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"I'll always want you in my life." Miranda Lawson in Mass Effect 3


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#55726
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Anybody else imagining Miranda as the head of some kind of Alliance Special Research Division after looking at that slide? Fine by me.

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jtav wrote...

Anybody else imagining Miranda as the head of some kind of Alliance Special Research Division after looking at that slide? Fine by me.


In Synthesis? Definitely. I'm fine too, at least for the first years after the war. The STG project could wait.

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When BioWare was coming up with the Mass Effect Trilogy almost a Decade ago, were they intending to create a Series, with a plot that would result in peace between Organics and Synthetics? Was that what Mass Effect was all about in the Beginning? They probably knew that there would be others who would object to Synthesis. Was that why they created Destroy and Control? Were they intending to create just one Ending? What is with some people creating a plot where in the End, peace is made between Organics and Synthetics? BioWare went further, by actually fusing both together.Was Mass Effect all about a turning point? A step in Evolution? Then what was the point of the Reapers being Evil if wanting harmony?

I still choose Destroy, because I just want to see Reapers as Evil and Merciless. I like seeing "Good vs Evil," not "Harmony in the Last Minute" between Good and Evil. The Characters didn't come all this way just to have Synthesis happening. Synthesis could not have been the Fate of the Galaxy since the Beginning.

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It sounded like they had a few ideas kicking around, based on a few themes and elements that were foreshadowed.

Though it did all seem to lead to a final decision between trusting the Reapers' goals/wisdom or rejecting them outright, which I think they tried to preserve with the current endings before adding in 'the third option'.

Modifié par hot_heart, 27 juin 2012 - 10:28 .


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Drew definitely hasn't intended any technological singularity plot.
The reasoning in the ME3 ending came out of nowhere. There never was a real threat to rogue AIs rebelling against their creators. The only threat (Geth) was created by the "preservers of the galaxy" themselves...

I am still for dark energy...

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Mr Massakka wrote...
Drew definitely hasn't intended any technological singularity plot.
The reasoning in the ME3 ending came out of nowhere. There never was a real threat to rogue AIs rebelling against their creators. The only threat (Geth) was created by the "preservers of the galaxy" themselves...

I am still for dark energy...

I'd be inclined to agree, but I think a lot of sites only used part of what he said. He said that dark energy had been one of the ideas. Though, a better established one at that.

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mmm....

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The aliens guy meme generator can be fun.

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Mr Massakka wrote...

Drew definitely hasn't intended any technological singularity plot.
The reasoning in the ME3 ending came out of nowhere. There never was a real threat to rogue AIs rebelling against their creators. The only threat (Geth) was created by the "preservers of the galaxy" themselves...

I am still for dark energy...


It does not help that most people are fans of the Geth and most people picked to save both the Geth and Quarians from destruction (which proves that organics & machines can co-exist)

I do think the dark energy idea was much better than the 'terminator' style plot line pretty much.

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TomY90 wrote...

Mr Massakka wrote...

Drew definitely hasn't intended any technological singularity plot.
The reasoning in the ME3 ending came out of nowhere. There never was a real threat to rogue AIs rebelling against their creators. The only threat (Geth) was created by the "preservers of the galaxy" themselves...

I am still for dark energy...


It does not help that most people are fans of the Geth and most people picked to save both the Geth and Quarians from destruction (which proves that organics & machines can co-exist)

I do think the dark energy idea was much better than the 'terminator' style plot line pretty much.

... not to mention that ME2 was more or less senseless without dark energy ...

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ME2 would've been pretty senseless even with dark energy given the entire premise was "recruit a team of badasses to help combat the looming threat" and by ME3 all said badasses are either dead or have somewhere else they'd rather be.

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Did Mac Walters create the character of Miranda?

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Part of her, Weekes also wrote part of Miranda. Then in ME3 she was delegated to a junior (and first time) writer in ME3.

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CrutchCricket wrote...

ME2 would've been pretty senseless even with dark energy given the entire premise was "recruit a team of badasses to help combat the looming threat" and by ME3 all said badasses are either dead or have somewhere else they'd rather be.

I don't think so.
That squad was a group of random recruits to quickly stop a threat no one knows or cares about. That's why the plot evolved around that and why they dropped them for ME3.

My main point however is, that the interest in Humans is not justified. They attack the Humans in some kind of rushed and senseless attempt to build a Human Reaper.

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Mr Massakka wrote...
My main point however is, that the interest in Humans is not justified. They attack the Humans in some kind of rushed and senseless attempt to build a Human Reaper.


Their ideology behind it is that Reapers believe that humans are the most genetically malleable and diverse, and would create a dominant Reaper.

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The dark energy plot gives a reason to build a reaper fast,. syntethics/organics plot don't.

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Let me ask all of you something.: Did Miri Appear in YOUR Flashbacks? If not, why? What do you have to do in order to have Miri in your Flashback? Don you have to avoid talking to all of the Characters on the Normandy in order to see her?:unsure:

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Skullheart wrote...

Part of her, Weekes also wrote part of Miranda. Then in ME3 she was delegated to a junior (and first time) writer in ME3.


That explains how pathetic her story arc was in 3....

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dtrain24 wrote...

Mr Massakka wrote...
My main point however is, that the interest in Humans is not justified. They attack the Humans in some kind of rushed and senseless attempt to build a Human Reaper.


Their ideology behind it is that Reapers believe that humans are the most genetically malleable and diverse, and would create a dominant Reaper.

That doesn't explain why the Reapers decide to send the Collectors in a rushed attempt.
Why not attack as usual? They are already very dominant and have every time they need after they are done with their cycle.

With Dark Energy it would have really made sense for them to act like that, however.

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MASSEFFECTfanforlife101 wrote...

Let me ask all of you something.: Did Miri Appear in YOUR Flashbacks? If not, why? What do you have to do in order to have Miri in your Flashback? Don you have to avoid talking to all of the Characters on the Normandy in order to see her?:unsure:


If she's your romance, then she always appears.

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Mr Massakka wrote...

dtrain24 wrote...

Mr Massakka wrote...
My main point however is, that the interest in Humans is not justified. They attack the Humans in some kind of rushed and senseless attempt to build a Human Reaper.


Their ideology behind it is that Reapers believe that humans are the most genetically malleable and diverse, and would create a dominant Reaper.

That doesn't explain why the Reapers decide to send the Collectors in a rushed attempt.
Why not attack as usual? They are already very dominant and have every time they need after they are done with their cycle.

With Dark Energy it would have really made sense for them to act like that, however.


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flemm wrote...

I'm a fan of the non-romance destroy slide also. Speaking purely of the image alone, i think it might even be my favorite.

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I got this slide when I picked Destroy, romancing her. I got again in Synthesis but her face/eyes were green. I also got the stars one too. It was usually the first or second slide shown. As for ANTI-ME2 characters I hope they have something planned for them later down the road. But doubtul considering how popular ME characters are.

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dtrain24 wrote...

MASSEFFECTfanforlife101 wrote...

Let me ask all of you something.: Did Miri Appear in YOUR Flashbacks? If not, why? What do you have to do in order to have Miri in your Flashback? Don you have to avoid talking to all of the Characters on the Normandy in order to see her?:unsure:


If she's your romance, then she always appears.


What about all those videos with Liara in it? Those Uploaders couldn't possibly be all Liaramancers.

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 After playing through Cronos umpteen times, did anyone else get the feeling that EDI's personality and mannerisims during the mission were very similar to Miranda's?

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Little aside: I love how Miranda's accent makes 'Saren' sound like she got the vowels mixed up.

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Yeah I always thought EDI poached Miranda's lines/role on Cronos. It is something I've complained about since day one.