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[LanceSolous13]

Dr. Doctor wrote...

flemm wrote...

*All* of the epilogue slides please me quite a bit. Does it make up for the content in the core game being subpar? No. But, it is still good to see.

Is ME3 perfect? No, I really wish that there was more with the ME2 characters and Cerberus.

Is the ending perfect? No, I'm not the biggest fan of the whole organic/synthetic conflict that they went with. However, being able to find out more about the Catalyst, Crucible, and Reapers helped quite a bit.

Ditto. The ending has so many issues still, but I can live with it at this point.

[flemm]

Basically, the original ending was like a rough draft or outline of an idea, nothing more. It should never have made it into the finished product in that form. It's no mystery why people were so repulsed by it.

Miranda's control slide is really the most interesting, I think.

Modifié par flemm, 27 juin 2012 - 12:49 .

[Jackster94]

Yes I would of thought there would be more discussion of her in control. to me it felt that she and oriana were plotting against the Shepard controlled reapers

[LanceSolous13]

Jackster94 wrote...

Yes I would of thought there would be more discussion of her in control. to me it felt that she and oriana were plotting against the Shepard controlled reapers

Or, as one fan ending I read mentioned, Trying to find a way to bring Shep back?

[flemm]

Jackster94 wrote...

Yes I would of thought there would be more discussion of her in control. to me it felt that she and oriana were plotting against the Shepard controlled reapers

Heh, maybe so. In control, it seems that organics are a bit more... subservient to synthetics. Whereas in synthesis they are in harmony, and in destroy, synthetic life is a casualty.

So... there might be something to the idea that Miranda and Orianna are trying to... address the problem, so to speak.

Modifié par flemm, 27 juin 2012 - 01:05 .

[enayasoul]

Yes, FINALLY! Miranda is in my Shepard thoughts as he shoots the beam. A beautiful picture of Miranda. I'll have to take a screen shot of that. Missed it the first time. Really liked the other picture of Miranda too. "Find Shepard" Miranda! The whole scene with the space brat was a lot better, good job explaining that part mass effect team. I can't believe I'm saying this but I enjoyed the ending. I cried but now there is hope where none was before. Mission accomplished.

[Jackster94]

@flemm yes although destroy and synthesis had it's cons control just seemed scary

[flemm]

Jackster94 wrote...

@flemm yes although destroy and synthesis had it's cons control just seemed scary

Well, also, I don't think Miranda would much like living in the shadow of machine gods, just as a general thing

Modifié par flemm, 27 juin 2012 - 01:02 .

[Dr. Doctor]

flemm wrote...

Jackster94 wrote...

@flemm yes although destroy and synthesis had it's cons control just seemed scary

Well, also, I don't think Miranda would much like living in the shadow of machine gods, just as a general thing

Shepard's going to be sleeping on the virtual couch once Miranda finds out what he's done.

Modifié par Dr. Doctor, 27 juin 2012 - 01:06 .

[flemm]

Dr. Doctor wrote...

Shepard's going to be sleeping on the virtual couch once Miranda finds out what he's done.

They're going to have a little "talk" when they next meet

About checking with one's LI before making important choices.

Such as... buying a car. Changing jobs.

Or determining the fate of galactic civilisation

Modifié par flemm, 27 juin 2012 - 01:09 .

[Jackster94]

@ lance with Shepard's creepy voice , ominous music and the majority of slides conveying reaper dominance I severely doubt that is her intentions

[flemm]

It's also interesting that control was TIM's solution.

I always thought Miranda would prefer destroy or synthesis. So, that feels right to me, i.e., if Shepard chooses control, Miranda isn't too pleased with the results.

Modifié par flemm, 27 juin 2012 - 01:14 .

[Jackster94]

In some synthesis and destroy endings Is there a chance she is dead? From what i have seen some variations in the endings make me think that Jacob and his girlfriend comforting a grieving oriana implies this?

[flemm]

Jackster94 wrote...

In some synthesis and destroy endings Is there a chance she is dead? From what i have seen some variations in the endings make me think that Jacob and his girlfriend comforting a grieving oriana implies this?

I haven't seen those slides. But Miranda can die, of course, during ME3, and she can appear in the "sacrifices were made" flashback. So... maybe there is a slide that reflects this also? I haven't seen anywhere near all the possible variations.

Modifié par flemm, 27 juin 2012 - 01:18 .

[enayasoul]

Well, the whole control thing might have to do with her father controlling when she was young.

Modifié par enayasoul, 27 juin 2012 - 01:26 .

[kookie28]

12 hours later and I'm still choking on emotions.

[flemm]

enayasoul wrote...

Well, the whole control thing might have to with her father controlling when she was young.

There's that also. It feels like this really should have been explored more during Miranda's mission. But... yeah. Miranda's distaste for control could be linked to that.

[Babi_Siha]

flemm wrote...

It's also interesting that control was TIM's solution.

I always thought Miranda would prefer destroy or synthesis. So, that feels right to me.

I don't think Miranda would agree to synthesis either. Shepard chosing to do whatever the hell he did to merge synthetics with organics is a very arbitrary decision, one that shouldn't be made by one person only, in a way I think she would relate to the control chip and how people should make their own decisions; synthesis is something no one asked for it, it was chosen for them.

Modifié par Babi_Siha, 27 juin 2012 - 01:21 .

[Jackster94]

@ enyaya not really I mean I can understand the notion but her specifically looking at reapers , ominous music , images of reaper dominace , and shepards creepy voice more or less clearly shows she is working against the reapers not thrown in there because her father issues

Polite

[Jackster94]

To be honest I think Miranda got a good ending . The glimpses of her future and flashbacks have created a lot of discussion and emotions

[Dr. Doctor]

Control really seems sinister to me, yes the Galaxy is saved but at what cost?

[flemm]

Babi_Siha wrote...

I don't think Miranda would agree to synthesis either. Shepard chosing to do whatever the hell he did to merge synthetics with organics is a very arbitrary decision, one that shouldn't be made by one person only, in a way I think she would relate to the control chip and her father and how people should make their own decisions; synthesis is something no one asked for it, it was chosen for them.

I see what you're saying.

My reasoning would be that she might choose destroy because (1) it allows for a final victory over the Reapers, (2) it might appeal to her cautious, pragmatic side (less risky/uncertain than synthesis) and (3) the main downside is the loss of synthetic life, which Miranda might not be too upset about.

For synthesis: it would appeal to the scientist/explorer in her, the part of her that would be excited by all the possibilities offered by this "ascension." If you can embrace that type of change, the synthesis choice really has the least downside of all: both forms of life survive, and neither synthetic nor organic life dominates the other.

Modifié par flemm, 27 juin 2012 - 01:32 .

[ripslip]

I come bearing a low-quality, watermarked gif

[Jackster94]

@flemm also people forget that she also may still agree with Cerberus' goal of human advancement still to some extent , but not their methods. So I can see how she would be for synthesis

[flemm]

Jackster94 wrote...

@flemm also people forget that she also may still agree with Cerberus' goal of human advancement still to some extent , but not their methods. So I can see how she would be for synthesis

Agreed. That might be another way of looking at it.

And destroy maybe for a similar reason, in that it's like starting over from scratch. But free of the cycle.

That could be partly what the destroy slide is showing.

Modifié par flemm, 27 juin 2012 - 01:40 .