hot_heart wrote...
As far as I'm aware, wasn't it BioWare that didn't contact Beattie? I seem to recall he even made an appeal to fans so he could return as Mordin.
Modifié par flemm, 17 juin 2012 - 06:39 .
Modifié par ripslip, 17 juin 2012 - 07:25 .
Yes. Just replaying the genophage plot which he also wrote. "Eve" is almost convincing me to cure it in spite of having been determined not to because of Wreave.jtav wrote...
Tongue partly in cheek: The easiest fix for the romance is to get Dombrow to write it. Since he currently has me squeeing over Garrus, I'd love to see him handle Miranda.
Modifié par flemm, 17 juin 2012 - 08:11 .
flemm wrote...
Part of what I despise about Miranda's role in this game is how fundamentally dishonest it is.
Fact: She is being condemned for crimes we never see her commit, and that she denies committing in ME2. She has simply been declared guilty by association with Cerberus behind closed doors in between games. But they are afraid to say that openly because too many people like her.
So, in essence, she is condemned to death without a trial, then pardoned for no other reason than death being the only option would have pissed too many people off.
Justice is not done either way. There has to be a trial, and the question of Miranda's responsability for her involvement with Cerberus had to be addressed openly in the game itself. This is part of what people mean when they say there had to be a "Cerberus Arc," and there isn't one.
The infertility is also like that. An idea that adds an entirely new element to the character, and could mean any number of different things, has to be addressed in the game, not introduced in a text file in between games, and then referred to only obliquely in a death scene.
It's dishonest and an insult to my intelligence.
Modifié par flemm, 17 juin 2012 - 08:32 .
flemm wrote...
Part of what I despise about Miranda's role in this game is how fundamentally dishonest it is.
Fact: She is being condemned for crimes we never see her commit, and that she denies committing in ME2. She has simply been declared guilty by association with Cerberus behind closed doors in between games. But they are afraid to say that openly because too many people like her.
So, in essence, she is condemned to death without a trial, then pardoned for no other reason than death being the only option would have pissed too many people off.
Justice is not done either way. There has to be a trial, and the question of Miranda's responsability for her involvement with Cerberus had to be addressed openly in the game itself. This is part of what people mean when they say there had to be a "Cerberus Arc," and there isn't one.
The infertility is also like that. An idea that adds an entirely new element to the character, and could mean any number of different things, has to be addressed in the game, not introduced in a text file in between games, and then referred to only obliquely in a death scene.
It's dishonest and an insult to my intelligence.
hot_heart wrote...
Miranda never really had much to say about the genophage in ME2, did she? I kinda wish they had a bit more of the ME3-style post-mission talk stuff along with the open-ended conversations in ME2.
Plus half of these talks were a comedy show anyway...o Ventus wrote...
hot_heart wrote...
Miranda never really had much to say about the genophage in ME2, did she? I kinda wish they had a bit more of the ME3-style post-mission talk stuff along with the open-ended conversations in ME2.
It's funny, because we were promised deeper interaction with each person on the ship.
My meaning of "deeper interaction" must be off, because I don't consider the Zaeed and Kasumi-styled nonversations (Because face it, they aren't conversations) to be deep at all, or even interaction.
Modifié par hot_heart, 17 juin 2012 - 08:53 .
hot_heart wrote...
Yeah, I called it 'talk stuff' for a reason. Problem is that a lot of the time you were just hearing similar thoughts about each mission. "They were doing bad things", "Reapers are scary and I don't like them", "It's a shame that person died", "It was good that we killed those bad guys"
Modifié par o Ventus, 17 juin 2012 - 08:56 .
:/jtav wrote...
I think compilng the fanbook might have crystallized that we got exactly what we didn't want.
Sometimes they did. Possibly more in ME1. In ME3 they nearly always had something to say...but it wasn't always insightful or interesting. I did like the funny exchanges though. You always need some levity.o Ventus wrote...
I remember back in ME1+2, your squadmates actually gave you their opinion on the missions you took them on.
hot_heart wrote...
Sometimes they did. Possibly more in ME1. In ME3 they nearly always had something to say...but it wasn't always insightful or interesting. I did like the funny exchanges though. You always need some levity.o Ventus wrote...
I remember back in ME1+2, your squadmates actually gave you their opinion on the missions you took them on.
It's definitely a level of interaction (even if basic) that should've featured more, especially looking at how varied ME2 could be thanks to the cast and types of missions.
jtav wrote...
Okay, if Miranda was a squad member, where would you put her interactive talks? For myself:
1. Sur'Kesh
2. Post-coup
3. Sanctuary
4. Cronos
Modifié par o Ventus, 17 juin 2012 - 09:07 .
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