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[o Ventus]

flemm wrote...

Vertigo_1 wrote...

I believe that's been dropped, sorry

Ah well. Guess I will just have to obtain the pie of my choice by conventional means

You cannot obtain pie by conventional means. It is simply impossible.

You will require the assistance of a deus ex machina device hidden deep in the archives at the Bakery, passed down through hundreds of generations of bakers.

On your adventure, you must collect "Ingredients" to increase your "Effective Culinary Score" to unlock new flavors of pie.

[LanceSolous13]

o Ventus wrote...

flemm wrote...

Vertigo_1 wrote...

I believe that's been dropped, sorry

Ah well. Guess I will just have to obtain the pie of my choice by conventional means

You cannot obtain pie by conventional means. It is simply impossible.

You will require the assistance of a deus ex machina device hidden deep in the archives at the Bakery, passed down through hundreds of generations of bakers.

On your adventure, you must collect "Ingredients" to increase your "Effective Culinary Score" to unlock new flavors of pie.

These amazing flavors range from Lime, Cherry, and BlueBerry!

[Caihn]

krukow wrote...

Hey, I have a question about the Mirimance. I'm usually an Ashmancer (obv per my pic), but the only other character I romance is Miri (and it's only one or the other, because I am not breaking up with Miri if I romance her(hardest scene to watch in ME3. I'd rather shoot Mordin in the back while pushing Tali off the cliff than break up with Miri)). So anyways...

I've seen complaints about how Miri deserved more than a fade to black. I guess I get that, since ME is famous for it's Top Gun style love scenes, but in my opinion, Miri's romance and arc are pretty awesome with only 2 glaring omissions:
1. She should have been a potential squad member. It makes all kinds of sense that she come on the Normandy (safest place to hide from cerberus assasins, and clearly the aliance doesn't mind ex-cerberus since one of the missions is saving ex-cerberus scientists). She was the most important ME2 squad-mate, and it was the higer selling of the two games, so she should have been more present.
2. If Shepard survives, he obviously needs to find her. This obviously falls under the more universal "shepard should have a reunion with his LI if (s)he survives", but even more. The "find me" thing with Miranda was as touching as any of the last convos (I put it right up there with Ash telling Shepard she didn't want him to go).

So anyways, I'm a bit drunk and I may have lost my point, but aren't my two points the only real problem? Like, if the ec fixed point 2, and a future DLC fixed point one, wouldn't you say that Miri's romance was as good as anyone's?

The problem of the romance scene is not really the fade to black (even if I would love to see a longer version). It's how the scene ends : no pillow talk, no romantic conversation, no goodbye .. just Shepard teleported out of the room. I would not care if there was an another romance scene/conversation before the end .. but this scene is the only thing we've got.

I agree about your 2 omissions :

1 - She should have been a squadmate. I like the ME3 content, but she clearly needs a lot more. I was always against the idea of an offscreen Miranda because I knew what it would mean for the character. The problem is what is missing, not what is in the game. She needs more conversations, more screen time to show ALL the aspects of her character. She could have been on the Normandy for a few missions like Mordin, but I don't like the idea because to me Miranda is also a woman of action. And not seeing her alongside Shepard during some missions is painful.

2 - Yeah, all LI should have the possibility to have a positive outcome. My Shepard keeps his promises, he needs to find her.

Modifié par Yannkee, 23 juin 2012 - 08:26 .

[Caihn]

I think Miranda should have been a squadmate after the coup. Especially if you refuse to give the access of the Normandy to the VS.
Miranda can finish to search her sister (using the Alliance and the SB ressources), and put down Cerberus with you.
No need to say she would have a real romance scene like the other squadmates just before the last mission.

Modifié par Yannkee, 23 juin 2012 - 08:32 .

[o Ventus]

Yannkee wrote...

I think Miranda should have been a squadmate after the coup. Especially if you refuse to give the access of the Normandy to the VS.
Miranda can finish to search her sister (using the Alliance and the SB ressources), and put down Cerberus with you.
No need to say she would have a real romance scene like the other squadmates just before the last mission.

Definitely. The plausibility of such a scenario is almost to a level where I can scarcely believe Bioware actually didn't do something like this. the set up is almost perfect, especially considering her lack of a Cerberus arc.

And I agree with you on the romance scene in your last post. Going from the interior of the room, to the fade-to-black, then being magically teleported outside just felt... strange. If I didn't know any better, I'd say Shepard just went in for a quick lay then ran out before he could confess any feelings.

[MisterJB]

fiendishchicken wrote...
I got to say, the level of denial that those two have over what's really wrong with the game reminds me of the former members of a certain political group dedicated to national socialism that took to power in Germany in the early-mid 20th century, and were responsible for the bloodiest human cataclysm in recorded history. 

Please do not compare the less than satisfactory ending of a videogame to the Holocaust.

[fiendishchicken]

MisterJB wrote...

fiendishchicken wrote...
I got to say, the level of denial that those two have over what's really wrong with the game reminds me of the former members of a certain political group dedicated to national socialism that took to power in Germany in the early-mid 20th century, and were responsible for the bloodiest human cataclysm in recorded history. 

Please do not compare the less than satisfactory ending of a videogame to the Holocaust.

Well from my perspective, their denial of whats wrong simply reminds me of, well, some Post-war SS members who denied involvement and claimed that they had done nothing to any other humans. Yep, Godwin's Law at it's finest. Btw love your user image I1 Trust. Back to Miranda...

Modifié par fiendishchicken, 23 juin 2012 - 02:34 .

[o Ventus]

fiendishchicken wrote...

Back to Miranda...

Alrighty then.



My only problem with this is that her eyes are royal blue, not green.

[fiendishchicken]

o Ventus wrote...

fiendishchicken wrote...

Back to Miranda...

Alrighty then.



My only problem with this is that her eyes are royal blue, not green.

I just edited the eyes to be blue. don't know how to post pictures though

[o Ventus]

fiendishchicken wrote...

o Ventus wrote...

fiendishchicken wrote...

Back to Miranda...

Alrighty then.

*snip*

My only problem with this is that her eyes are royal blue, not green.

I just edited the eyes to be blue. don't know how to post pictures though

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Modifié par o Ventus, 23 juin 2012 - 03:20 .

[CrutchCricket]

fiendishchicken wrote...

https://twitter.com/...297244826157057

Apparently, The EC will only be 10 minutes long. Oh well, they kept everything we hate about the ending and the podcast shows that Hudson and Walters are UTTERLY OBLIVIOUS to everything that is wrong with the ending.

You expected something different?

There's a nice little verbal jab in the podcast at the members of the HTL movement, of which I am a member, saying that if we don't like the EC and complain about it, we as fans are no longer welcome by Bioware, and that they don't need us. 

That seriously hurts. I am seriously offended by that statement. 

I didn't pick up on this when I heard it but I wouldn't be surprised. Despite the intensity with which I raged at all this bull**** in the past, I am slowly but surely sinking into total apathy. They can still go **** themselves but I am washing my hands of this whole mess.

Modifié par CrutchCricket, 23 juin 2012 - 03:52 .

[Taboo]

I don't think they can make Miranda a squadmate, at least a permanent one. I believe she has to be on disc for that to happen, like Kasumi or Javik. The reason for this is dialogue, it would get mixed up and cause some serious issues.

Now, that doesn't mean that we can't ask for DLC with her. I think some Cerberus DLC is in order, it's sorely needed, and Miss Lawson would be great for that.

Also the DLC is ten minutes long with variations based on YOUR playthrough. It isn't just ten static minutes for all the endings. Pay attention. That's why it's 1.9 GB.

Modifié par Taboo-XX, 23 juin 2012 - 04:01 .

[CrutchCricket]

Taboo-XX wrote...

I don't think they can make Miranda a squadmate, at least a permanent one. I believe she has to be on disc for that to happen, like Kasumi or Javik.

Uhm...what? Was Kasumi on the ME2 disc? What about Zaeed?

[Stalker]

There's a nice little verbal jab in the podcast at the members of the HTL movement, of which I am a member, saying that if we don't like the EC and complain about it, we as fans are no longer welcome by Bioware, and that they don't need us. 

That seriously hurts. I am seriously offended by that statement. 

If that's true, I have reached a point where BioWare died for me as well.
The company BioWare behaves to the outside world like crying 5-year olds: "Don't like it? Then don't talk to me. I am the one who is right, so shut up! That's MY game!".
They even seem to see the EC as something where they meet us peasants half way, but it isn't. All it does is to show us how wrong and stupid we all are. They "clarify" it all for us dumb people.

[o Ventus]

Taboo-XX wrote...

I don't think they can make Miranda a squadmate, at least a permanent one. I believe she has to be on disc for that to happen, like Kasumi or Javik. The reason for this is dialogue, it would get mixed up and cause some serious issues.

Out of all the DLC squadmates from ME2+3, only Javik was on-disc before release. Zaeed and Kasumi weren't.

[flemm]

CrutchCricket wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...

I don't think they can make Miranda a squadmate, at least a permanent one. I believe she has to be on disc for that to happen, like Kasumi or Javik.

Uhm...what? Was Kasumi on the ME2 disc? What about Zaeed?

I think Zaeed was day one. So maybe he was on the disk? But Kasumi was a later addition, I believe.

I don't think DLC squad members *have* to be on the disk, speaking in abstract terms. However, in ME3 it would apparently be technically very difficult to add one, relative to ME2, I think due to the more robust banter system.

With Kasumi's DLC, you could basically just record what you needed for her LM and the one-liners she has on the ship. But in ME3, you'd need to record with all existing squadmates so that the banter system would function.

Modifié par flemm, 23 juin 2012 - 04:28 .

[o Ventus]

flemm wrote...

CrutchCricket wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...

I don't think they can make Miranda a squadmate, at least a permanent one. I believe she has to be on disc for that to happen, like Kasumi or Javik.

Uhm...what? Was Kasumi on the ME2 disc? What about Zaeed?

I think Zaeed was day one. So maybe he was on the disk? But Kasumi was a later addition, I believe.

I don't think DLC squad members *have* to be on the disk, speaking in abstract terms. However, in ME3 it would be technically very difficult to add one, relative to ME2, I think due to the more robust banter system.

DLC squadmates shouldn't be expected to have a huge amount of banter. If they were, it would be restricted to areas of interest to the character. Example: Miranda with Cerberus levels. She wouldn't necessarily need to comment on every little thing going on, only what's relevant.

The only reason Javik has so much dialogue is because he was developed at the same time as the main game.

Modifié par o Ventus, 23 juin 2012 - 04:18 .

[flemm]

o Ventus wrote...
DLC squadmates shouldn't be expected to have a huge amount of banter. If they were, it would be restricted to areas of interest to the character.

I think the banter system in ME3 is probably the issue. The technical difficulty of adding a full-time/regular squad member in ME3 was something Weekes stated on twitter. I'm just speculating as to the the likely reason that it would be harder in ME3 than in ME2. The more robust banter system is the only thing that comes to mind.

Modifié par flemm, 23 juin 2012 - 04:20 .

[Taboo]

We can always ask. Patrick Weekes would be the guy to talk to.

Kasumi was on disc, as evidenced here on the Mass Effect Wiki.

She had a placeholder and everything, but was only usuable in the last mission.

Modifié par Taboo-XX, 23 juin 2012 - 04:23 .

[o Ventus]

Taboo-XX wrote...

We can always ask. Patrick Weekes would be the guy to talk to.

Kasumi was on disc, as evidenced here on the Mass Effect Wiki.

She had a placeholder and everything, but was only usuable in the last mission.

That doesn't mean she was on-disc. It's both intellectually stupid and bad business to have a piece of content locked on-disc, only to release it 4 months after the game released.

[flemm]

Taboo-XX wrote...

Kasumi was on disc, as evidenced here on the Mass Effect Wiki.

I think I remember someone saying that some of Kasumi's dialogue was on the disk as well. But... I don't remember if her mission and all her dialogue was.

[Taboo]

o Ventus wrote...

That doesn't mean she was on-disc. It's both intellectually stupid and bad business to have a piece of content locked on-disc, only to release it 4 months after the game released.

Other way around I'm afraid. They make you pay to unlock content that is already there.

That's good business, at least to EA. 

[o Ventus]

Taboo-XX wrote...

o Ventus wrote...

That doesn't mean she was on-disc. It's both intellectually stupid and bad business to have a piece of content locked on-disc, only to release it 4 months after the game released.

Other way around I'm afraid. They make you pay to unlock content that is already there.

That's good business, at least to EA. 

I wouldn't put EA on the "good business" pedastal just yet. Their stock has only plummeted since 2008.

And Kasumi wasn't on-disc by the time ME2 released. A handful of files (basic audio and visual), but that's it.

[Vertigo_1]

There's a nice little verbal jab in the podcast at the members of the HTL movement, of which I am a member, saying that if we don't like the EC and complain about it, we as fans are no longer welcome by Bioware, and that they don't need us. 

That seriously hurts. I am seriously offended by that statement. 

CrutchCricket wrote...
I didn't pick up on this when I heard it but I wouldn't be surprised. Despite the intensity with which I raged at all this bull**** in the past, I am slowly but surely sinking into total apathy. They can still go **** themselves but I am washing my hands of this whole mess.

Mr Massakka wrote...
[smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/andy.png[/smilie]
If that's true, I have reached a point where BioWare died for me as well.  The company BioWare behaves to the outside world like crying 5-year olds: "Don't like it? Then don't talk to me. I am the one who is right, so shut up! That's MY game!". They even seem to see the EC as something where they meet us peasants half way, but it isn't. All it does is to
show us how wrong and stupid we all are. They "clarify" it all for us dumb people.

It seems neither of you read my post after that.  It's not directed at those who end up not liking EC.

Modifié par Vertigo_1, 23 juin 2012 - 04:34 .