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"I'll always want you in my life." Miranda Lawson in Mass Effect 3


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yesikareyes wrote...

Here you go dtrain!

<snip/>

and more food/drink themed pics of Miranda.

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...why is she talking with Frank West? Still, its a cool pic! Posted Image

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Td1984 wrote...

dewayne31 wrote...

I have a question bout miranda and the save editor. I'm playing and a femshep and non romance maleshep. my playthru that she my li i played all the way thru. Anyway doers shep says i thought we made sure your sister was afe only in a romance?

Shepard always makes that comment, whether Miranda was romanced or not.


do you know i have to do in the editor to fix it?

#51328
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Ieldra2 wrote...

jtav wrote...
I think there's a lot of room for variation in Shep's sexual history. I have one that would have done iPartners, another that was married and divorced, and another that I'm not sure notices non0Miranda people as sex-objects. The divorcee is the only one I RP'd as dumping Miranda, ironically enough.

I wonder if anyone else has made a backstory like this: Cyrus Shepard met Miranda before, in 2176, and had a fling with her when they were both disguised and under cover. When they met again in ME2, they didn't recognize each other until the engine room scene. No in-between relationship for him because he couldn't forget the mysterious woman who was found to not exist according to the Alliance's records. 



I seem to remember requesting this story somewhere before and somebody was going to write it for me. I can't quite remember who it was though... *cough*Ieldra-you-owe-me-a-fanfic*cough*

This plot bunny really won't leave me alone though. I've always liked origin stories and the idea of Miranda and Shepard having met before ME2 (even if they weren't aware of it) is too delicious for me to let it go. 

CrutchCricket wrote...

I can but restate that Miranda had no reason to hide from her father who knew full well where she was (and couldn't do **** about it) and that any time she needed to go undercover for Cerberus, she obviously used a different codename. There is no inconsistency here and Bioware has plenty of other ways to imply that viewers are morons. This is not one of them.

 

The problem for me is that Miranda uses her real name within Cerberus. No, she can't hide her identity from her father but does she need to share it with everyone she works with as well? She's got to have enemies other than her father and TIM and allowing them to find out who she was so easily is a liability. Cerberus is hardly an airtight organization.

Right off the bat in ME2 Cerberus brings in an outsider who learns Miranda's real name immediately (Shepard). Half an hour into the game a member of Miranda's team turns out to be a traitor. An hour or so into the game the outsider starts recruiting more outsiders, many of whom have a serious issues with Cerberus, and all of them now know her real name. 

Miranda and Cerberus might try to bury her identity and past as much as possible but for someone with the right skills and enough resources could probably dig it up quite easily. Given that Miranda is both Cerberus' #2 and has likely worked as a covert agent in the past, I find it mindboggling that Miranda wouldn't bury her real name and identity and throw away the key a la Sarah Walker from Chuck (apologies for being the millionth person to compare the two characters). 

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Mass Effect, for me, was Technically supposed to be ONE Story, ONE Trilogy for me. But because of EVERYONE saying how much I should start something new and have a different Shepard and Love Interest, my Beliefs on how MY Version of Mass Effect was to Exist was horribly manipulate because of all this pressure I get from other people when they just don't get that I don't want any Other Versions of Mass Efects, I don't want other Characters, and I don't want other Love Interests.


I'm sorry. I just what to stick with My ONE Mass Effect Story. I see My Mass Effect as a Complete Made Flim and Book Trilogy, written in Stone. No Alternate Gender, and No Alternate Love Interest. Just the ONE Trilogy with that ONE Story, and I just want to keep it that way.
I just don't want to. I see AND I'm Comfortable With My Mass Effect Experience as Just ONE Trilogy, with ONE Shepard, and ONE Love Interest (MIRANDA LAWSON).

I'm so sorry everyone.:(:unsure::crying:

Modifié par MASSEFFECTfanforlife101, 23 mai 2012 - 06:31 .


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Going OFF-TOPIC!!

I was going through my Gallery and found these Images. This incident took place while the tallest tower of the world was still under construction, lightning strikes are not common in Dubai and it went on for continuous 5 minutes, however I regret being asleep that day, because I missed a hell of a night.

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#51331
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*De-cloaks and exits through that secret vent called thread-lurking*

So..err uhm hi Miranda fans!

As noticed from my sig I'm a Thanemancer, but Miranda is awesome in my book because she is a strong, intelligent and dedicated lady, so basically count me as someone who likes Miranda alot.

And with that said I wanted to drop this #FindMiranda #SaveThane alliance poster here!

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/BTW wishing you all good luck on both the #FindMiranda campaign and the Miranda Fanbook!

*Tactical cloaks back into thread-lurkdom*

#51332
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@Emeraldfern

Nice pick you. I hope BW listen this time instead of ignoring the fanbase for two years (like thay did after ME2).

@Aliqaiser

Those are great pics. you might like to see this:

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They are from the eruption of the Chaiten volcano, back from 2008. A good combination of a lighting storm with an eruption, it can show us how amazing and dangerous can be mother nature.

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fongiel24 wrote...
 

Ieldra2 wrote...
I wonder if anyone else has made a backstory like this: Cyrus Shepard met Miranda before, in 2176, and had a fling with her when they were both disguised and under cover. When they met again in ME2, they didn't recognize each other until the engine room scene. No in-between relationship for him because he couldn't forget the mysterious woman who was found to not exist according to the Alliance's records. 


I seem to remember requesting this story somewhere before and somebody was going to write it for me. I can't quite remember who it was though... *cough*Ieldra-you-owe-me-a-fanfic*cough*

This plot bunny really won't leave me alone though. I've always liked origin stories and the idea of Miranda and Shepard having met before ME2 (even if they weren't aware of it) is too delicious for me to let it go. 


Exactly how Shepard and Miranda recognize each other during that scene could be anything from humorous to heartwarming to heartbreaking, depending on what they learned about each other the first time and under what circumstances they parted.

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@fongiel:
I'm sorry that "Masks and Mirrors" stayed unfinished. I haven't given up on it completely - the problem was that the file with the complete chapter 3 plus a romance scene from chapter 4 was destroyed when my HDD had a hiccup and my USB stick went defective on the same day. Demotivation set in, and then my betaing and co-plotting for DoI took up way too much space in my mind.

@drwells:
You want a spoiler? Hint....it's blue.

Modifié par Ieldra2, 23 mai 2012 - 10:31 .


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MASSEFFECTfanforlife101 wrote...

Mass Effect, for me, was Technically supposed to be ONE Story, ONE Trilogy for me. But because of EVERYONE saying how much I should start something new and have a different Shepard and Love Interest, my Beliefs on how MY Version of Mass Effect was to Exist was horribly manipulate because of all this pressure I get from other people when they just don't get that I don't want any Other Versions of Mass Efects, I don't want other Characters, and I don't want other Love Interests.


I'm sorry. I just what to stick with My ONE Mass Effect Story. I see My Mass Effect as a Complete Made Flim and Book Trilogy, written in Stone. No Alternate Gender, and No Alternate Love Interest. Just the ONE Trilogy with that ONE Story, and I just want to keep it that way.
I just don't want to. I see AND I'm Comfortable With My Mass Effect Experience as Just ONE Trilogy, with ONE Shepard, and ONE Love Interest (MIRANDA LAWSON).

I'm so sorry everyone.:(:unsure::crying:

We'll never forgive you, Luis.  You are forever banished to the Corner of Shame.

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Skullheart wrote...

@Emeraldfern

Nice pick you. I hope BW listen this time instead of ignoring the fanbase for two years (like thay did after ME2).

@Aliqaiser

Those are great pics. you might like to see this:

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They are from the eruption of the Chaiten volcano, back from 2008. A good combination of a lighting storm with an eruption, it can show us how amazing and dangerous can be mother nature.


HOLY MOTHER NATURE :o

Modifié par Aliqaiser, 23 mai 2012 - 11:10 .


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Ieldra2 wrote...

@fongiel:
I'm sorry that "Masks and Mirrors" stayed unfinished. I haven't given up on it completely - the problem was that the file with the complete chapter 3 plus a romance scene from chapter 4 was destroyed when my HDD had a hiccup and my USB stick went defective on the same day. Demotivation set in, and then my betaing and co-plotting for DoI took up way too much space in my mind.

@drwells:
You want a spoiler? Hint....it's blue.


It was certainly an interesting premise - I certainly find it amusing that it's possible Shepard and Miranda met pre Mass Effect. It certainly works quite well with Infiltrator Sheps...:ph34r:

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Emeraldfern wrote...

*De-cloaks and exits through that secret vent called thread-lurking*

So..err uhm hi Miranda fans!

As noticed from my sig I'm a Thanemancer, but Miranda is awesome in my book because she is a strong, intelligent and dedicated lady, so basically count me as someone who likes Miranda alot.

And with that said I wanted to drop this #FindMiranda #SaveThane alliance poster here!

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/BTW wishing you all good luck on both the #FindMiranda campaign and the Miranda Fanbook!

*Tactical cloaks back into thread-lurkdom*


I really like that photo, hopefully it can happen in game.

Modifié par cbutz, 23 mai 2012 - 01:55 .


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cbutz wrote...

I really like that photo, hopefully it can happen in game.


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Kai Leng looks like a ballerina.

But yes, we all wish that would have happened so Miranda and Thane could call him a SOB themselves.

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Emeraldfern wrote...

*De-cloaks and exits through that secret vent called thread-lurking*

So..err uhm hi Miranda fans!

As noticed from my sig I'm a Thanemancer, but Miranda is awesome in my book because she is a strong, intelligent and dedicated lady, so basically count me as someone who likes Miranda alot.

And with that said I wanted to drop this #FindMiranda #SaveThane alliance poster here!

*snip*

/BTW wishing you all good luck on both the #FindMiranda campaign and the Miranda Fanbook!

*Tactical cloaks back into thread-lurkdom*


Thank you EmeraldFern.  I quite like this!
Only thing I'm wondering is why it's so bright?

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yesikareyes wrote...

Kai Leng looks like a ballerina..


Thank you so much for making my day. 

I was trying to explain Kai Leng to a friend another day and that is just the term I missed. 

Modifié par Asakawa, 23 mai 2012 - 03:50 .


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So, is somebody going to do a drawing of Kai Leng as a ballerina, or do I have to learn to draw so that I can do it myself Posted Image

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flemm wrote...

So, is somebody going to do a drawing of Kai Leng as a ballerina, or do I have to learn to draw so that I can do it myself Posted Image


................................................................................................. *rach looks to the left*
................................................................................................. *rach looks to the right*
......................................................................... CHALLENGE ACCEPTED!

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Just in case people here dont know. If you use the me3 Editor on Miranda and looking for the bool for helping her sister in me2. bool 1288 set to true to make sure she was safe or false for not doing it

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Asakawa wrote...

................................................................................................. *rach looks to the left*
................................................................................................. *rach looks to the right*
......................................................................... CHALLENGE ACCEPTED!


LoL, well, if you do end up doing it, I can't wait to see it Posted Image

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Guys! I have a small fic-related task for you: Come up with a drink that Miranda might order at a bar. An actual name is required. THIS IS IMPORTANT STUFF.

But, yeah, basically, I could see her ordering some asari-made thing. Problem is the game doesn't really name drinks other than ryncol, which sounds like (bad) medicine (not the Bon Jovi kind). Meaning you have the opportunity to suggest a suitable drink-type along with a name.

I can see you positively salivating at the prospect!

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fongiel24 wrote...
The problem for me is that Miranda uses her real name within Cerberus. No, she can't hide her identity from her father but does she need to share it with everyone she works with as well? She's got to have enemies other than her father and TIM and allowing them to find out who she was so easily is a liability. Cerberus is hardly an airtight organization.

Right off the bat in ME2 Cerberus brings in an outsider who learns Miranda's real name immediately (Shepard). Half an hour into the game a member of Miranda's team turns out to be a traitor. An hour or so into the game the outsider starts recruiting more outsiders, many of whom have a serious issues with Cerberus, and all of them now know her real name. 

Miranda and Cerberus might try to bury her identity and past as much as possible but for someone with the right skills and enough resources could probably dig it up quite easily. Given that Miranda is both Cerberus' #2 and has likely worked as a covert agent in the past, I find it mindboggling that Miranda wouldn't bury her real name and identity and throw away the key a la Sarah Walker from Chuck (apologies for being the millionth person to compare the two characters).

What difference does it make? First off remember the compartmentalized cell nature of Cerberus. Despite working there for 20 years there's no guarantee she's come into contact with more than two or three dozen people. And there's nothing that says she didn't use a code name when part of earlier cells (maybe during the operative days). I've previously stated that she used other code names when on missions but she could easily have used them within an operative cell as well.
And what does knowing her name really do, even if we are talking outsiders and enemies of Cerberus? It's a big galaxy. Probably millions of Miranda Lawsons at least. Finding one specifically is ridiculously difficult, even if they connect her to her father. I get why you would compare her with Sarah Walker but the sheer scale of their worlds, space vs Earth and Cerberus vs CIA throws most of that out the window. Even if all her aliases got burned, there are limitless places in the galaxy she can hide and limitless more options for redisguise. For all intents and purposes she's nearly as untouchable as the Illusive Man himself.

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Serrice ice Brandy

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Actually on that note I have another thought on her name, her position within Cerberus and why it might work.

In ME3 we find out she's the 2IC. But we don't get told how long she had the job (right?). I'm thinking she might've been promoted fairly recently ie right before or during Lazarus. This solves a number of issues.
1. Plausible deniability for the more atrocious of Cerberus' acts. She wasn't 2IC when they went down.
2.The identity thing. If she's 2IC she's doing more things like leading a cell like Lazarus as opposed to field work as an operative or whatnot. So maybe that implies a more stationary hidden role, like TIM. Maybe if Lazarus went according to TIM's plan she'd be stationed on Cronos or another station like it. Thus making the name thing irrelevant since she'd be out of any enemy's reach much like TIM is. In that scenario if the name thing bothers you that much you can consider all her work before Lazarus and retrieving Shepard's body as being done under one code name or another. Again given the segregated nature of Cerberus cells revealing her name to the Lazarus bunch means nothing to the other cells.