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[jtav]

She's not aloof. She's tentative and fearful that a)Shepard no longer has any use for her and you're all going to die. She's in love, but it's shown mostly through playfulness. Some people just aren't demonstrative.

[kookie28]

5 bucks says they didn't fix the flashback.

[Taboo]

Five more bucks says that I have to speculate about more ****.

[LanceSolous13]

RamilVenoard wrote...

The fact that she is focused on Ori is not in any way shape or form a problem. It's her aloofness when talking with Shep, with whom I might add she is supposedly in love. They could have easily solved this problem by introducing Miri as a temporary squad member joining Shep to take down TIM's main base and then accompanying him to earth. I think the last mission should have been fought out with your LI and one squad mate of choice. It just makes more narrative sense than having her a hundred miles away communicating by holocall. It's just too forced to have a last conversation that way.

Where is she during that Holovid Call?

Oh ****. Don't tell me she's still at Sanctuary with Ori during the ending?! ...They're going to starve...

[ENorman94]

Anyone else think they should've had a video log in the cerberus base that featured Miranda giving updates to the Illusive Man, instead of some random Cererus scientist?

[MisterJB]

Anyone else think they should have had Miranda at Cronos? Period.

[ENorman94]

MisterJB wrote...

Anyone else think they should have had Miranda at Cronos? Period.

This too, of course. But it would've made it a teensie bit better.

[kookie28]

MisterJB wrote...

Anyone else think they should have had Miranda at Cronos? Period.

That's a big duh.

[jtav]

MisterJB wrote...

I disagree entirely. Her focus on Oriana to the exclusion of everything else is why ME3 was ruined from the very beginning.
It's true, Kai Leng doesn't kill Miranda. Oriana does and we should all hate her for it. Quite frankly, I don't know why Henry wants her back but he can have her.

Ori's awesome. She's pretty resourceful and brave in her own right. Of course, this requires Miranda's death.

But yes, Miranda's love has become toxic.

[LanceSolous13]

ENorman94 wrote...

MisterJB wrote...

Anyone else think they should have had Miranda at Cronos? Period.

This too, of course. But it would've made it a teensie bit better.

I would have been too frightened of Kai Leng, The Love-Interest Killer. He murdered Thane's Romance and he almost got away with killing Miri's!

[kookie28]

I can't believe I'm pacing the floor like crazy for 10 minutes of cutscenes that probably won't have any Miranda sightings.

I'm curious about what happens when Shepard survives though. Any speculations?

[Skullheart]

I think that the majority from us thinks that the exclusion of Miranda in Cronos is just, WTF?

[o Ventus]

Yannkee wrote...

lillitheris wrote...

Personal conflicts on a wartime ship make for a good narrative, but not a great reality. That’s why I left Kaidan on the Citadel…I wouldn’t be able to count on him when the going got tough, he’d shown it twice already.

(Please feel free to disagree, I’m just illustrating a point, not arguing whether or not it’s the right thing to do.)

Except that in Miranda's case you refuse to have on board one of the best asset to take down Cerberus. Besides, Miranda is the perfect example of professionalism, and would work for the interest of the mission not to please everyone on board. I think it's this kind of people Shepard really needs.

Agreed here.

Aside from Jacob, Miranda is Shepard's only existing connection to Cerberus (Not counting EDI since she's unshackled and hasn't "worked" for them long enough). Not having at least one of them is just irresponsible, and Jacob at least has a decent reason to stay behind, while Miranda doesn't.

[ENorman94]

Skullheart wrote...

I think that the majority from us thinks that the exclusion of Miranda in Cronos is just, WTF?

I honestly want to know how they forgot this. Someone should ask a dev.

[MisterJB]

kookie28 wrote...

I can't believe I'm pacing the floor like crazy for 10 minutes of cutscenes that probably won't have any Miranda sightings.

I'm curious about what happens when Shepard survives though. Any speculations?

Put on trial for destroying the basis of Galactic Civilization, I hope.
I will also take crippled for life due to his implants being destroyed along with the Reapers.
Or crushed under a falling Reaper. The irony would be delicious.

Modifié par MisterJB, 24 juin 2012 - 02:34 .

[flemm]

RamilVenoard wrote...

The fact that she is focused on Ori is not in any way shape or form a problem. It's her aloofness when talking with Shep, with whom I might add she is supposedly in love. They could have easily solved this problem by introducing Miri as a temporary squad member joining Shep to take down TIM's main base and then accompanying him to earth.

At which point there would certainly no longer be a problem, that's true 

Modifié par flemm, 24 juin 2012 - 02:37 .

[MASSEFFECTfanforlife101]

Off Topic: What exactly is the point of Motion Blur in ME3? Sometimes I feel like it slows things down.

[jtav]

Easy, JB. At least we know there won't be a clear win ending. But I'd find a crippled Shepard and the dynamic with Miranda sufficiently interesting to choose it.

[Vertigo_1]

ENorman94 wrote...

Skullheart wrote...

I think that the majority from us thinks that the exclusion of Miranda in Cronos is just, WTF?

I honestly want to know how they forgot this. Someone should ask a dev.

Did everyone forget EDI?  If you have her there, then why would you need Miranda?

Not that I disagree or anything, just trying to think like the devs would. 

I'd have done sort of a mission where Miranda is feeding info from the Normandy when Shepards at the base.  Or have her along during the base providing tidbits of info on certain things...like say when you get to the Lazarus vids or the Human Reaper and importantly when confronting TIM.

Modifié par Vertigo_1, 24 juin 2012 - 02:39 .

[o Ventus]

Yannkee wrote...

flemm wrote...

However, I have observed that, for some fans, the primary attraction of the character is the renegade, badass operative side, and the softer side is nice, but not the primary attraction. Whereas, for others, the emotional development within the romance is the main attraction.

Why people should prefer one side of the character ?
Personally (and I'm not the only one), I like both side of her character. I choose the paragon romance because I hate Shepard's behavior during the renegade one, it doesn't mean that Miranda emotional side is my main attraction.
I can't say one aspect is more important (or likable) than the other. This complex personality is what makes the character so interesting.

edit :
makes me think of a wallpaper I made one day
*picture snip*

Also agreed.

I play the romance Paragon (Except for the "Who said anything about love?" line, I loathe it) for a couple reasons, but primarily because I don't like how Shepard acts in the Renegade. He comes off as a bit too much of a dick, even if it's playful. It just doesn't appeal to me.

If the in-game roleplaying had a little more depth, I would keep some of the emotional side contained with the romance and loyalty material, but interact with Miranda on a more professional and competent note during other activities.

[flemm]

Vertigo_1 wrote...

Did everyone forget EDI?  If you have her there, then why would you need Miranda?

Miranda should provide an option there that you don't have otherwise, basically. It's not too different from how the Genophage or Rannoch arcs work, i.e. different outcomes are possible.

So, it's like asking: if you have Wrex, why do you need Mordin?

Possible answers are (that I can think of):

-They didn't have room left on the disk to do a layered arc like that.

-They didn't want that part of the story to have additional layers/multiple outcomes.

-Some combination of the two.

Modifié par flemm, 24 juin 2012 - 02:46 .

[ENorman94]

Vertigo_1 wrote...

ENorman94 wrote...

Skullheart wrote...

I think that the majority from us thinks that the exclusion of Miranda in Cronos is just, WTF?

I honestly want to know how they forgot this. Someone should ask a dev.

Did everyone forget EDI?  If you have her there, then why would you need Miranda?

Not that I disagree or anything, just trying to think like the devs would. 

I'd have done sort of a mission where Miranda is feeding info from the Normandy when Shepards at the base.  Or have her along during the base providing tidbits of info on certain things...like say when you get to the Lazarus vids or the Human Reaper and importantly when confronting TIM.

It would've been a great time for her to elaborate on how project lazarus worked, something that has so far never been fully explained. She could've talked about the technology and so forth. But nope...never happened.

Modifié par ENorman94, 24 juin 2012 - 02:41 .

[MisterJB]

o Ventus wrote...
If the in-game roleplaying had a little more depth, I would keep some of the emotional side contained with the romance and loyalty material, but interact with Miranda on a more professional and competent note during other activities.

Like what already happens by default in ME2?

[MisterJB]

Vertigo_1 wrote...
Did everyone forget EDI?  If you have her there, then why would you need Miranda?

Congratulations, you just made Destroy sound appealing.

[Vertigo_1]

flemm wrote...

Vertigo_1 wrote...

Did everyone forget EDI?  If you have her there, then why would you need Miranda?

Miranda should provide an option there that you don't have otherwise, basically. It's not too different from how the Genophage or Rannoch arcs work, i.e. different outcomes are possible.

So, it's like asking: if you have Wrex, why do you need Mordin?

No that's different, need Mordin to synthesis cure, disperse it via STG computers at Shroud...can't see Wrex doing that.  He's no scientist.

Modifié par Vertigo_1, 24 juin 2012 - 02:49 .