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"I'll always want you in my life." Miranda Lawson in Mass Effect 3


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CrutchCricket wrote...

Not really. One of the few times the philosophical question of "Is Shepard the same Shepard as before Lazarus" is actually addressed mentioned. It does not conflict at all with the discussion with Miranda as that is centered around free will and the right to it.


I basically agree. There's no real conflict between the two. If anything they both tend to underline the idea that the Lazarus Project was a near miraculous occurence that is hard to fully grasp or understand.

"I don't know how, but you brought me back."

versus

"Am I really *back*, or am I someone new?"

Maybe Miranda knows how it happened, but nobody else really seems to.

Modifié par flemm, 13 juin 2012 - 06:36 .


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flemm wrote...


I basically agree. There's no real conflict between the two. If anything they both tend to underline the idea that the Lazarus Project was a near miraculous occurence that is hard to fully grasp or understand.

"I don't know how, but you brought me back."

versus

"Am I really *back*, or am I someone new?"

Maybe Miranda knows how it happened, but nobody else really seems to.


What confuses me is that Shepard had the opportunity to ask Miranda about Lazarus multiple times during ME2 and a few times during ME3, yet the only time Shepard asks the "Who am I?" question is on Cronos right at the end of the game.

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Dr. Doctor wrote...


What confuses me is that Shepard had the opportunity to ask Miranda about Lazarus multiple times during ME2 and a few times during ME3, yet the only time Shepard asks the "Who am I?" question is on Cronos right at the end of the game.



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That said, it might be one of those things that shouldn't be spelled out. I would like it to come up again between Miranda and Shepard, though.

Modifié par flemm, 13 juin 2012 - 07:48 .


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This is going to be one of those stupid questions, inspired by gameplay mechanics, but I'm going to ask it anyway JUST TRY AND STOP ME

Miranda uses a kinetic barrier rather than a biotic one, right? I mean, we know she's capable of creating a biotic barrier (just not on the same level as some...) but sentinels use shields rather than biotics. Unless maybe you can use both, and the blue/purple distinction is purely gameplay balance-related.

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Yeah, she uses shields.

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flemm wrote...

Dr. Doctor wrote...

What confuses me is that Shepard had the opportunity to ask Miranda about Lazarus multiple times during ME2 and a few times during ME3, yet the only time Shepard asks the "Who am I?" question is on Cronos right at the end of the game.


That confuses me, too Image IPB

That said, it might be one of those things that shouldn't be spelled out. I would like it to come up again between Miranda and Shepard, though.

It shouldn't be answered, I agree. But that it hasn't even been brought up is yet another storytelling failure. I can't imagine that this wouldn't be on most Shepard's minds, and that they wouldn't go to the person who likely knows best for answers.

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hot_heart wrote...
This is going to be one of those stupid questions, inspired by gameplay mechanics, but I'm going to ask it anyway JUST TRY AND STOP ME

Miranda uses a kinetic barrier rather than a biotic one, right? I mean, we know she's capable of creating a biotic barrier (just not on the same level as some...) but sentinels use shields rather than biotics. Unless maybe you can use both, and the blue/purple distinction is purely gameplay balance-related.

Away from game mechanics, I would always assume that a biotic can create a barrier. Kinetic shields are a function of armor. It should be possible to have both on.

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Can you still romance Miranda if you let her kill Niket ?

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Ieldra2 wrote...

flemm wrote...

Dr. Doctor wrote...

What confuses me is that Shepard had the opportunity to ask Miranda about Lazarus multiple times during ME2 and a few times during ME3, yet the only time Shepard asks the "Who am I?" question is on Cronos right at the end of the game.


That confuses me, too Image IPB

That said, it might be one of those things that shouldn't be spelled out. I would like it to come up again between Miranda and Shepard, though.

It shouldn't be answered, I agree. But that it hasn't even been brought up is yet another storytelling failure. I can't imagine that this wouldn't be on most Shepard's minds, and that they wouldn't go to the person who likely knows best for answers.


Meh, it would have been fun to see vids of the actual operation like that time Wilson "got the numbers wrong" an extended scene from ME2.  Maybe a few others where Miranda is the one talking to TIM and not some random scientist. And one where they bring in his corpse ("meat and tubes" as Jacob describes it)

And this is something I'd have wanted to see in Cronos station btw.

Modifié par Vertigo_1, 13 juin 2012 - 09:37 .


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kratos0294 wrote...

Can you still romance Miranda if you let her kill Niket ?


Yes. Killing/sparing Niket doesn't affect getting her loyalty or getting her romance. The choice is reflected in a few lines of dialogue, and that's it. Personally, I let her kill Niket every time I do her loyalty mission.

Modifié par ripslip, 13 juin 2012 - 09:38 .


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Edit: whoopsies

Modifié par ripslip, 13 juin 2012 - 09:37 .


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Vertigo_1

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Dont mind me I'm just here to say:

#FINDMIRANDA POSTERS HAVE BEEN DELIVERED TO BIOWARE! =D
tools.usps.com/go/TrackConfirmAction

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Vertigo_1 wrote...

Dont mind me I'm just here to say:

#FINDMIRANDA POSTERS HAVE BEEN DELIVERED TO BIOWARE! =D
tools.usps.com/go/TrackConfirmAction


That's awesome news!

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Vertigo_1 wrote...
It shouldn't be answered, I agree. But that it hasn't even been brought up is yet another storytelling failure. I can't imagine that this wouldn't be on most Shepard's minds, and that they wouldn't go to the person who likely knows best for answers.


Miranda: How does it feel, now that you've been brought back?

Shepard: I never asked for this.

Miranda: (sighs) Really Shepard?

Edit:

Great! Let's see if we hear any feedback!

Modifié par Dr. Doctor, 13 juin 2012 - 09:46 .


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Yay!

#52842
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Vertigo_1 wrote...

Dont mind me I'm just here to say:

#FINDMIRANDA POSTERS HAVE BEEN DELIVERED TO BIOWARE! =D
tools.usps.com/go/TrackConfirmAction


YAY

Little miranda picture to celebrate =D

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Modifié par kratos0294, 13 juin 2012 - 09:45 .


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Vertigo_1

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If you have twitter, this might be a good time to do the #FindMiranda message to the devs =P

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Vertigo_1 wrote...

Dont mind me I'm just here to say:

#FINDMIRANDA POSTERS HAVE BEEN DELIVERED TO BIOWARE! =D
tools.usps.com/go/TrackConfirmAction


Great news! :wizard: Now we just have to see the twitter, hopefully people over there will be happy with our campaign.

Here's some Miranda to celebrate:

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I had to post the picture above, my two fave characters.

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Sorry for the spam of pictures.

#52845
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Just posting this pic here so there won't have a double postand because I thought their stare was funny. My bad, guys!

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Modifié par Babi_Siha, 13 juin 2012 - 10:13 .


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Stupid BSN trolling me. Anyone knows how to delete double posts?

#52847
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Not sure if you can. Just edit it with a picture or something to make the post mean something, haha.

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dtrain24 wrote...

Not sure if you can. Just edit it with a picture or something to make the post mean something, haha.


Thanks! =D Actually I just did that.

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Vertigo_1 wrote...

Dont mind me I'm just here to say:

#FINDMIRANDA POSTERS HAVE BEEN DELIVERED TO BIOWARE! =D
tools.usps.com/go/TrackConfirmAction



Awesome Image IPB



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