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[LanceSolous13]

MASSEFFECTfanforlife101 wrote...

LanceSolous13 wrote...

MASSEFFECTfanforlife101 wrote...

That definitely would have been a good "New" outfit for Miri if BioWare had decided to give EVERY Character a different Outfit in ME3.<_<

I actually wouldn't have minded something loose for once, as a visual representation of character development? Like, maybe something with the torso and look of her old suit, but as a dress or something? idk

Or something involving a Jacket.

...Borrowing the Commander's Jacket/Sweatshirt?

[monrapias]

Skullheart wrote...

monrapias wrote...

Skullheart wrote...

monrapias wrote...

Miranda grew out of a lab right? From her fathers tissues? so she's a man? I'm confused.

not this again....

I'm just asking a question.

And no one seems to be able to answer it.

I shaged miranda in one of my playthroughs, and I do look at miranda as a female, but my question is, is she really a man, seeing as she grew from her fathers tissues.

simple question.   Just because someone gives you a question towards something you like doesn't make them "trollers" or whatever you kids call it.

A few days ago peple start to troll with this, even when we already explained how wrong they were (ignore the facts, it's more fun to just be a troll).

Miranda was created with tissue from her father, however his XY chromosome was altereted. the Y was swapped with a new X (an amalgam of  desired sources). She is a female in body, mind and genetics.

Thanx, glad someone botherd to explain it, rather than just go " TROLL IN THE DUNGEON!" or something like that.

[Skullheart]

Miranda looks much better than edi in that outfit...


Miranda: Sorry EDI, you don't have what is required to wear a jumpsuit.

[MASSEFFECTfanforlife101]

^ 

Modifié par MASSEFFECTfanforlife101, 29 juin 2012 - 07:01 .

[MisterJB]

RamilVenoard wrote...
Do you think Miri would try to move on and maybe fall in love again with someone new? If so, would she try to find someone as similar as possible to Shep? If she did and Control Shep dropped in, what would your Shep's reaction be?

I would say this is why you don't give godlike powers to a mortal but obliterating entire cities for the sins of a few fits God's MO.

[Ieldra]

RamilVenoard wrote...

MisterJB wrote...

jtav wrote...

Can the writer get the opinion of the group? Would Miranda borrowing from a romantically involved Shepard's DNA to create a child decades after Synthesis or Control seem creepy to you?

Not at all. But I don't imagine this is a surprising stance.

BTW, after trying it with my Renegade, I noticed Synthesis cures the genophage regardless of Shepard's decisions.
In light of this, do you think Synthesis also cured Miranda's fertility?

Yes. Most definitely it did. That was my first thought in the Synthesis ending. I'm heavily leaning paragon, so I cured the genophage anyway, but I suspect that genetic maladies of all shapes and sizes are now cured.  Remember, Synthesis is the pinnacle of evolution. We are now in a state by which the galaxy's races no longer need to advance physically or technologically, since one can argue that even in modern society, we no longer physically evolve.

@jtav:
No, I wouldn't find that creepy at all.

@RamiVenoard:
Recall that EDI says that the shattered cultures will *eventually* recover. I don't think Synthesis cures the genophage, but provides the means to get there eventually. In my Synthesis thread, I speculated that Synthesis may provide the tools for self-improvement, not the improvement itself. The EC exposition says "Organics will be perfected by integrating with synthetic technology". There are all kinds of synthetic technology, it's not really plausible that everyone will suddenly have everything. So I gather that the changed "matrix" will *enable* organics to integrate with technology. With regard to Miranda, that would mean that her infertility can be cured regardless of its cause. The question is: does she know that? Anway, I assume that the natural method of reproduction will only be one of many possible ways in the post-Synthesis galaxy.

Also, Synthesis does not set an end to advancement. Listen to the epilogue again: "As the line between synthetic and organic disappears, we may transcend mortality itself......to reach a level of existence I cannot even imagine." and "No matter how far we advance, we will remember the sacrifices of those who made it possible"

[Ieldra]

Dr. Doctor wrote...

MisterJB wrote...

jtav wrote...
Can the writer get the opinion of the group? Would Miranda borrowing from a romantically involved Shepard's DNA to create a child decades after Synthesis or Control seem creepy to you?

Not at all. But I don't imagine this is a surprising stance.

BTW, after trying it with my Renegade, I noticed Synthesis cures the genophage regardless of Shepard's decisions.
In light of this, do you think Synthesis also cured Miranda's fertility?

I'd say yes. 

On a similar note is Synthesis!Shepard actually gone? His energy (I'm calling it a soul  "the essence of who and what you are" sounds pretty much like a soul to me)  becomes a part of the framework of  all synthetic and organic life in the galaxy. Who's to say that Miranda couldn't figure out a way to give him a body again?

Given that Keiji appears to come back to life from his greybox, I think Shepard coming back is a headcanon that's not all that outlandish. Though getting back the dispersed Shepard mind would be a "significant hurdle" (TIM about controlling Reapers at Sanctuary). Both jtav and I have fanfiction where that happened.

[Ieldra]

LanceSolous13 wrote...

Obvakhi wrote...
Not ONE comment about Dat Ass?
Miranda would be disappointed in all of you...

I actually, hoenstly, didn't notice all the ass shots till ME3, when they're being forced down your throat.

Almost like Bioware going "Sorry. I'm so sorry. We didn't do much with Miranda's Romance. Sorry. HERE! HAVE SOME ASS SHOTS TO MAKE UP FOR IT!"

I saw it as a humorous reference to the much more in-your-face version of ME2. Sort of "Miranda's ass shots were infamous in ME2. It's part of her on-screen identity. We must include at least one of those in ME3". As usual in those cases, they went overboard with it.

[hot_heart]

fiendishchicken wrote...
I got to say, you really like using snippets from Yvonne. First Yvonne Stryker (Jimmy Kimmel interview: one of my faves because it shows how wickedly funny Yvonne is.) and Freya (Some Australian soap that only a Strahovski fan would know.) I like.

Hehe. Thanks, and well done for noticing. I like to include little 'easter eggs' here and there. A 'Miss Walker' may appear at one point, undecided if that's a bit too much. I think I have watched an unhealthy amount of Yvonne-related videos (and that Australian soap thing totally messed with my head!)

I actually named the salarian based on what the writers in ME3 did. Padok Wiks = Patrick Weekes, Jondom Bau = John Dombrow...and so Ryn = Ryan McPartlin aka. Captain Awesome.

...and see if you can guess the asari Spectre to whom he was referring.

[Ieldra]

jtav wrote...
I have this vague idea of Catalyst!Shepard losing most of his human emotion but deciding to check in on Miranda (and child?) a few decades down the road. Incognito. Miranda is preparing for the day the Reapers go bad. Even benevolent tyranny is unacceptable. She and the Catalyst! Shepard fight a lot, but he draws on more and more of his old life until he really is just Matt with more wisdom and power. He gives her access to the knowledge of the Reapers so that organics can contend with them and promises to return to take her with him someday.

I'm doubtful about that course of action. It seems unwise on Matt's part. This would be the first step to being usurped as the guardian of the galaxy. The whole premise of Control is that organic civilization is not mature enough to develop on its own terms without destroying itself. Giving organic civilization the knowledge of the Reapers is possible once organic civilization has grown up somewhat, but that won't happen in Miranda's lifetime. Giving away *some* knowledge as a first step, that's more plausible, but definitely not enough to contend with the Reapers for now.

Modifié par Ieldra2, 29 juin 2012 - 08:30 .

[hot_heart]

Oh, and this is amazing!

Skullheart wrote...
Editing some models from xnalara...
*snip*

[ChrisRudson]

monrapias wrote...

Skullheart wrote...

monrapias wrote...

Miranda grew out of a lab right? From her fathers tissues? so she's a man? I'm confused.

not this again....

I'm just asking a question.

And no one seems to be able to answer it.

I shaged miranda in one of my playthroughs, and I do look at miranda as a female, but my question is, is she really a man, seeing as she grew from her fathers tissues.

simple question.   Just because someone gives you a question towards something you like doesn't make them "trollers" or whatever you kids call it.

Her genes have been genetically altered for her to be a female. So she's directly as female as any female in this universe

[Aliqaiser]

One question which bothers me..... Oriana is Miranda's genetic twin right? So how can she conceive pregnancy, While Miranda couldn't?

This was a question revolving up my mind for quite some time.

Modifié par Aliqaiser, 29 juin 2012 - 11:42 .

[Stalker]

monrapias wrote...

Skullheart wrote...

monrapias wrote...

Miranda grew out of a lab right? From her fathers tissues? so she's a man? I'm confused.

not this again....

I'm just asking a question.

And no one seems to be able to answer it.

I shaged miranda in one of my playthroughs, and I do look at miranda as a female, but my question is, is she really a man, seeing as she grew from her fathers tissues.

simple question.   Just because someone gives you a question towards something you like doesn't make them "trollers" or whatever you kids call it.

To make it short: She has two X chromosomes, clearly identifying her as a woman. 
She has one natural X and one cloned, modified one.

[hot_heart]

Aliqaiser wrote...
One question which bothers me..... Oriana is Miranda's genetic twin right? So how can she conceive pregnancy, While Miranda couldn't?

This was a question revolving up my mind for quite some time.

I think there are a few ideas kicking around. Someone suggested it was perhaps designed into Miranda (for some reason...)

Another interpretation might be that, the 'damage' (can't remember the exact description) is a gradual process and easily reversible if caught early enough?

[ThomGau]

Aliqaiser wrote...

One question which bothers me..... Oriana is Miranda's genetic twin right? So how can she conceive pregnancy, While Miranda couldn't?

This was a question revolving up my mind for quite some time.

If only we knew for sure... but the game just wouldn't tell us It might be caused by eezo exposure when she developped her biotic abilities. We know it could be cancerous and could grow neoplasm, fortunately benign in Miranda's case.
Oriana obvisouly isn't a biotic, it's probably Henry who forced it on Miranda when she was younger.

I've been thinking about the epilogues slides and I came up with an hypothesis I'd like to share.
We know she is probably planning the reconstruction of Earth with the Alliance. Do you think she could also help fix the damaged mass relays and the Citadel? I think it would be pretty cool.

Modifié par ThomGau, 29 juin 2012 - 01:00 .

[Aliqaiser]

Skullheart wrote...

Miranda looks much better than edi in that outfit...


Miranda: Sorry EDI, you don't have what is required to wear a jumpsuit.

Really like the color combination in the suit.

Modifié par Aliqaiser, 29 juin 2012 - 01:24 .

[Aliqaiser]

hot_heart wrote...

Aliqaiser wrote...
One question which bothers me..... Oriana is Miranda's genetic twin right? So how can she conceive pregnancy, While Miranda couldn't?

This was a question revolving up my mind for quite some time.

I think there are a few ideas kicking around. Someone suggested it was perhaps designed into Miranda (for some reason...)

Another interpretation might be that, the 'damage' (can't remember the exact description) is a gradual process and easily reversible if caught early enough?

Hope its reversible... If it was meant to be designed for Miranda would only bring up more question's, based on what reason it was designed for her.

[Aliqaiser]

ThomGau wrote...

Aliqaiser wrote...

One question which bothers me..... Oriana is Miranda's genetic twin right? So how can she conceive pregnancy, While Miranda couldn't?

This was a question revolving up my mind for quite some time.

If only we knew for sure... but the game just wouldn't tell us It might be caused by eezo exposure when she developped her biotic abilities. We know it could be cancerous and could grow neoplasm, fortunately benign in Miranda's case.
Oriana obvisouly isn't a biotic, it's probably Henry who forced it on Miranda when she was younger.

I've been thinking about the epilogues slides and I came up with an hypothesis I'd like to share.
We know she is probably planning the reconstruction of Earth with the Alliance. Do you think she could also help fix the damaged mass relays and the Citadel? I think it would be pretty cool.

I see, kinda makes sence, since in the codex section it was mentioned that biotics in humans  ( actually coalesces into the noudules within the fetus developing nerveous system)- lame they could'nt explain it in-game for Miranda's case.

If Miranda was Cerberus second-in command, it would have been for a soild reason, the Illusive man choose it for her.
However by far we know due to her intelligence, I think she would be a valuable asset in the reconstruction of the mass relays and the Citadel.

Modifié par Aliqaiser, 29 juin 2012 - 01:38 .

[Ieldra]

ThomGau wrote...

Aliqaiser wrote...
One question which bothers me..... Oriana is Miranda's genetic twin right? So how can she conceive pregnancy, While Miranda couldn't?

This was a question revolving up my mind for quite some time.

If only we knew for sure... but the game just wouldn't tell us It might be caused by eezo exposure when she developped her biotic abilities. We know it could be cancerous and could grow neoplasm, fortunately benign in Miranda's case.
Oriana obvisouly isn't a biotic, it's probably Henry who forced it on Miranda when she was younger.

I've been thinking about the epilogues slides and I came up with an hypothesis I'd like to share.
We know she is probably planning the reconstruction of Earth with the Alliance. Do you think she could also help fix the damaged mass relays and the Citadel? I think it would be pretty cool.

I think it's ok that there isn't a canonical solution to Miranda's infertility. That way we can always tell our own stories about it. My version is that it's a side effect of the implanted eezo nodules in her body. It's too crude and unreliable to be a designed solution.

MIranca could help fix the relays, yes. It may not be the most efficient use of her talents though. In my headcanon she's found one component for a new long-range FTL drive. A biological one. Post-Synthesis of course. 

[fiendishchicken]

LanceSolous13 wrote...

Want to know what would have been an interesting mission idea?

Ori contacting Shepard to help her save Miri! A nice switch of things and she can prove to Miri that she can handel herself.

Well in the fanfic I have been writing, I have a couple of  arcs involving Shepard and Miranda or both in danger. They're kinda like Chuck episodes, or at least, that's how I'm trying to write them. And coincidentally for the plot where Miri is in danger, Oriana is the one who blows the whistle to Shepard. I'm trying to bring in an arc with Corporal Toombs who was on Akuze with Shepard, and how he plans on enacting vengeance on Shepard and Cerberus. It's presumably going to be a turning point in the Shep/Miri relationship as it details just what exactly Shepard and Toombs went through on Akuze, and the torture Toombs went through by Cerberus. Miranda may have had something to do with the mission as well, and Shepard finding out about it would be, well, a sour note on his relationship with both Miranda and Cerberus, so there's that element I'm hoping to put in.

[jtav]

Regarding Miranda moving on, Matt and Alex would be screaming at her to do it. Live. Love. Nothing is gained by mourning for the rest of her life. There are lots of great people in the galaxy. Her love for him might be the deepest, but not first or last.

[flemm]

Skullheart wrote...

Miranda looks much better than edi in that outfit...

*snip*

Wow, that does look really good. Some things simply cannot be improved upon. Miranda's physique apparently being one of those things.

[RamilVenoard]

flemm wrote...

Skullheart wrote...

Miranda looks much better than edi in that outfit...

*snip*

Wow, that does look really good. Some things simply cannot be improved upon. Miranda's physique apparently being one of those things.

This is a long established fact since the first thing that most of us Mirimancers were drawn to was undoubtedly the fact that she is modeled upon an incredibly gorgeous woman.  Then, ofc, we discovered there's much more to her character than that.

[cbutz]

Hmm while EDIs body has similarities...it is not exactly the same type as Mirandas. I believ her body type is more slender than EDIS