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"I'll always want you in my life." Miranda Lawson in Mass Effect 3


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Woo! Finally got chapter eleven done. Hard to avoid 'going full Mordin' when writing a salarian, I think.

Fingers crossed it should be smooth sailing from now on... (jinxed it!)

Would be great to get some feedback from you guys.

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Dr. Doctor wrote...
Sorry, about that. 

Reaper tech is probably advanced enough to create another Shepard without issue, but I'd imagine that he'd sort of be like Starkiller in The Force Unleashed 2 where he has all of the memories of the original but doesn't know what they mean or what to do with them.

The question I have is would Shepard reveal that he's the new guiding intelligence of the Reapers or would he maintain the "implied but unseen" doctrine of the old Catylyst? Creating a Shepard replica that can't remember what happened on the Citadel would make a good cover story.

Oh wow.  That's actually really interesting. Moreso than my scenario even.

I... kind of want to use this. Is that OK?

Otherwise I was basing my imperfect replica model on the fact that Shepard got disintegrated and I don't think there was enough time to scan his DNA. But I suppose if Commander's in control of the Citadel it can get that from its biometric scanners anyway.

Also I'd want to say it wouldn't reveal itself but I think it has to, given some of the epilogue slides- particularly Reapers just hanging out in London, rebuilding. But it wouldn't need to tell people it's Shepard.

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CrutchCricket wrote...
*headdesk*

That's (part of) what I've been asking!



Wait... what?

Did you want comments on that or something? Well, speak up! Posted Image

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flemm wrote...
Wait... what?

Did you want comments on that or something? Well, speak up! Posted Image


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After I read your idea, I was like...

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...damn.

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Reminded me of that bogus ME3 post-ending DLC rumour with the Shepard that had a rogue AI or something in his head? Either way, that was totally crazy.

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Well I wanted to know how Miranda would react in that situation. But the more I think about it, the harder it is to imagine a favorable reaction.

On the other hand I like Doc's idea. So maybe both Miranda and Shepard are brought back. Miranda's return would be more like Lazarus so she'd retain full memory and continuity. But Shepard would be... confused, to say the least.

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CrutchCricket wrote...

Well I wanted to know how Miranda would react in that situation. But the more I think about it, the harder it is to imagine a favorable reaction.



To me it's sort of like trying to imagine what Miranda would do with the end choice (I think she would consider either destroy or synthesis, but not really be attracted by control).

Joining with Shepard or returning to rebuild seem like the choices that would attract her in your scenario. I don't think living with a simalcrum of Shepard really would.

At that point I guess your idea could merge a bit with jtav's, where she returns to rebuild and then joins with Shepard towards the end of her life.

Modifié par flemm, 29 juin 2012 - 12:00 .


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And my idea is turning into Death Takes A Holiday ME style. I'm not sure if that's good or bad.

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LanceSolous13 wrote...

A question because I'm wirting an ending reunion fic (Mass Effect: Aftermath) and I, of course, have Miri as the LI for the plot.

Trying to start this writing process off and calculating how it all fits together but the Catalyst was vague at what constitutes as Snythetic. He said Shepard was part Synthetic (I assume his implants) so what does this mean for the rest of the Galexy? Espicially if Shepard lives? And, for the life of me, Can't find anything from ME2 or 3 about what his Implants were for. Were they vital for his survival and thus putting him in a really bad condition if fried? Or are they just simply to make him stronger for battle and nothing more? Ugh. I suppose I have more to work from with the EC but not enough.


*slides this back into thread* *whistles innocently* lol

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There should be a Mass Effect Holiday Special staring Miri. Lol:P

Modifié par MASSEFFECTfanforlife101, 29 juin 2012 - 12:10 .


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LanceSolous13 wrote...

LanceSolous13 wrote...

A question because I'm wirting an ending reunion fic (Mass Effect: Aftermath) and I, of course, have Miri as the LI for the plot.

Trying to start this writing process off and calculating how it all fits together but the Catalyst was vague at what constitutes as Snythetic. He said Shepard was part Synthetic (I assume his implants) so what does this mean for the rest of the Galexy? Espicially if Shepard lives? And, for the life of me, Can't find anything from ME2 or 3 about what his Implants were for. Were they vital for his survival and thus putting him in a really bad condition if fried? Or are they just simply to make him stronger for battle and nothing more? Ugh. I suppose I have more to work from with the EC but not enough.


*slides this back into thread* *whistles innocently* lol


So, do you mean: are his implants damaged in destroy?

My initial thought would be to say: probably not, since there's no reason to believe that all technology is damaged, only the relays and synthetic beings. But... that's just a spur-of-the-moment reaction.

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MASSEFFECTfanforlife101 wrote...

There should be a Mass Effect Holiday Special staring Miri. Lol:P


There should be more Miranda in ME3

bw, why can't you give us a Miranda Retake Cerberus DLC?

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Miranda Retake Cerberus DLC would be great

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Official promotional poster...

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...in my dreams.

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LanceSolous13 wrote...

A question because I'm wirting an ending reunion fic (Mass Effect: Aftermath) and I, of course, have Miri as the LI for the plot.

Trying to start this writing process off and calculating how it all fits together but the Catalyst was vague at what constitutes as Snythetic. He said Shepard was part Synthetic (I assume his implants) so what does this mean for the rest of the Galexy? Espicially if Shepard lives? And, for the life of me, Can't find anything from ME2 or 3 about what his Implants were for. Were they vital for his survival and thus putting him in a really bad condition if fried? Or are they just simply to make him stronger for battle and nothing more? Ugh. I suppose I have more to work from with the EC but not enough.


Great minds think alike.  I woke up with this fascinating idea dealing with Miranda and Shepard after destroy ending where he lives.  A reunion of sorts.  It just wouldn't let me go until I wrote it all out.  Nearly 11 pages worth in word. Many different scene ideas and not just focusing on Miranda and Shep. Everybody. 

I have to admit I am just as confused as you are about what is exactly synthetic in Shepard's body.  I've looked myself on the internet all afternoon.  The only thing that everyone seems consistent on is his eyes.  Other thoughts would be yes, he was made to be stronger in battle.  Shepard headbutted a krogan... Smashed Ballerina Kai Leng's sword with Shepards fist.  What is the skin weave made out of is it synthetic?  I know it has med-gel fibers in or something does that releases it into his body to heal him.  I'll have to explore the lore and ME2 upgrades a bit more in-depth myself.  

We do see in the lazarus opening screen in ME2 that he has alot of white dots all over his skelaton.  I think it's there to hold his bones and body structure together? Could the implants keep his system regulated?  Or maybe a kick start if his life signs start falling?  Shepard has an incredible will to survive.  To get up and keep going!

Thoughts anyone?  =]

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enayasoul wrote...


Great minds think alike.  I woke up with this fascinating idea dealing with Miranda and Shepard after destroy ending where he lives.  A reunion of sorts.  It just wouldn't let me go until I wrote it all out.  Nearly 11 pages worth in word. Many different scene ideas and not just focusing on Miranda and Shep. Everybody. 

I have to admit I am just as confused as you are about what is exactly synthetic in Shepard's body.  I've looked myself on the internet all afternoon.  The only thing that everyone seems consistent on is his eyes.  Other thoughts would be yes, he was made to be stronger in battle.  Shepard headbutted a krogan... Smashed Ballerina Kai Leng's sword with Shepards fist.  What is the skin weave made out of is it synthetic?  I know it has med-gel fibers in or something does that releases it into his body to heal him.  I'll have to explore the lore and ME2 upgrades a bit more in-depth myself.  

We do see in the lazarus opening screen in ME2 that he has alot of white dots all over his skelaton.  I think it's there to hold his bones and body structure together? Could the implants keep his system regulated?  Or maybe a kick start if his life signs start falling?  Shepard has an incredible will to survive.  To get up and keep going!

Thoughts anyone?  =]

Well the eyes are definitely synthetic to a rather profound degree, and there appears to be something like a defibrillator that revives him in the event his heart stops.  Other than that...his bones were held together with synthetics but I'm not sure those are necessary anymore.  Chances are good that Shepard would be partially, if not entirely blind after the pulse but those eye implants can likely be repaired without difficulty.

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enayasoul wrote...

Great minds think alike.  I woke up with this fascinating idea dealing with Miranda and Shepard after destroy ending where he lives.  A reunion of sorts.  It just wouldn't let me go until I wrote it all out.  Nearly 11 pages worth in word. Many different scene ideas and not just focusing on Miranda and Shep. Everybody. 

I have to admit I am just as confused as you are about what is exactly synthetic in Shepard's body.  I've looked myself on the internet all afternoon.  The only thing that everyone seems consistent on is his eyes.  Other thoughts would be yes, he was made to be stronger in battle.  Shepard headbutted a krogan... Smashed Ballerina Kai Leng's sword with Shepards fist.  What is the skin weave made out of is it synthetic?  I know it has med-gel fibers in or something does that releases it into his body to heal him.  I'll have to explore the lore and ME2 upgrades a bit more in-depth myself.  

We do see in the lazarus opening screen in ME2 that he has alot of white dots all over his skelaton.  I think it's there to hold his bones and body structure together? Could the implants keep his system regulated?  Or maybe a kick start if his life signs start falling?  Shepard has an incredible will to survive.  To get up and keep going!

Thoughts anyone?  =]


First off- yeah write the fic. That sounds really cool. I'm going to have to head-canon a new reunion myself in Destroy. I don't know if you remember but mine involved Miranda finding Shepard under the rubble. But based on the star-gazing picture of her, Shepard wouldn't hold out long enough under the rubble for Miranda to find him there. So I'll need to start from scratch on my reunion. Posted Image

As for Shepard's synthetics...in Lazurus, you see Miranda implanting some machinery into Shepard's body.
Bioware wouldn't be able to make the assumption that Shepard used the modifications like Skin Weave, Muscle Weave, etc.  So the Starbrats dialogue would be wrong if that's what he was referencing. He had to be talking about the implants and tech in Shepard's body for sure.
But assuming Shepard did the upgrades. I'm sure a lot of it is synthetic, the tech wouldn't work otherwise. It's safe to say his upgrades are synthetically created in some way.
Either way, Shepard is an organic put together with the help of synthetics...but apparently not enough to kill him in Destroy.

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I would assume someone finds him (preferably Miri, but not necessarily. If it were Miri it would be a lovely, heart-wrenching scene naturally) and she keeps him on ice until they can use the remains of the reapers to create the tech needed to restore him. Say, another couple of years or so?

And that slide of her looking up at the stars is in between her finding shep and her restoring him again perhaps...

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I get the impression that his synthetic bits are mostly fine in the EC. He's in bad shape, but it's more to do with the giant laser hitting him. His fighting days are likely over, but he'll be able to live a fairly full life, though there will probably be assistive tech involved.

Hm. Wonder how Miranda would deal with a Shep who was disabled in the war?

#56047
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I think Miranda would still love him regardless.

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enayasoul wrote...

I think Miranda would still love him regardless.


She would develop restorative tech of some kind to give him back full functionality. She is a damn genius, remember.

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She'd find a way to fix him.

If not that they'd just get old together.

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Still love him? Of course. Poor health is just one of my narrative obsessions, and I'm wondering how she'd cope with the strssors?