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[Vertigo_1]

Dr. Doctor wrote...

I think that after ME2 they really painted themselves into a corner with the whole "they might be dead" mechanic. The SM was a really neat idea but placing it right in the middle of the series means that the ME2 squad couldn't get as much focus placed on them because they might not have survived the SM.

Sadly true: www.gamefront.com/mac-walters-on-mass-effect-2-ending-what-the-hell-were-we-thinking/

Mac Walters said...

Sometimes they’re hurdles that we’ve given ourselves, so we kind of smack ourselves in the head and say ‘What the hell were we thinking? Why did we do that?’

The classic example is ‘Hey, let’s make the ending of Mass Effect 2 a suicide mission where all your henchmen can possibly die, and Shepard can even die!’ Oh right… and then we’re gonna do another game after that. What the hell are we gonna do with all those guys?

Modifié par Vertigo_1, 26 mai 2012 - 05:11 .

[flemm]

drwells123 wrote...

Ieldra2 wrote...
IMO there was a "Chuck" episode where Sarah had dyed her hair black and walked around in a close-fitting black leather outfit. That was generally regarded as a shoutout to ME2. A link to the scene was posted here some time ago. I vaguely recall Chuck looking like a carp...

Thanks, that must be what I saw. I'll go look.

That episode definitely exists. Might be what you're thinking of, I guess. There's also an episode of Chuck that's pretty much a riff on Miranda's loyalty mission.

[Babi_Siha]

Ieldra2 wrote...

IMO there was a "Chuck" episode where Sarah had dyed her hair black and walked around in a close-fitting black leather outfit. That was generally regarded as a shoutout to ME2. A link to the scene was posted here some time ago. I vaguely recall Chuck looking like a carp...

There was an episode like that, but she was wearing a wig to infiltrate a terrorist organization. She definitely reminded Miranda a lot with the dark hair and outfit.

Modifié par Babi_Siha, 26 mai 2012 - 06:15 .

[o Ventus]

I just uploaded chapter 3 of Salvation (Dear [insert deity name here], did that take forever). After weeks of school work and flat-out not being able to draft anything, I finally got it uploaded to FF.net. As per usual, you can find a link in my signature. Warning: Some mild language. Already have a basic board laid out for chapter 4, so hopefully it will be much, MUCH faster than 3. I have a very good feeling about #4, once I'm done with it. No spoilers, but I think it's going to be the most emotional thing I've written.

[Stalker]

flemm wrote...

drwells123 wrote...

Ieldra2 wrote...
IMO there was a "Chuck" episode where Sarah had dyed her hair black and walked around in a close-fitting black leather outfit. That was generally regarded as a shoutout to ME2. A link to the scene was posted here some time ago. I vaguely recall Chuck looking like a carp...

Thanks, that must be what I saw. I'll go look.

That episode definitely exists. Might be what you're thinking of, I guess. There's also an episode of Chuck that's pretty much a riff on Miranda's loyalty mission.

Now that you name it...
I don't know the dates when episodes and ME2 came out, but could it be that they have been pretty much inspired by the whole Sarah story arc? Ruthless special agent with father-problems? 
Or did they wrote Miranda and realized that this pretty much fits on Sarah and decided to model and VA her?

[Caihn]

Mr Massakka wrote...

Now that you name it...
I don't know the dates when episodes and ME2 came out, but could it be that they have been pretty much inspired by the whole Sarah story arc? Ruthless special agent with father-problems? 
Or did they wrote Miranda and realized that this pretty much fits on Sarah and decided to model and VA her?

The "black catsuit" episodes were written after ME2 release and the episode with the baby (similar to Miranda's LM) was written last year.
I doubt Miranda character has been inspired by Sarah Walker, and I think they chose Yvonne because she played a spy who can be cold and ruthless but also very emotional, and because Yvonne is very good at deliver all these different aspects of a character. 

[jtav]

Warning: baseless speculation.

I think Miranda Solheim was originally a very different character from Miranda Lawson. The concept art is more sinister and more sexual than what we see in-game. She looks like a villain, frankly. I think we were originally going to get a character who was much more the classic femme fatale, who Shepard couldn't really trust until s/he was won over. A combination of factors, including the assignment of Weekes and Strahovski'd hiring, led to us having the character we all know and love.

[fiendishchicken]

o Ventus wrote...

I just uploaded chapter 3 of Salvation (Dear [insert deity name here], did that take forever). After weeks of school work and flat-out not being able to draft anything, I finally got it uploaded to FF.net. As per usual, you can find a link in my signature. Warning: Some mild language. Already have a basic board laid out for chapter 4, so hopefully it will be much, MUCH faster than 3. I have a very good feeling about #4, once I'm done with it. No spoilers, but I think it's going to be the most emotional thing I've written.

It was well thought out, but the execution was a bit rapid. They're in the courtroom for all of 5 minutes with Miri being tried for Terrorism, crimes against humanity, and crimes against other aliens. Then it's over with a happy ending. Of course we know its going to end happy. I know court-room drama's are pretty boring, and I wasn't expecting Admiral Mikhailovich to shout "You Can't Handle The Truth", but you could have drawn it out a bit like have Shepard convince some of the squadmates to testify in her defense. What do the other races have to say about Miri's charges. You'd think they'd want some type of retribution, even if it's not Miri's fault. It reminded me of Tali's loyalty mission too much as it is. As I said, one minute Miri's on trial for her life, 5 minutes later she's free to go as if nothing's happened. It's a great concept, but you could've expanded on it. 

Modifié par fiendishchicken, 26 mai 2012 - 02:39 .

[flemm]

jtav wrote...
I think Miranda Solheim was originally a very different character from Miranda Lawson. The concept art is more sinister and more sexual than what we see in-game. She looks like a villain, frankly. I think we were originally going to get a character who was much more the classic femme fatale, who Shepard couldn't really trust until s/he was won over. A combination of factors, including the assignment of Weekes and Strahovski'd hiring, led to us having the character we all know and love.

Could be, to a point, but it seems pretty likely that that version of the character was never really fleshed out. Also, I imagine it's pretty common for characters to evolve as they are developed.

[Vertigo_1]

HAHA awesome:

twitter.com/GambleMike/status/206434615118925824
"Trying to convince @FionesB to put together a Miranda costume for the summer cons. I was one of the few who stayed true to Miranda!"

Modifié par Vertigo_1, 26 mai 2012 - 06:02 .

[MisterJB]

Well, at least someone on Bioware did.

[Ieldra]

MASSEFFECTfanforlife101 wrote...

To think....Miri was born in 2150, and humanity did not find the Mass Relay at Pluto and made First Contact with Alien Species until 2157. So Miri, and Shepard were around during the Discovery of our Mass Relay and the Discovery of Aliens.

Unfortunately, that's not true. The Charon relay was dicovered in 2149, one year after discovery of the Prothean cache on Mars. The following years humanity started to explore the relay network. 2157 was the year of the First Contact War.

[Ieldra]

flemm, is there space left in the fanbook? It's possible I'll be able to finish my "many years later" epilogue with Miranda and Cyrus Shepard in time...

[kookie28]

I told Michael Gamble that I would cry if Miranda DLC were announced. And that I wouldn't be ashamed by that.

[MASSEFFECTfanforlife101]

Ieldra2 wrote...

MASSEFFECTfanforlife101 wrote...

To think....Miri was born in 2150, and humanity did not find the Mass Relay at Pluto and made First Contact with Alien Species until 2157. So Miri, and Shepard were around during the Discovery of our Mass Relay and the Discovery of Aliens.

Unfortunately, that's not true. The Charon relay was dicovered in 2149, one year after discovery of the Prothean cache on Mars. The following years humanity started to explore the relay network. 2157 was the year of the First Contact War.

But what about the papragraphs shown in every prologue before showing the title?

[jtav]

2148-Prothean archives discovered.

2150-Miranda born.

2157-Humanity discovers it isn't alone thanks to the First Contact War.

[Lawrence0294]

So Luis, how is your playthrough with Femshep ?

[Ieldra]

Paragraphs shown in every prologue? What are you talking about? The dates are in the official timeline.

[hot_heart]

The paragraph in ME1 matches what Ieldra said.

'In the year 2148, explorers on Mars discovered the remains of an ancient spacefaring civilisation.'

[MASSEFFECTfanforlife101]

kratos0294 wrote...

So Luis, how is your playthrough with Femshep ?

It's going great. I STILL consider Myself a MirimancerMirimaniac ONLY. I mean, yeah, Quorra is Romancing Liara, BUUUTTT..I don't think she's my Love Interest, but Quorra's Love Interest. I do not have that "Connection" Like I do with Miri. I have been a Mirimancer/Mirimaniac for more than 2 Years, and I want to stay as A Mirimancer/Mirimaniac. Meaning since I feel more affection with my Main Shepard (Luis Shepard), I feel that I'm still a Mirimancer/Mirimaniac only. In my Main Story, I feel like I'm actually in Shepard's shoes. Not just because of My Name, but also due to My Personal Connection to it. It is Complete, My "Canon." Like I said with My Main Shepard, I feel like I'm actually him. With Quorra I am not. She is Quorra Shepard. Her Story is Alternate And Parallel to my own, and it is meant to be that way. You know what I mean? Two Different Commanders, Two Different Love Interests, One with More "Personal" Connection, and One Destiny for Both.

I decided to Start Quorra in ME2 instead. I used the Genesis Comic so that ME1 would serve as her Back Story. Since I didn't want to go through all of ME1 again, and since I am more Emotionally Attached to the ME2 Characters (Including Garrus and Tali), I downloaded the Genesis Comic and Started in ME2. It wasn't to be as "Complete" as my Canon (Luis (My Name) Shepard, with Miranda Lawson as My Love Interest), so instead of skipping things in ME1 and regretting it, I decided to Download Genesis and use ME1 as a "Back Stoy," or "Prologue." Her Story is a Two-Part-Series, Like Kill Bill, and her Love Interest is Liara T'Soni. In the Genesis Comic I made her Romance Liara. I not only want to make an Alternate Playthrough, but I also want it to be Unique.

Oh And here is Quorra with Miri at her side:

Modifié par MASSEFFECTfanforlife101, 26 mai 2012 - 07:40 .

[Vertigo_1]

Ieldra2 wrote...

Paragraphs shown in every prologue? What are you talking about? The dates are in the official timeline.

He means the text that appears during the intro of ME1 though it's still says 2148 as the year they discovery of the Prothean ruins on Mars

Blah, hot_heart ninja'd me

Modifié par Vertigo_1, 26 mai 2012 - 07:35 .

[Babi_Siha]

Vertigo_1 wrote...

HAHA awesome:

twitter.com/GambleMike/status/206434615118925824
"Trying to convince @FionesB to put together a Miranda costume for the summer cons. I was one of the few who stayed true to Miranda!"

Great news, that's the perfect opportunity for us to tweet him.

Modifié par Babi_Siha, 26 mai 2012 - 08:40 .

[MASSEFFECTfanforlife101]

Hey, wasn't Miri originally Intended to be a Love Interest for both MaleShep AND FemShep? I wonder why they cut the FemShep part out? Did they think it would be bad? It would have been a VERY interesting and possibly well written Scenario, just as good with MaleShep.

Modifié par MASSEFFECTfanforlife101, 26 mai 2012 - 07:49 .

[flemm]

Vertigo_1 wrote...

HAHA awesome:

twitter.com/GambleMike/status/206434615118925824
"Trying to convince @FionesB to put together a Miranda costume for the summer cons. I was one of the few who stayed true to Miranda!"

Now, if Mike Gamble agrees to wear that costume, then we are really getting somewhere

[jtav]

MASSEFFECTfanforlife101 wrote...

Hey, wasn't Miri originally Intended to be a Love Interest for both MaleShep AND FemShep? I wonder why they cut the FemShep part out? Did they think it would be bad? It would have been a VERY interesting and possibly well written Scenario, just as good with MaleShep.

Hale and Meer record the same script. I doubt it was ever really intended. Which doesn't stop me from shipping them. But then, I ship Miranda with Liara.

Modifié par jtav, 26 mai 2012 - 08:04 .