is a likely concern.

It would happen, you can be sure of it. If Miranda's role is made official, some politician will start a campaign for no better reason than to gain support through misguided moral outrage from people who don't know better and fall for the same kind of association fallacy which people here on BSN use to discredit the Control and Synthesis endings.

The campaign would probably be shot down in short order by Hackett and his people, but Miranda would find herself the subject of investigative journalism seeking to uncover every facet of her time with Cerberus and, depending on affiliation, seeking to taint her achievements by linking her to Cerberus atrocities or saying that as second-in-command, she's partly responsible for (list of projects) etc., etc.. It wouldn't do much damage to her in the long run given that she also brought Shepard back and played a signficant role in Cerberus downfall, but I think Miranda would absolutely hate this kind of political attention.

[Ieldra]

yesikareyes wrote...
Am I the only one here who actually agreed with TIM in Mass Effect 2? Damn, I wanted to be his ally but then he went bonkers. It would have been cool if Cerberus was good but still rogue in ME3 and you can choose between Alliance or Cerberus.

Cerberus for me all the way!

EDIT: Btw, this semester was really hard for me so I made a bet that if I get a 3.5 and above with my GPA... I'm getting a Cerberus logo tattoo that says "Humanitas Primum" 

No, you aren't the only one. Humanity needs its own STG-analogue which can do things like, well, the genophage if necessary. But any such organisation needs to carefully weigh the means employed against the benefits - it always walks a thin line between being too ineffective or too ruthless. That's where TIM went off the deep end - and where Miranda would do better.

Modifié par Ieldra2, 09 mai 2012 - 10:08 .

[CrutchCricket]

Hmm....

-Miranda could be the Shadow Broker but she's better suited elsewhere.

-Hackett totally sees Miranda's value. Hell it was probably him that gave the word to allow her fighter squadron to do their thing. For her part she would work with him, even under his command, but mostly in covert ops where there isn't a large degree of military formality.

-Miranda would never be in the public eye for anything she does. She doesn't require public recognition and there are aspects of what she does the public wouldn't necessarily support. Politicians can find some other chump to scapegoat.

-TIM was always an untrustworthy bastard and nothing in ME2 changes that. People like Miranda thought they were working for a Cerberus that doesn't actually exist. Maybe it did once but by ME2 it's long gone. The necessity of the positive aspects of this organization is not in question here.

[akenn312]

I don't know, in a fan fiction sense, and this has probably already been created. I generally thought that if Miranda makes it out of the war alive, she would probably find it her duty to try and rebuild/remake Cerberus to a respectable organization or go back to Horizon and take over Sanctuary and head rebuilding that to a respectable organization for helping refugees or giving people a second chance. All those Ex-Cerberus people will need a place to go and start over because the Alliance will probably still not want to accept them for their past crimes. There would be Cerberus stragglers out there that would need help rehabilitating from the Illusive man and her fathers influence. And those people have talents and could do some good now the worlds have to rebuild from the war. Miranda would be the perfect leader they could rally around and see that there was another way to live in unity with alien cultures. Basically her way of carrying on Sheppard's message too.

I think that makes the best sense for the Miranda character that we know from ME2 in my opinion. She would never fit in with the Alliance like Jack, and the only reason Jack does is love for the Biotic students. The Shadow Broker thing is Liara's gig. To me Miranda needs something more. Miranda is an idealist. But one that does not want to be tied down with restraints or regulations. But she also looks down on the criminal underworld and criminal activity. Remember how she saw Omega as distasteful? She will deal with the criminal underworld but only because she has to in some cases to get the job done.

Also I'm coming to this conclusion, disregarding the current endings and allowing the galaxy and characters to have proper closure even with Sheppard dying rather than what we have currently. I just basically assume now that Sheppard found another way to stop the reaper threat sacrificing himself but letting the galaxy stay intact. No Synthesis, Control or Destroy.

Modifié par akenn312, 09 mai 2012 - 03:14 .

[Babi_Siha]

Still can't see Miranda as the Shadow Broker. Someone mentioned a while ago, I think it was jtav, that Miranda would be suited working as a scientist, having her own lab. Since ME2 I always thought that after the war was over she would work as a scientist on Illium, doing unconventional research similar to the Lazarus Project.

[yesikareyes]

One more page till' my birth year... must scout for a celebratory dat ass photo bwahahaha

[MisterJB]

Working solely as a scientist would be a waste of her skills. I'd prefer to see Miranda lead her own black ops group that deals in politics, military and science. Anything to improve the standard of living of all humans in the galaxy.

[Babi_Siha]

MisterJB wrote...

Working solely as a scientist would be a waste of her skills. I'd prefer to see Miranda lead her own black ops group that deals in politics, military and science. Anything to improve the standard of living of all humans in the galaxy.

That depends on her work. Can you imagine if she worked on something like organ cloning and genetic engineer? She could save lots of lives and improve the lives of many.

And Yesika, now you made me feel old. But I'll go to deviantart and look for a nice photo for you.

Modifié par Babi_Siha, 09 mai 2012 - 03:30 .

[MisterJB]

Babi_Siha wrote...
That depends on her work. Can you imagine if she worked on something like organ cloning and genetic engineer? She could save lots of lives and improve the lives of many.

Yes, she could. And, at the same time, she could be releasing intel to ensure the salarians can't hide their connections to the recent yahg attacks on human colonies and sending strike teams to eliminate a Terminus Warlord that was going to attack Citadel Space using newly recovered Reaper technology.

Meanwhile, Shepard is like this:
"Hey sweetie, called to see how was your day and to inform you that the Alliance is planning a raid on the Icarus outpost three days from now...yes...yes, three frigates and a cruiser..."

Modifié par MisterJB, 09 mai 2012 - 03:37 .

[flemm]

Ieldra2 wrote...

It would happen, you can be sure of it.

Yeah, probably. I just don't think it would prove to much of an obstacle (under these specific circumstances, especially). Agreed with you on that point.

[yesikareyes]

Babi! Don't feel old hahaha. You look so young and vibrant in your twitter picture

Miranda as leader of reformed Cerberus, please.

[CrutchCricket]

MisterJB wrote...

Babi_Siha wrote...
That depends on her work. Can you imagine if she worked on something like organ cloning and genetic engineer? She could save lots of lives and improve the lives of many.

Yes, she could. And, at the same time, she could be releasing intel to ensure the salarians can't hide their connections to the recent yahg attacks on human colonies and sending strike teams to eliminate a Terminus Warlord that was going to attack Citadel Space using newly recovered Reaper technology.

Meanwhile, Shepard is like this:
"Hey sweetie, called to see how was your day and to inform you that the Alliance is planning a raid on the Icarus outpost three days from now...yes...yes, three frigates and a cruiser..."

Pfft. Shepard as a mere informant? I don't think so. And as far as I'm concerned Shep's out of the Alliance regulars after ME3. Maybe he's already going after that warlord.

[MisterJB]

Definitively not an informant. Just someone in a position of knowing things. Like the human representative of the post-ME3 equivalent of the Citadel Council.

Tough I prefer Shepard as a Virtual God after Synthesis.

Modifié par MisterJB, 09 mai 2012 - 03:57 .

[CrutchCricket]

I see Shepard as off the grid after ME3. Still doing important stuff and having powerful allies in Liara and Miranda. But not part of any known organization.

I refuse to accept the RGB but I will say the "virtual god" thing works better with control. And in such a case, the new entity would lose all touch with humanity.

Modifié par CrutchCricket, 09 mai 2012 - 04:01 .

[Babi_Siha]

yesikareyes wrote...

Babi! Don't feel old hahaha. You look so young and vibrant in your twitter picture

Miranda as leader of reformed Cerberus, please.

Thanks, though I must say make-up helped me a little bit.

BTW, I found a nice dat ass picture like you requested, just waiting to get to another page to post the link.

[flemm]

Babi_Siha wrote...


BTW, I found a nice dat ass picture like you requested, just waiting to get to another page to post the link.

Well, something to look forward to