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[yesikareyes]

flemm wrote...

Yannkee wrote...
No, because I doubt she wants to do to Shepard what she doesn't want for her (see her romance conflict lines in ME2). Also their relationship is based on trust and I doubt she would risk to ruin this for a one night stand. And her behavior during ME3 shows that she certainly didn't do this.

I agree. Anyway, having said that, I guess it could be an interesting idea for a fan fic, to see if one could handle it convincingly.

I've read one where the writer pulls it off. It's quite a challenge and I accepted!  

However, given how Miranda was written in the past games. I could possibly do this scenario if it was AU instead.

Modifié par yesikareyes, 27 mai 2012 - 04:27 .

[Ieldra]

Mr Massakka wrote...

Ieldra2 wrote...

yesikareyes wrote...
Hmm, I thought so. That would explain why it was hard for me to create an unfaithful Miranda. I've always wanted to do that kind of scenario but I guess it will be extremely hard to do so. However, would she do the deed for a mission or if it means the safety of Shepard or Oriana's life?

Yes.

I understand your previous statement, but prostitution for the success of a mission? Doesn't that go a bit too far?

It's a staple of spy fiction. And it's not "prostitution" if you do it for an important goal instead of money.

[MASSEFFECTfanforlife101]

Quorra's Story is very interesting. With Miri as her XO, this time women are completely in charge of the Normandy.

Note: I'm not being all sexist here.

Modifié par MASSEFFECTfanforlife101, 27 mai 2012 - 04:50 .

[Stalker]

Ieldra2 wrote...

Mr Massakka wrote...

Ieldra2 wrote...

yesikareyes wrote...
Hmm, I thought so. That would explain why it was hard for me to create an unfaithful Miranda. I've always wanted to do that kind of scenario but I guess it will be extremely hard to do so. However, would she do the deed for a mission or if it means the safety of Shepard or Oriana's life?

Yes.

I understand your previous statement, but prostitution for the success of a mission? Doesn't that go a bit too far?

It's a staple of spy fiction. And it's not "prostitution" if you do it for an important goal instead of money.

I don't think real spies, no matter how undercover they might be, would go far enough to a sexual encounter with some target. Definitely seducing, some touches and kisses here and there, but the real deed would never happen for the sake of a mission. 

Well, I am no special agent so I can't tell for sure, but I am of the opnion that it's too far. Not for Cerberus, not for the life of some important person. There are always opportunities. 

Modifié par Mr Massakka, 27 mai 2012 - 05:03 .

[Vertigo_1]

3 days left for submissions for the Miranda FanBook!***

Group: social.bioware.com/group/7217/&v=discussions#group

The book will incude letter, art and fiction. Submissions can be sent to mirandafanbook@gmail.com or to myself or flemm via PM.

***Exceptions to this are being made for large projects such as cosplay and comics, rest assured you will have more time to complete these

My updated and less rant-y letter:

Dear Bioware,

I'd like to thank the team for creating the Mass Effect universe.  It's been quite the ride since 2008 when I picked up Mass 1 due to general boredom.  I never thought I'd like the game and the series as much as I do now.
My favorite character in all the games so far has to be Miranda Lawson.  I found her to be a complex character, starting as standoffish and not entirely trusting of Shepard in Mass Effect 2 but over time opening up to him about her upbringing and her situation with her family.  I also got to hear how she believed in Cerberus's goals for the advancement of the human race.                                       //need to work on this part 
When Mass Effect 3 was announced I was excited to see everyone from before, especially Miranda and what she was up to.
Unfortunately I found Miranda's character lacking in ME3.  She didn't have that complexity that I (I'm sure others) loved in Mass 2. Most of her dialog was about Oriana, which to me, was a little grating.  I'm not saying she shouldn't worry about her but I was expecting more on other topics, especially during the first conversation you have with her.  For example, there was little dialog on Cerberus and what became of it.  I found this particularly odd considering how long she was with the organization and how loyal she was to the cause during ME2.  Meanwhile, Jacob felt blindsighted with the Illusive Man's actions even though he wasn't in the organization for long and during Mass 2 mentioned how he never really trusted him. 
I wouldn't have minded if the first two conversations were cut just to have her there at Cronos Station (either there with you or feeding you info from the Normandy).  I know that doing something like this would be almost impossible technically, but in the future if there's a chance (through DLC or perhaps a HomeWorlds comic) if we could get more of her and that other side we love I think we would all appreciate it!

Thanks
Vertigo_1 (@_Vertigo_1 on Twitter)

Another preview for the comic!



Work continues on it but I like how things are coming together (PS Shepard is suppose be there btw lol)

Any thoughts/comments would be welcome! (letter and/or comic)

[yesikareyes]

Doesn't James Bond sleep with many women? I don't think that ever counts as prostitution. I don't think that made him look like a floozy and all. Maybe in an AU, Miranda would be this type of femme fatale. She won't sleep with just anyone.

Modifié par yesikareyes, 27 mai 2012 - 05:53 .

[Stalker]

yesikareyes wrote...

Doesn't James Bond sleep with many women? I don't think that ever counts as prostitution. I don't think that made him look like a floozy and all. Maybe in an AU, Miranda would be this type of femme fatale. She won't sleep with just anyone.

I don't think that James Bond compares to this situation^^ He does not have someone he loves.

I am certain Miranda had her encounters like this in the past, but not while Shepard is in Alliance custody.

[flemm]

Vertigo_1 wrote...
Work continues on it but I like how things are coming together (PS Shepard is suppose be there btw lol)

I can't wait to see the full set of panels. Looks like it's going to be good

I'd much rather have Miranda be there in person at the end, that's for sure.

Modifié par flemm, 27 mai 2012 - 06:01 .

[Babi_Siha]

yesikareyes wrote...

Doesn't James Bond sleep with many women? I don't think that ever counts as prostitution. I don't think that made him look like a floozy and all. Maybe in an AU, Miranda would be this type of femme fatale. She won't sleep with just anyone.

Yes, but James Bond is a man *hore, him sleeping around has nothing to do with the job. I don't see Miranda going this far.

Modifié par Babi_Siha, 27 mai 2012 - 06:02 .

[yesikareyes]

@Mr. Massakka and Babi

Which is why I think for the scenario or fic I want, an AU would be preferable.

[Stalker]

What's "AU"?

[o Ventus]

Mr Massakka wrote...

What's "AU"?

Alternate Universe.

[yesikareyes]

Alternate Universe.

Like those fics that have Miranda recruiting Shepard for Cerberus or the whole game plot is thrown away but it explores their relationship in a different circumstance. 

EDIT: Ninja'd by o Ventus. 

Modifié par yesikareyes, 27 mai 2012 - 06:09 .

[Stalker]

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Modifié par Mr Massakka, 27 mai 2012 - 06:12 .

[MASSEFFECTfanforlife101]

Quorra Shepard is an AU from My Main Play Through. It is also Parallel Paragon 9With a Bit of Renegade), and Decision-Wise.

Modifié par MASSEFFECTfanforlife101, 27 mai 2012 - 06:12 .

[MisterJB]

yesikareyes wrote...
What is IC? Well, I've always written tragedies and sad stuff... it's my forte. I wanted to do a storyline where Shepard is upset at Miranda for being unfaithful with an ex-Cerberus operative, even if it was for a mission or to blow off steam (like she it didn't mean anything). He breaks it off with her and stuff like that. He pays the price of his immaturity, when she dies and he realizes his foolishness. At first, he doesn't want to go on with the mission (In truth, when Miranda dies... I believe that's the end of the game for me lol) but yeah willingly sacrifices himself for Synthesis.

What you require for this is a break of trust and there are many ways of doing that are more IC=In Character.
For instance, what if Miranda had allowed Kai Leng into the Citadel while, at the same time, warning the Salarian Councilor of what would happen? Not because she wanted the Council dead, but because she wanted the Citadel forcibly pulled into the war and trusted Shepard to stop Leng before he did kill the Council. However, she neglected to tell Shepard.
You can then justify Shepard's anger in several different ways. Many people died, inclunding Thane/Kirrahe/Salarian Councilor; it was far too similar to what TIM did on the Collector Cruiser; etc.

[o Ventus]

Yannkee wrote...

yesikareyes wrote...


Is it possible for Miranda to engage in a one night stand while Shepard is locked up by the Alliance? I mean, I'm thinking she's going through a rough time during the interim and she needs to blow off some steam so she does those iPartner thing or whatever.

Trying to do a fic of my own with that conflict.

No, because I doubt she wants to do to Shepard what she doesn't want for her (see her romance conflict lines in ME2). Also their relationship is based on trust and I doubt she would risk to ruin this for a one night stand. And her behavior during ME3 shows that she certainly didn't do this.

For a mission or to save Shepard/Oriana ? I think she's more clever than that, and she would find an another way, especially since she is in a serious relationship with Shepard.
If she was not in a relationship I think she could consider it, but now I think she would choose a more brutal and as efficient solution.

This, basically.

[hot_heart]

I guess the difference is in intentions. There is no 'true' ME universe so every single person's experience is an alternate universe.

With a fanfic in mind, you either intend it to blend in with a version of what exists or you throw out the major stuff and invent your own.

[yesikareyes]

MisterJB wrote...

What you require for this is a break of trust and there are many ways of doing that are more IC=In Character.
For instance, what if Miranda had allowed Kai Leng into the Citadel while, at the same time, warning the Salarian Councilor of what would happen? Not because she wanted the Council dead, but because she wanted the Citadel forcibly pulled into the war and trusted Shepard to stop Leng before he did kill the Council. However, she neglected to tell Shepard.
You can then justify Shepard's anger in several different ways. Many people died, inclunding Thane/Kirrahe/Salarian Councilor; it was far too similar to what TIM did on the Collector Cruiser; etc.

Ahh, that seems like an awesome scenario. I could use that for my love triangle fic. Thanks JB! I can have Liara come in as well and comfort Shepard. At one point Liara refuses to continue the relationship  with Shep because she knows that he is still in love with Miranda despite his anger but she thought that he would eventually love her again.

Alas, it is too late! Miri dies in his arms.  TRAGIC BUT I LOVE IT.

[Babi_Siha]

yesikareyes wrote...

MisterJB wrote...

What you require for this is a break of trust and there are many ways of doing that are more IC=In Character.
For instance, what if Miranda had allowed Kai Leng into the Citadel while, at the same time, warning the Salarian Councilor of what would happen? Not because she wanted the Council dead, but because she wanted the Citadel forcibly pulled into the war and trusted Shepard to stop Leng before he did kill the Council. However, she neglected to tell Shepard.
You can then justify Shepard's anger in several different ways. Many people died, inclunding Thane/Kirrahe/Salarian Councilor; it was far too similar to what TIM did on the Collector Cruiser; etc.

Ahh, that seems like an awesome scenario. I could use that for my love triangle fic. Thanks JB! I can have Liara come in as well and comfort Shepard. At one point Liara refuses to continue the relationship  with Shep because she knows that he is still in love with Miranda despite his anger but she thought that he would eventually love her again.

Alas, it is too late! Miri dies in his arms.  TRAGIC BUT I LOVE IT.

I like MisterJB's idea. That could work. Although you do know that if you kill Miri Luis will have a heart attack, right?

[hot_heart]

Personally, I think it might be better if Miranda hadn't known Kai Leng would be involved. So she never expected it to get as far or as lethal as it did.

Would also explain going all-out in a fight against him in Sanctuary and being sure to plant a tracer, in some sort of attempt at redemption.

Modifié par hot_heart, 27 mai 2012 - 06:36 .

[o Ventus]

I like MisterJB's idea. That could work. Although you do know that if you kill Miri Luis will have a heart attack, right?

Don't be absurd. I killed Miranda (By Shepard's hand, no less) in my first fic, and Luis took it swimmingly.

[Babi_Siha]

o Ventus wrote...

I like MisterJB's idea. That could work. Although you do know that if you kill Miri Luis will have a heart attack, right?

Don't be absurd. I killed Miranda (By Shepard's hand, no less) in my first fic, and Luis took it swimmingly.

Hahaha. I'd love to see what he wrote about that.

[o Ventus]

Babi_Siha wrote...

o Ventus wrote...

I like MisterJB's idea. That could work. Although you do know that if you kill Miri Luis will have a heart attack, right?

Don't be absurd. I killed Miranda (By Shepard's hand, no less) in my first fic, and Luis took it swimmingly.

Hahaha. I'd love to see what he wrote about that.

Actually, nothing, IIRC. 

If you want (And haven't seen it yet), you can check out my death for Miranda in my signature. Click on Dead Men*.

*Please, for the love of everything that is holy, read the story description if you go and read it. If I get another "Why did you change Sanctuary form how was in-game?????" I think I might hurt someone.

Modifié par o Ventus, 27 mai 2012 - 06:41 .

[yesikareyes]

Actually, if we had no Extended Cut. I would probably be more inclined to do whole Miranda dying scenario and sacrificing Shepard so my mind won't go crazy with the ambiguous Shepard breathing scene.