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[flemm]

kookie28 wrote...
It's awesome that the thread has been moving fast lately.
But now I can't keep up. Holy hell.

I'll try to summarize:


There is not enough Miranda in ME3/We have basically been pissed about the same things for eight straight months and it doesn't look like that's changing anytime soon/We still think Miranda is awesome in spite of everything/Dr. Doctor is a gifted and humorous individual/CrutchCricket has some mind-blowing ideas for fanfic/Yvonne Strahovski is at a pivotal moment in her career/Cereal/Ballerinas/Luis/We like the epilogue slides and the flashback/*Lingering bitterness and resentment over ME2 LI treatment*/Skullheart pessimism meter ranging from extremely pessimistic to explosively pessimistic/Confusion about Miranda's genetic origins/WTF is up with Miranda not being on Cronos station?!?!?!?!?!/EDI has Miranda's outfit, Ashley has her look, Liara has her office, everybody has her squad buff and defense stripping/What a f*cking joke!/Miranda appeals to people with brains, they didn't expect that/Damn she looks good in that flashback/Ass shot/Epilogue slides are more enjoyable to ponder than the core game content, you have got to be kidding me/ThePinkFoxx finished her cosplay/Time for some DLC.


Something like that 

Modifié par flemm, 29 juin 2012 - 09:02 .

[jtav]

Does this dialogue seem Catalyst-y enough to you?


The man who came before me was many things. He was an artist who sought to chronicle the galaxy through paint and pencil. He was a deadly soldier with command over matter itself. He was a lover who longed for nothing more than to spend the rest of his days with the woman he saw as perfection. He was a diplomat who sought to heal the wounds of the past and set free all life.

Then he saw how organics squandered that freedom. He saw salarians who were so ruled by fear that they would rather hide than cooperate with their old enemy against a greater threat. He saw quarians consumed by a thirst for vengeance that lead to their destruction. He saw the asari hoard knowledge that could have saved billions of lives. And he became enraged. Through that rage I was created. I do what he could not. I compel the many to make peace. I save them from their mistakes. I heal the wounds they inflicted.

I watch his beloved. His memories echo within me. I do not love her, but I remember the feel of her hand in his, her slight smile. His last thoughts were of protecting her. And so I do. I watch as she rebuilds something new from the ashes of the organization she served. I let her bring light to dark places and see her love her sister. There is purpose in my observation. He loved her for her brilliance, but if that brilliance burns too brightly, she could unleash chaos in the galaxy. My Reapers serve organics, but organics must never be allowed to surpass them for the good of the many. I watch so that she does not make a mockery of his sacrifice.

The message appears without warning, tucked away in the society column of a human newspaper. Miranda Lawson has given birth to a son. Though "birth" is perhaps the wrong word. The child was created as she was. But this time, there is only one other source of DNA: the man I used to be. Echoes of love and grief he flitter across my mind. This was another dream he sacrificed in my creation, the family he lost in adolescence that he hoped to create with her. The regret fills and consumes me, stronger than it ever has. And perhaps I am curious to see this child of his. We are both his progeny in our own way. I am infinite; the child is bound by time. I remember, but he can love.

It is decided. The species we harvested had within them the knowledge to create shells of flesh and blood. A piece of my mind will assume his mortal form for a time. I will see this child of his, this brother of mine. I will come face-to-face with his beloved.

And through it all, I will watch.

[MASSEFFECTfanforlife101]

BioWare is never going to give us what we want. It is always given to Team Dextro, Liara, Ashley, and Kaidan.

Modifié par MASSEFFECTfanforlife101, 29 juin 2012 - 09:04 .

[kookie28]

flemm wrote...

kookie28 wrote...
It's awesome that the thread has been moving fast lately.
But now I can't keep up. Holy hell.

I'll try to summarize:


There is not enough Miranda in ME3/We have basically been pissed about the same things for eight straight months and it doesn't look like that's changing anytime soon/We still think Miranda is awesome in spite of everything/Dr. Doctor is a gifted and humorous individual/CrutchCricket has some mind-blowing ideas for fanfic/Yvonne Strahovski is at a pivotal moment in her career/Cereal/Ballerinas/Luis/We like the epilogue slides and the flashback/*Lingering bitterness and resentment over ME2 LI treatment*/Skullheart pessimism meter ranging from extremely pessimistic to explosively pessimistic/Confusion about Miranda's genetic origins/WTF is up with Miranda not being on Cronos station?!?!?!?!?!/EDI has Miranda's outfit, Ashley has her look, Liara has her office, everybody has her squad buff and defense stripping/What a f*cking joke!/Miranda appeals to people with brains, they didn't expect that/Damn she looks good in that flashback/Ass shot/Epilogue slides are more enjoyable to ponder than the core game content, you have got to be kidding me/ThePinkFoxx finished her cosplay/Time for some DLC.


Something like that 

Link?

[flemm]

MASSEFFECTfanforlife101 wrote...

BioWare is never going to give us what we want. It is always given to Team Dextro, Liara, Ashley, and Kaidan.

Try to relax a little. It's not that big of a deal, really.

kookie28 wrote...

Link?

We're still waiting on the photos. I think she did post some, but on her profile. I don't have them.

Modifié par flemm, 29 juin 2012 - 09:09 .

[MASSEFFECTfanforlife101]

flemm wrote...

MASSEFFECTfanforlife101 wrote...

BioWare is never going to give us what we want. It is always given to Team Dextro, Liara, Ashley, and Kaidan.

Try to relax a little. It's not that big of a deal, really.

Yes it is. Because we may end up being stuck with what we have while all those ME1 LI Lovers get everything they wished for in ME3 forever.

Modifié par MASSEFFECTfanforlife101, 29 juin 2012 - 09:11 .

[jtav]

And? This sort of thing happens. We fix it as best we can and advocate as best and politely as we can for BW to give us what we want. And we move on.

[kookie28]

jtav wrote...

And? This sort of thing happens. We fix it as best we can and advocate as best and politely as we can for BW to give us what we want. And we move on.

Miranda is his girlfriend.  This is hard on him.

[Trauma3x]

It seems that BW really don't like the LI (Garrus and Tali dont count casuse they're from ME1) or they penalize you for choicing another LI other than ME1, interesting wrinkle: I chose Ashley as my sheps LI however she Died on Virmire so that left my shep free and clear to explore other LI so I will say ME3 and the EC are a big letdown....LI's should always (minus thane cause you knew that was comming) playable at somepoint at least for the finally 1 or 2 missions (this is speaking directly for ME2 LI i.e. Miranda) ....

[MASSEFFECTfanforlife101]

I only have one LI. I only want one LI. Her name is Miranda Lawson. NOT Liara, NOT Ashley, and NOT Tali. MIRANDA LAWSON. Why the hell should ME2 Romancers be left to rot in the dust in the LAST Game?
Is this punishment for preferring an ME2 Character over an ME1 Character for Romance? Why should we players and the Characters be treated in such a way because we decided not to get some Blue Tail?


It's been a year since this Thread was Create. Doesn't BioWare notice all this Support?

Modifié par MASSEFFECTfanforlife101, 29 juin 2012 - 09:29 .

[giftfish]

Miranda fans, check out the new Petition for ME3 Romance DLC Thread and Polls!

[MASSEFFECTfanforlife101]

giftfish wrote...

Miranda fans, check out the new Petition for ME3 Romance DLC Thread and Polls!

Face it. It's all going to go to Liara, Ashley, Kaidan, and Team Dextro.

Modifié par MASSEFFECTfanforlife101, 29 juin 2012 - 09:32 .

[LanceSolous13]

Trauma3x wrote...

It seems that BW really don't like the LI (Garrus and Tali dont count casuse they're from ME1) or they penalize you for choicing another LI other than ME1, interesting wrinkle: I chose Ashley as my sheps LI however she Died on Virmire so that left my shep free and clear to explore other LI so I will say ME3 and the EC are a big letdown....LI's should always (minus thane cause you knew that was comming) playable at somepoint at least for the finally 1 or 2 missions (this is speaking directly for ME2 LI i.e. Miranda) ....

Not really on Thane. Yes, it was a huge posibility, but his Character Development is forgotten by ME3, his death is practically a Big Lipped Aligator Moment because the instant you get back to the Normandy, Garrus will state he was afraid they'd have to add another name to the wall, even though Thane, someone he went on a Suicide Mission with, died. There's no difference in dialogue between a Friend!Shep and a Romance!Shep. Lastly, All the ideas on how he could survive that were mentioned in ME2 are never mentioned again in ME3.

[flemm]

MASSEFFECTfanforlife101 wrote...
It's been a year since this Thread was Create. Doesn't BioWare notice all this Support?

Yes, they almost certainly do. So what you can do is continue to support.

But get a grip, man.

Modifié par flemm, 29 juin 2012 - 09:34 .

[MASSEFFECTfanforlife101]

What's the point if we're not going to get anything else in the End?

[MASSEFFECTfanforlife101]

Come on, people. More have to Vote on this. Liara is winning, which makes it seem like the Poll is unfairly rigged. Honestly, Liara has ENOUGH Content already. Give Miri a Chance!

http://social.biowar...5&poll_id=36026

[jtav]

I'd say they noticed. Notice the difference in tone of almost everything that doesn't require Miranda to talk. They're giving us what we ask for, albeit on the cheap.

[MASSEFFECTfanforlife101]

jtav wrote...

I'd say they noticed. Notice the difference in tone of almost everything that doesn't require Miranda to talk. They're giving us what we ask for, albeit on the cheap.

There giving us what we ask for only 1/4 of the way.

[Dr. Doctor]

 Romance-related content is good, but I don't really have a problem with what Miranda has right now. What I would like to see is content that focuses on Miranda and her relationship with Cerberus. It's completely non-existant in ME3 and even people who don't even like Miranda have asked why she has nothing to say about the organization. 

[MASSEFFECTfanforlife101]

Dr. Doctor wrote...

 Romance-related content is good, but I don't really have a problem with what Miranda has right now. What I would like to see is content that focuses on Miranda and her relationship with Cerberus. It's completely non-existant in ME3 and even people who don't even like Miranda have asked why she has nothing to say about the organization. 

You have no idea how much hatred and sadness grew out of me when seeing all those Romantic Moments with Liara and Ashley while running to the Beam, and realizing that we can never have that with Miri.


This has not been a good day.

Modifié par MASSEFFECTfanforlife101, 29 juin 2012 - 09:54 .

[flemm]

MASSEFFECTfanforlife101 wrote...

There giving us what we ask for only 1/4 of the way.

They don't have to do anything, really. That's not how it works. We can support some additions to the game, but there is no guarantee.

That's how it is, and you have to deal with that.

[Tyrannosaurus Rex]

jtav wrote...

Does this dialogue seem Catalyst-y enough to you?

The man who came before me was many things. He was an artist who sought to chronicle the galaxy through paint and pencil. He was a deadly soldier with command over matter itself. He was a lover who longed for nothing more than to spend the rest of his days with the woman he saw as perfection. He was a diplomat who sought to heal the wounds of the past and set free all life.

Then he saw how organics squandered that freedom. He saw salarians who were so ruled by fear that they would rather hide than cooperate with their old enemy against a greater threat. He saw quarians consumed by a thirst for vengeance that lead to their destruction. He saw the asari hoard knowledge that could have saved billions of lives. And he became enraged. Through that rage I was created. I do what he could not. I compel the many to make peace. I save them from their mistakes. I heal the wounds they inflicted.

I watch his beloved. His memories echo within me. I do not love her, but I remember the feel of her hand in his, her slight smile. His last thoughts were of protecting her. And so I do. I watch as she rebuilds something new from the ashes of the organization she served. I let her bring light to dark places and see her love her sister. There is purpose in my observation. He loved her for her brilliance, but if that brilliance burns too brightly, she could unleash chaos in the galaxy. My Reapers serve organics, but organics must never be allowed to surpass them for the good of the many. I watch so that she does not make a mockery of his sacrifice.

The message appears without warning, tucked away in the society column of a human newspaper. Miranda Lawson has given birth to a son. Though "birth" is perhaps the wrong word. The child was created as she was. But this time, there is only one other source of DNA: the man I used to be. Echoes of love and grief he flitter across my mind. This was another dream he sacrificed in my creation, the family he lost in adolescence that he hoped to create with her. The regret fills and consumes me, stronger than it ever has. And perhaps I am curious to see this child of his. We are both his progeny in our own way. I am infinite; the child is bound by time. I remember, but he can love.

It is decided. The species we harvested had within them the knowledge to create shells of flesh and blood. A piece of my mind will assume his mortal form for a time. I will see this child of his, this brother of mine. I will come face-to-face with his beloved.

And through it all, I will watch.

Sorry for randomly breaking into this thread. Just wanted to say that I like this, and I think it sounds "catalyst-y" enough. 

Always enjoy reading fics that deals with the control ending and the new catalyst.

[dtrain24]

http://social.biowar...25/polls/36026/

Everyone should vote for Miranda here if you haven't already.

[MASSEFFECTfanforlife101]

Off Topic: Does ANYONE know how to open the Extended Cut file to get the Screenshots and stuff?

[Caihn]

I'm not satisfied with Miranda's content in ME3 (including the romance), and I will continue to voice my opinion.
The EC improved the ending, but the ending has never been my main concern. It changed nothing about her poor role and the lack of content.