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[Vertigo_1]

Babi_Siha wrote...

Vertigo_1 wrote...

Knock off the hate, this isn't the thread for it.

Man, chill, okay? No one here is offending any member and if some of us are giving our opinion about Kaidan is simply because someone posted a photo of them together.

Well I got PMs on that.  Like I said before, there are lurkers in the thread...and I already expanded on why on a later post.

Modifié par Vertigo_1, 11 mai 2012 - 03:57 .

[Babi_Siha]

Vertigo_1 wrote...

Well I got PMs on that.  Like I said before, there are lurkers in the thread...and I already expanded on why on a later post.

Yeah, I saw that after I posted my reply. Still, we're not on Kaidan's thread and not offending anyone, we're just giving our opinion, which we're entittled to. I really don't know why those Kaidan fans get so sensitive, but I'll keep the peace.

Modifié par Babi_Siha, 11 mai 2012 - 04:11 .

[Vertigo_1]

Babi_Siha wrote...

Vertigo_1 wrote...

Well I got PMs on that.  Like I said before, there are lurkers in the thread...and I already expanded on why on a later post.

Yeah, I saw that after I posted my reply. Still, we're not on Kaidan's thread and not offending anyone, we're just giving our opinion, which we're entittled to. I really don't know why those Kaidan fans get so sensitive, but I'll keep the peace.

Sure we aren't in that thread but there's still people who like both characters that either post or lurk here.  I'm reminded of that one time there was a mention of him before that got really bad (he decided to mention his remark to that thread as well, for some odd reason)

It got bad, to the point we had people coming into each thread and saying something about it (both good and bad) and I and others, had to apologize to the OP for his remarks.  Mods were involved too.

Don't want to see things get worse is all.

Modifié par Vertigo_1, 11 mai 2012 - 04:22 .

[Td1984]

MisterJB wrote...

I do wish Bioware would just take this Indocrination "Theory" behind the barn.

Me too. I took the "puke violently" option on that question as to what I'd do if BioWare said it was legit.

[Babi_Siha]

I actually like the IT. Actually, it's not that I actually like, but I hate plotholes and this theory it's the only thing that explains the huge plotholes that happen once Shepard reaches the Citadel.

Modifié par Babi_Siha, 11 mai 2012 - 04:41 .

[MisterJB]

IT doesn't explain a damn thing. It handwaves all problems away simply by saying it was all happening in Shepard's mind. It's not a great plot twist, it's a damn cop out.
Furthermore, the only plothole I can recall happened as soon as the Reapers took over the Citadel but didn't shut the Relay Network. All other problems lie in presentation.

Modifié par MisterJB, 11 mai 2012 - 04:50 .

[Skullheart]

You couldjust imagine ME3 as an AU. It has a lot of discrepancies with the previous games.

[Skullheart]

Let's see the plot holes about the last part of the game.

- Reapers capturing the Citadel, but they didn't shut down the relay network (their modus operandi from ME1).
- The reapers let TIM to board the Citadel, but in Sanctuary it was stated that they were enemies of TIM and Cerberus.
- If the reapers controlled TIM, did they really have to attack Sanctuary?
- What happened with all the fleet and the force defending the Citadel? they still count in the EMS right before priority Earth.

Well,that just the first that comes to my mind, but I know there's a lot more plot holes.

Modifié par Skullheart, 11 mai 2012 - 04:59 .

[Ieldra]

Td1984 wrote...

MisterJB wrote...
I do wish Bioware would just take this Indocrination "Theory" behind the barn.

Me too. I took the "puke violently" option on that question as to what I'd do if BioWare said it was legit.

Yeah, me too. One of the few ways they could make the ending far worse than it is.

[Ieldra]

Hmm...

...it is strange. Hundreds of good Miranda screenshots from ME2. ME3? Three or four.

[kookie28]

@Ieldra: It's hard to take a decent screenshot when there's only about five minutes of screentime for her.

[MisterJB]

Skullheart wrote...
- The reapers let TIM to board the Citadel, but in Sanctuary it was stated that they were enemies of TIM and Cerberus.
- If the reapers controlled TIM, did they really have to attack Sanctuary?

TIM's insatiable need for control lead to him implanting himself with Reaper technology. Mayhaps that was the moment when the Reapers truly got a hold on his mind thus making him harmless to them. These implants might have only happened after the Reaper attack on Sanctuary.
Not exactly prestige writing but not necessarely a plothole.

- What happened with all the fleet and the force defending the Citadel? they still count in the EMS right before priority Earth.

They died horribly and Bioware was either lazy or didn't want to spend resources on showing how the Reapers took the Citadel. Again, this affects the quality of the game but it is not a plothole.

Besides, EMS was broken the moment Bioware didn't make a diferentiation between Hammer, Sword and Crucible resources.

[hot_heart]

I missed a lot of drama! Hehe.

As for the Avengers 2 stuff. I would love, love, LOVE to see the wonderful Miss Strahovski in that sort of film and written by Joss Whedon. Even if Coby Smulders was essentially Miss Exposition, Black Widow was pretty awesomely done.

[flemm]

Ieldra2 wrote...

Do you need it all sent to the mail address? I think I have posted all my stuff to the group, and it's enough that I don't think I need to write more. My epilogue isn't coming along well atm. 

Nope, everything posted in the group is fine as is. The switch to the email address is simply to, well... simplify. It can be used on and off the BSN, for example.

[kookie28]

I can't wait for the day that we don't have to walk on eggshells for every topic discussed.

[Vertigo_1]

MisterJB wrote...
They died horribly and Bioware was either lazy or didn't want to spend resources on showing how the Reapers took the Citadel. Again, this affects the quality of the game but it is not a plothole.

Actually they did, but it was cut due to (for them) being out of pace with the story so far.
I remember this from a thread where someone asked Weekes @ PAX East questions about ME3.

EDIT: Found it!

How did the Reapers storm the Citadel? Why didn't they shut down the relays as per their original plan once they had control?

Originally we planned to have a cutscene of Reapers taking over, Reaper monsters punching buttons, et cetera. But we cut it, partially for resource reasons and partly because it disrupted the pacing.

The Reapers didn't shut down the mass relays because the Keepers interfered with that. (I wish I could've asked a follow-up here, it doesn't make much sense.)

Source: social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/355/index/11154234

So resources and pacing

Modifié par Vertigo_1, 11 mai 2012 - 05:29 .

[hot_heart]

Oh, and I forgot to say that the poster looks totally awesome, yesika!

[MisterJB]

Why didn't the Keepers interfere when Sovereign shut down the Relays in ME1?

[yesikareyes]

hot_heart wrote...

Oh, and I forgot to say that the poster looks totally awesome, yesika!

Thanks! I'll hopefully have more done by the end of today.

I'll be working on the posters with photoshop artist the whole day with the concepts suggested in the poster discussion of our group. So if you have more concept ideas, feel free to post it there so I get notified and we can get it done by today

[Babi_Siha]

MisterJB wrote...

IT doesn't explain a damn thing. It handwaves all problems away simply by saying it was all happening in Shepard's mind. It's not a great plot twist, it's a damn cop out.
Furthermore, the only plothole I can recall happened as soon as the Reapers took over the Citadel but didn't shut the Relay Network. All other problems lie in presentation.

Exactly, since everything was happening on Shepard's head then every plothole have that excuse, that they weren't real so they didn't need to be realistic. And when they announced the EC I thought that maybe if the IT turns out to be right then we'll finally get to put the war assets we've been collecting to good use and destroy the Reapers fighting them, this way no Mass Relays destroyed, no Normandy stranded on Gilligan's Island.

Of the plotholes I remember, when the Illusive Man shoots Andersn Shepard starts bleeding in the same place Anderson was shot. There's radio chatter that no one made it to the Citadel. Why wasn't Joker using the Normandy's weapons to fight and instead was off to space? And why were everyone else? I mean, just because Shepard could only take two sqauddies with him doesn't mean everyone else will skip the fight and curl at the Normandy. But the one that stands out the most is how come Shepard is at space without having a breather?

I believe IT is a poor excuse to fix the endings, this way BW is exonerated of any mistake, but like I said it's the only one that can make sense of those awful endings.

[MASSEFFECTfanforlife101]

I Love These ME3 Screenshots I took of her:wub::

Modifié par MASSEFFECTfanforlife101, 11 mai 2012 - 05:44 .

[kaymarierose]

 ME2 Miranda! <3

[MisterJB]

  this way no Mass Relays destroyed,

The Mass Relays simply MUST be destroyed in any ending besides Control. CrutchCricket will know what I am talking about.

when the Illusive Man shoots Andersn Shepard starts bleeding in the same place Anderson was shot.

It probrably has to do with Shepard having been in the middle of a warzone.
Besides, Anderson was shot on the right side, Shepard bleeds from the left. And if TIM kills Anderson, why doesn't Shepard start bleeding from his head?
And what about TIM's wounds? Why doesn't Shepard bleed from the same spots if it is all connected?

But the one that stands out the most is how come Shepard is at space without having a breather?

He is not. There are no reasons to assume there aren't windows or Mass Effect fields protecting him while on the Citadel.

[MisterJB]

After 35 years...



BTW, any theories on what Miranda meant when she said "Tracking him was easy once I confirmed my father worked for The Illusive Man. Just had to follow the lies."?

edit: Miranda joining Cerberus, I believe.


http://browse.deviantart.com/?q=mass effect&order=5&offset=0#/d4zgomz

Modifié par MisterJB, 11 mai 2012 - 06:20 .

[flemm]

MisterJB wrote...

BTW, any theories on what Miranda meant when she said "Tracking him was easy once I confirmed my father worked for The Illusive Man. Just had to follow the lies."?

It's a good question, I'm not really sure, tbh.