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[dtrain24]

That's beautiful.

[ripslip]

Ooooh me likey.

[Lawrence0294]

Wow that's really nice

[Dr. Doctor]

The whole "It was all an elaborate ruse" thing on Cronos Station just seemed like bad writing. If TIM only wanted Shepard to see the "good side" of Cerberus why the heck would he have us recruit Jack, or send the Normandy to deal with Overlord, let us go to Pragia, or attempt to rescue Agent Rawlins?

It seems like they wanted to turn Cerberus into an organization of Bond villains and just removed or retconed everything that was neat about the organization from ME2. Either that or that button on Sur'Kesh transported Shepard into some sort of crappy alternate universe.  

Modifié par Dr. Doctor, 10 juin 2012 - 07:26 .

[Ieldra]

Alternative universe seems about right, with Miranda mutilated like that. Hmph. Just playing my femShep/Kaidan game and noticing how much the game has been crippled for Miranda fans by not having her on the team.

Otherwise, I'm enjoying my 2nd replay. Having played ME1 and ME2 in-between, I notice ME3 compares favorably with its predecessors in many aspects, and overall up to Rannoch, in spite of the autodialogue and all.

[fiendishchicken]

Dr. Doctor wrote...

Either that or that button on Sur'Kesh transported Shepard into some sort of crappy alternate universe.  

I love Ren & Stimpy!  One of the best cartoons ever made!

[AussieGiant]

flemm wrote...

fiendishchicken wrote...
It's more of a sudden stopping point, with the absolute bare minimum of exposition and conclusion tacked on. 

I pretty much agree, yeah. The game might as well crash to desktop automatically after the squad member farewells.

It would be more merciful and less irritating

LMAO!!

[Skullheart]

fiendishchicken wrote...

I love Ren & Stimpy!  One of the best cartoons ever made!

u gotta love the old nicktoons.

[fiendishchicken]

Skullheart wrote...

fiendishchicken wrote...

I love Ren & Stimpy!  One of the best cartoons ever made!

u gotta love the old nicktoons.

I look at that show now, and I realize how whacked up it really was. I'm surprised I didn't become a psychopath because of that show.

[Vertigo_1]

Posting an update to the Miranda postcards project...
Locals we have in mind:

Monaco:
Track @ Monaco (Mr Massakka is working on that right now)

Paris:
Yannkee suggested Eifel Tower, Arc de Triomphe, Notre-Dame

Australia:
Sydney opera house
Ayers Rock

New York City:
Statue of Liberty
Lincoln Center
Opera house @ Lincoln Center

Greece:
Parthenon
Acropolis
Theatre of Dionysos
Sartorini

Italy:
Venice

London:
Prudii made a suggestion for New Scotland Yard and/or Palace of Westminster (which includes Big Ben btw)

Italy:
Venice

Tokyo:
Nothing for that yet

Just letting everyone know.  Some of the locals listed have pictures up @ the #FindMiranda postcard thread here: social.bioware.com/group/7341/discussion/22341/
Looking forward to hearing your thoughts there!

Modifié par Vertigo_1, 10 juin 2012 - 10:54 .

[flemm]

Well, that's pretty cool. I don't really know Tokyo at all. So... not sure what to look for there.

[dtrain24]

Suggestions: Times Square in NYC, and the Roman Colosseum and Trevi Fountain in Italy.

[jtav]

So having done new romances for Kaidan and Liara, I don't think Miranda's romance content is that bad. At least it's threaded through all your interaction with her instead of being mostly restricted to a lock-in conversation.

[hot_heart]

Really? Hell, Liara was never my LI and even I felt like I had a romance with her.

[Dr. Doctor]

ME1 Liara was fine, but the whole "I hunted down your corpse and had Cerberus resurrect it because I couldn't stand the though of losing you!" thing is really creepy if you didn't romance her.

[dtrain24]

Dr. Doctor wrote...

ME1 Liara was fine, but the whole "I hunted down your corpse and had Cerberus resurrect it because I couldn't stand the though of losing you!" thing is really creepy if you didn't romance her.

Agreed.
Also, I was thinking.
Did the Alliance actually have a right to place Shepard in custody after the events of Arrival? Shepard's a spectre, and they're supposedly above the law. You would think he could just tell the Alliance to go to hell, he wasn't even working for them at that point.

[Lawrence0294]

dtrain24 wrote...

Dr. Doctor wrote...

ME1 Liara was fine, but the whole "I hunted down your corpse and had Cerberus resurrect it because I couldn't stand the though of losing you!" thing is really creepy if you didn't romance her.

Agreed.
Also, I was thinking.
Did the Alliance actually have a right to place Shepard in custody after the events of Arrival? Shepard's a spectre, and they're supposedly above the law. You would think he could just tell the Alliance to go to hell, he wasn't even working for them at that point.

I think shepard could've not gone but decided it was best to avoid political frictions between the alliance and the batarians

[jtav]

I don't think killing 300k people over a threat no one believes in is covered under Spectre immunity.

[CrutchCricket]

jtav wrote...

I don't think killing 300k people over a threat no one believes in is covered under Spectre immunity.

Doesn't matter. The Alliance still can't touch him. As a Spectre only the Council has power over him. Even if he had to stand trial, it should've been the Council's doing.

That's one of the reasons it galls me to be back with the Alliance. I shouldn't have to take any crap from them, being reinstated in 2 and again in 3 for some reason. Shepard's a Spectre, Spectres deal with galactic threats, the Reapers are a galactic threat, I should be dealing with them as a Spectre (i.e. on my own, rallying everyone to me, not to the Alliance, and Earth).

Modifié par CrutchCricket, 11 juin 2012 - 01:09 .

[Dr. Doctor]

 @Cricket

During Rear Admiral Mikhailovich's inspection during ME1 it's stated that while Shepard is a Council Spectre he's still an officer of the Alliance Navy. From the standpoint of the Alliance government it's probably an incredibly useful thing to have an asset that can go anywhere and do anything without fear of reprisal from the Council. Look at all of the messes Shepard has to clean up for Hackett in ME1. 

As for the technical standpoint of Arrival it sort of had to be done for the intro of ME3 to make sense. Not that it made much sense if you didn't play Arrival but we can add it to the pile of issues with ME3's plot.

From a storytelling standpoint, I usually do Arrival right after Horizon. Shepard's just been called a traitor by the VS, lied to by TIM, and thrown under the bus by Anderson and the Council. Accepting Hackett's offer and rescuing Kenson is a chance for him to get back into the Alliance's good graces and away from Cerberus. That hope dissolves the minute the relay explodes. Shepard's stuck between a rock and a hard place he's either going to his death beyond the Omega-4 relay or he'll live long enough to be thrown to the dogs by the Alliance. Sort of the worst week of Shepard's life.

[o Ventus]

dtrain24 wrote...

Dr. Doctor wrote...

ME1 Liara was fine, but the whole "I hunted down your corpse and had Cerberus resurrect it because I couldn't stand the though of losing you!" thing is really creepy if you didn't romance her.

Agreed.
Also, I was thinking.
Did the Alliance actually have a right to place Shepard in custody after the events of Arrival? Shepard's a spectre, and they're supposedly above the law. You would think he could just tell the Alliance to go to hell, he wasn't even working for them at that point.

Also agreed.

Off topic, but I finished my 1st DA:O playthrough (I still hate myself for getting rid of the disc so long ago). Why are the endings in that game so satisfying? Especially for my male Warden, since I romanced Morrigan (Did the ritual) and played Witch Hunt after Awakening. Does the ritual ever come up in DA2? If it doesn't, then it really needs to be a plot point in DA3.

Modifié par o Ventus, 11 juin 2012 - 02:54 .

[Skullheart]

Because, the endings of DAO makes sense?

Because at least you can know what happens after the game? there aren't many loose ends, you fell you achieved something, no star child,no space grandpha.

Regarding things like assembling an army to fight against a powerful enemy, DAO>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>ME3

[fiendishchicken]

Dr. Doctor wrote...

 @Cricket

During Rear Admiral Mikhailovich's inspection during ME1 it's stated that while Shepard is a Council Spectre he's still an officer of the Alliance Navy. From the standpoint of the Alliance government it's probably an incredibly useful thing to have an asset that can go anywhere and do anything without fear of reprisal from the Council. Look at all of the messes Shepard has to clean up for Hackett in ME1. 

As for the technical standpoint of Arrival it sort of had to be done for the intro of ME3 to make sense. Not that it made much sense if you didn't play Arrival but we can add it to the pile of issues with ME3's plot.

From a storytelling standpoint, I usually do Arrival right after Horizon. Shepard's just been called a traitor by the VS, lied to by TIM, and thrown under the bus by Anderson and the Council. Accepting Hackett's offer and rescuing Kenson is a chance for him to get back into the Alliance's good graces and away from Cerberus. That hope dissolves the minute the relay explodes. Shepard's stuck between a rock and a hard place he's either going to his death beyond the Omega-4 relay or he'll live long enough to be thrown to the dogs by the Alliance. Sort of the worst week of Shepard's life.

My Shepard told RAM where to shove it during his inspection, using spectre authority to bar him access, and was a general ass, telling al-jilani that he didn't give a damn about what people thought. And after all the crap that the alliance has done to him, Shepard is done with them as an organization. Hackett and Anderson (I made Udina councilor) are really the only two people he respects in the alliance. I see Hackett as trusting his (shepard's) judgements if not his motives and Shepard more or less reciprocates this though he doesn't trust the alliance when Hackett has him do the side-quests. And as for Anderson after Horizon, I see him as under strict orders to keep Shepard in the dark about the Alliance investigating him. After Arrival, I see the alliance blackmailing shepard and arresting him (i.e. using info on him w/ Cerberus to imprison his crew, and charge him with capital offense for treason) and the council rules that it will make no ruling on shepard to prevent any hostility from further simmering between the humans and batarians. Shepard is thus forcibly reintegrated into the alliance, where he understands he's in deep s**t, and agrees to shut up on the condition that the alliance do more to prepare and not go after Cerberus or his former crew. But then Anderson does so anyway with the Turians.

[CrutchCricket]

Dr. Doctor wrote...

 @Cricket

During Rear Admiral Mikhailovich's inspection during ME1 it's stated that while Shepard is a Council Spectre he's still an officer of the Alliance Navy. From the standpoint of the Alliance government it's probably an incredibly useful thing to have an asset that can go anywhere and do anything without fear of reprisal from the Council. Look at all of the messes Shepard has to clean up for Hackett in ME1. 

As for the technical standpoint of Arrival it sort of had to be done for the intro of ME3 to make sense. Not that it made much sense if you didn't play Arrival but we can add it to the pile of issues with ME3's plot.

From a storytelling standpoint, I usually do Arrival right after Horizon. Shepard's just been called a traitor by the VS, lied to by TIM, and thrown under the bus by Anderson and the Council. Accepting Hackett's offer and rescuing Kenson is a chance for him to get back into the Alliance's good graces and away from Cerberus. That hope dissolves the minute the relay explodes. Shepard's stuck between a rock and a hard place he's either going to his death beyond the Omega-4 relay or he'll live long enough to be thrown to the dogs by the Alliance. Sort of the worst week of Shepard's life.

Sure it may be useful for the Alliance but for Shepard it's nothing but a hassle, constantly cleaning up their messes. And Alliance officer or not, Spectre status means he's untouchable. He could resign by means of crapping on Hackett's desk and they could do nothing about it. In fact I'm surprised Spectres aren't required to resign from any other public service post to prevent conflicts of interest. But regardless the Alliance does not have the authority to force Shepard to go along with the trial for Arrival. His agreeing to it is merely political, to keep the Alliance from wasting time chasing him or ****ing to the Council.

I don't think the intro should've been on Earth and I don't think Earth should've counted for any more than any other homeworld in the narrative. From a technical standpoint they could've made the Earth mission more elaborate as a nod to our actual world. But in-universe it should have the same significance as any other homeworld. And Shepard should've been independent in uniting the races with the Shadow Broker providing the personal resources the Council would not give.

And as for Arrival it should've been the Council who calls him to trial. Not only are they the only ones who actually have the authority in all cases but if we're also worried about politics and how it looks to the Batarians, I'm sure they'd be more pleased with the Council, an independent over-encompassing institution dispensing justice, rather than the human Alliance who might just put on a show and cover their own man.

I do Arrival after the SM and just headcannon recieving the call from Hackett afterwards (I stop checking my email after Horizon). My Shepard doesn't give a damn about the Alliance or Cerberus. He tolerates them as a means to an end. Certain people like Hackett and Anderson have won his respect which is why he'll do Hackett's missions, and go along with the trial. But I think he's only willing to tolerate them so far and if the Reapers hadn't attacked, it wouldn't have been long before he got fed up and broke out (or been rescued by his allies).

[o Ventus]

I do think that Shepard being under Alliance jurisdiction (Despite being a Spectre) is completely stupid, and is a poor excuse for getting the old crew off the ship.