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[flemm]

It would have been enjoyable to see. However, since they decided not to do them at all, I don't mind imagining it.

[dtrain24]

Yannkee wrote...

Yeah .. too bad the Shep&Miri reunion scene is missing. :/

Yeah...

[o Ventus]

LanceSolous13 wrote...

I would diagree. You were the first to make her emotionally attached and you changed her in much most subtle ways. By breaking up with her, She no longer feels like she can trust you. She tries to find alternative ways besides going to you for help and trust.

So, She doesn't die from the breakup persay, but it certainly puts her on the path for it later. Just, from the game standpoint, breaking up with her effectivly kills her.

If this were true, it should be explored in-game, whether it be through a dialogue during the death scene, or a post-mortem email (from Oriana or someone else) or some other source.

Nothing against creative interpretation, but I prefer having the information in front of me so I can analyze it without too much difficulty. One reason why I utterly loathe the original endings.

Modifié par o Ventus, 02 juillet 2012 - 09:03 .

[fiendishchicken]

Ieldra2 wrote...

Nah, not for me. Anger and rage aren't primary characteristics of my main Shepard. Though he regrets some of the things he has to do, being a strategist using the "ruthless calculus of war", he deals with his emotions like a salarian and stays cool and composed, most of the time. There's no hate for the Reapers either - after all, he already suspects they're not their own masters - just quiet determination to save civilization. Miranda's the only thing he gets emotional about, and sacrificing himself for a brigher future is even more meaningful since he sacrifices a future with Miranda. I'll have him come back of course, like Keiji. And that's as romantic as it comes...   

I like that idea. It actually almost completely mirrors how I envision my own Shepard, but mine has a lot of bitterness towards the alliance, the council, and a lot of the races for them all being unable to overcome their differences to the detriment to those races citizens. He has a sort of basic belief in common decency in the universe, nothing religious or too structured as he's an atheist, but just a belief that the universe is fundamentally a decent place at its core, and he wonders about the Reapers and what their true origin and backstory is. He's the kind of guy who has to have answers to things, and while he believes in cause-and-effect and random circumstance, he doesn't see a valid reason behind the Reapers existence. He's not prone to emotional outbursts (except over those he REALLY cares about) but when he does blow up, he blows up in a supervolcanic thermonuclear  gamma-ray eruption, where even Miranda is taken aback and frightened by the severity, though it's not in his nature to do it, and he doesn't really mean to. I also have him surviving. Difference of perspective their between us, I prefer the cliche happy ending where he lives, Miri lives, and the Reapers are destroyed, and RGB never happened. Basically my ending is like the refuse option, except the races are united enough through all the war assets I collected to defeat the Reapers.

Modifié par fiendishchicken, 02 juillet 2012 - 09:15 .

[hot_heart]

LanceSolous13 wrote...
I would diagree. You were the first to make her emotionally attached and you changed her in much most subtle ways. By breaking up with her, She no longer feels like she can trust you. She tries to find alternative ways besides going to you for help and trust.

So, She doesn't die from the breakup persay, but it certainly puts her on the path for it later. Just, from the game standpoint, breaking up with her effectivly kills her.

That's what was being discussed though. While it may make some sense, from a story standpoint, she doesn't act any differently besides cutting short the original conversation. You can still tell her about Kai Leng and she will still ask for access to Alliance resources.

If they were after that approach, they could've presented it more adequately. Right now it's just a toggle switch for live/die.

[LanceSolous13]

One thing that came up in another thread, Everyone was discussing how the ME2 Squaddies get completely sidelined and people were argueing over who should get DLC and fighting, ete.

My idea would be, instead of singling out a single ME2 Squadmate, Why not leave two slots open for Shepard to have Recruitment Control over? There's no reason for us to not recruit Samara or Kasumi or Zaeed or, dare I say it, Jacob (I never liked him. He was so boring and never wanted to talk.). I can understand Jack not wanting to join Shepard, She has other engagements, but there isn't that much reason for Miri to not join. And, hell, Liara is the Shadow Broker, as much as I hate it, She can get Miri the needed info.

[o Ventus]

Yannkee wrote...

o Ventus wrote...

Yannkee wrote...

JeanLuc761 wrote...

Yannkee wrote...

flemm wrote...

Destroy is not bad. We don't see Orianna, but she's probably fine

Yeah .. too bad the Shep&Miri reunion scene is missing. :/

To be fair, all of the LI's have that letdown.  That's why we make our own 

I don't want to make my own, I want to see a real reunion scene made by Bioware.

But creating one is much more fun (Hell, writing my reunion for Salvation was one of the most intriguing things I've done in recent memory). Sure, seeing one occur on-screen would be amazing, but creating your own is the only way to make it "perfect". It can never be invalidated.

Sorry but fanfics are not my cup of tea. (nothing against fanfics writers, I respect what they do)
I just want to see the scene Bioware could create, not a scene imagined by me or an another person.
I would like that Bioware finish the story. IMO without this scene the story is not complete.

Fair enough, and I do see your point.

For them telling us a story, it's conspicuously incomplete.

[fiendishchicken]

LanceSolous13 wrote...

One thing that came up in another thread, Everyone was discussing how the ME2 Squaddies get completely sidelined and people were argueing over who should get DLC and fighting, ete.

My idea would be, instead of singling out a single ME2 Squadmate, Why not leave two slots open for Shepard to have Recruitment Control over? There's no reason for us to not recruit Samara or Kasumi or Zaeed or, dare I say it, Jacob (I never liked him. He was so boring and never wanted to talk.). I can understand Jack not wanting to join Shepard, She has other engagements, but there isn't that much reason for Miri to not join. And, hell, Liara is the Shadow Broker, as much as I hate it, She can get Miri the needed info.

Liara's not the shadow broker. That award goes to Traynor.

[LanceSolous13]

o Ventus wrote...

LanceSolous13 wrote...

I would diagree. You were the first to make her emotionally attached and you changed her in much most subtle ways. By breaking up with her, She no longer feels like she can trust you. She tries to find alternative ways besides going to you for help and trust.

So, She doesn't die from the breakup persay, but it certainly puts her on the path for it later. Just, from the game standpoint, breaking up with her effectivly kills her.

If this were true, it should be explored in-game, whether it be through a dialogue during the death scene, or a post-mortem email (from Oriana or someone else) or some other source.

Nothing against creative interpretation, but I prefer having the information in front of me so I can analyze it without too much difficulty. One reason why I utterly loathe the original endings.

D'oh. Let's just face the fact that every charater should have gotten the Mordin Treatment.

Actually, come to think of it, I think everyone WAS going to get the Mordin Treatment. Kasumi was going to have a big mission on the Drell and Hanar Homeworld of Kajje and would live or die depending on what you did with the Greybox in ME2. Zaeed was prominantly featured in the Retake Omega mission idea, working for Cerberus, and would either switch sides or you'd have to kill him depending on how you treated him in ME2.

[o Ventus]

fiendishchicken wrote...

LanceSolous13 wrote...

One thing that came up in another thread, Everyone was discussing how the ME2 Squaddies get completely sidelined and people were argueing over who should get DLC and fighting, ete.

My idea would be, instead of singling out a single ME2 Squadmate, Why not leave two slots open for Shepard to have Recruitment Control over? There's no reason for us to not recruit Samara or Kasumi or Zaeed or, dare I say it, Jacob (I never liked him. He was so boring and never wanted to talk.). I can understand Jack not wanting to join Shepard, She has other engagements, but there isn't that much reason for Miri to not join. And, hell, Liara is the Shadow Broker, as much as I hate it, She can get Miri the needed info.

Liara's not the shadow broker. That award goes to Traynor.

True enough.

For Liara being the single most powerful and influential person in the galaxy with seemingly unlimited power and knowledge...

She isn't very good at her job.

[LanceSolous13]

fiendishchicken wrote...

LanceSolous13 wrote...

One thing that came up in another thread, Everyone was discussing how the ME2 Squaddies get completely sidelined and people were argueing over who should get DLC and fighting, ete.

My idea would be, instead of singling out a single ME2 Squadmate, Why not leave two slots open for Shepard to have Recruitment Control over? There's no reason for us to not recruit Samara or Kasumi or Zaeed or, dare I say it, Jacob (I never liked him. He was so boring and never wanted to talk.). I can understand Jack not wanting to join Shepard, She has other engagements, but there isn't that much reason for Miri to not join. And, hell, Liara is the Shadow Broker, as much as I hate it, She can get Miri the needed info.

Liara's not the shadow broker. That award goes to Traynor.

That's one of the reasons why I don't like Liara. She does nothing the entire game but it looks like she is doing something. Traynor tells you about 15 to 20 different missions through out the game. Liara tells you about a single mission and forces herself into 4 missions; Mars, Eden Prime, Thessia, and some other one. Traynor does more than she does and in a much more likable fasion.

The writing in that last scene though...."Anyone know where Cerberus is? Anyone?!" Should have had Shepard asking Liara, Liara not knowing at all, and then Traynor steps up to the plate.

[hot_heart]

"But look, Shepard, I have soooo many monitors and they follow you around the room!"

Plus, Traynor even has time to check your emails. What a darling.

Modifié par hot_heart, 02 juillet 2012 - 09:19 .

[fiendishchicken]

o Ventus wrote...

fiendishchicken wrote...

LanceSolous13 wrote...

One thing that came up in another thread, Everyone was discussing how the ME2 Squaddies get completely sidelined and people were argueing over who should get DLC and fighting, ete.

My idea would be, instead of singling out a single ME2 Squadmate, Why not leave two slots open for Shepard to have Recruitment Control over? There's no reason for us to not recruit Samara or Kasumi or Zaeed or, dare I say it, Jacob (I never liked him. He was so boring and never wanted to talk.). I can understand Jack not wanting to join Shepard, She has other engagements, but there isn't that much reason for Miri to not join. And, hell, Liara is the Shadow Broker, as much as I hate it, She can get Miri the needed info.

Liara's not the shadow broker. That award goes to Traynor.

True enough.

For Liara being the single most powerful and influential person in the galaxy with seemingly unlimited power and knowledge...

She isn't very good at her job.

Personally, I always saw TIM as being better than the shadow broker. I headcanon that everything that even the orignal shadow broker knew about Cerberus and TIM was all part of a carefully crafted plan by TIM to take him out. Of course, I also believe TIM was an avatar of the Reapers with a sort of unique type of indoctrination having happened to him in the Evolutions comic. 

[JeanLuc761]

Yannkee wrote...

Sorry but fanfics are not my cup of tea. (nothing against fanfics writers, I respect what they do)
I just want to see the scene Bioware could create, not a scene imagined by me or an another person.
I would like that Bioware finish the story. IMO without this scene the story is not complete.

Well, hopefully what I'm working on will at least help to fill the void, even if it isn't "official" 

[dtrain24]

Say if Miranda came aboard the Normandy...besides Shepard, who do you think she would get along the best with?
My money is on Traynor. Two smart women and Sam looks like someone who would respect Miranda for what she's done in the events of ME2 and 3.
Both are highly intelligent and Miranda could even help Sam with her data collecting.

[o Ventus]

fiendishchicken wrote...

o Ventus wrote...

fiendishchicken wrote...

LanceSolous13 wrote...

One thing that came up in another thread, Everyone was discussing how the ME2 Squaddies get completely sidelined and people were argueing over who should get DLC and fighting, ete.

My idea would be, instead of singling out a single ME2 Squadmate, Why not leave two slots open for Shepard to have Recruitment Control over? There's no reason for us to not recruit Samara or Kasumi or Zaeed or, dare I say it, Jacob (I never liked him. He was so boring and never wanted to talk.). I can understand Jack not wanting to join Shepard, She has other engagements, but there isn't that much reason for Miri to not join. And, hell, Liara is the Shadow Broker, as much as I hate it, She can get Miri the needed info.

Liara's not the shadow broker. That award goes to Traynor.

True enough.

For Liara being the single most powerful and influential person in the galaxy with seemingly unlimited power and knowledge...

She isn't very good at her job.

Personally, I always saw TIM as being better than the shadow broker. I headcanon that everything that even the orignal shadow broker knew about Cerberus and TIM was all part of a carefully crafted plan by TIM to take him out. Of course, I also believe TIM was an avatar of the Reapers with a sort of unique type of indoctrination having happened to him in the Evolutions comic. 

TIM is crafty, no doubt, but he isn't omniscient.

You're giving him a little too much credit. 

[fiendishchicken]

LanceSolous13 wrote...

The writing in that last scene though...."Anyone know where Cerberus is? Anyone?!" Should have had Shepard asking Liara, Liara not knowing at all, and then Traynor steps up to the plate.

A good scene for Miranda to walk into the war room, and provide the location.

BTW, isn't Cronos Station mobile? I'm sure I read it somewhere, but I want to make sure.

[o Ventus]

dtrain24 wrote...

Say if Miranda came aboard the Normandy...besides Shepard, who do you think she would get along the best with?
My money is on Traynor. Two smart women and Sam looks like someone who would respect Miranda for what she's done in the events of ME2 and 3.
Both are highly intelligent and Miranda could even help Sam with her data collecting.

I think Sam might be a bit too naive. I think she might get along with EDI. I got the feeling Miranda wasn't too fond of EDI in ME2.

Other than that... Maybe... Liara? By the end of LotSB, Liara certainly seems willing to meet and converse with Miranda. Just by virtue of Liara having nearly unlimited tactical intelligence Miranda would come to Liara looking for info on Oriana, and they would start there.

[fiendishchicken]

dtrain24 wrote...

Say if Miranda came aboard the Normandy...besides Shepard, who do you think she would get along the best with?
My money is on Traynor. Two smart women and Sam looks like someone who would respect Miranda for what she's done in the events of ME2 and 3.
Both are highly intelligent and Miranda could even help Sam with her data collecting.

I think Miranda would only be open to Shepard, and treat everyone else professionally albeit coldly. And she would find a lot of the pro-alliance attitudes prevalent on the ship quite annoying and Miranda would probably view Traynor as incredibly naive. She might make a quip about Traynor meeting her true potential back in pre ME3 Cerberus or whatever though.

Modifié par fiendishchicken, 02 juillet 2012 - 09:27 .

[o Ventus]

fiendishchicken wrote...

LanceSolous13 wrote...

The writing in that last scene though...."Anyone know where Cerberus is? Anyone?!" Should have had Shepard asking Liara, Liara not knowing at all, and then Traynor steps up to the plate.

A good scene for Miranda to walk into the war room, and provide the location.

BTW, isn't Cronos Station mobile? I'm sure I read it somewhere, but I want to make sure.

Yes it is.

[jtav]

She gets on well enough with Liara. She and Traynor would get on splendidly. Vega would flirt heavily. Everyone else would be various degrees of professional.

[fiendishchicken]

o Ventus wrote...

fiendishchicken wrote...

LanceSolous13 wrote...

The writing in that last scene though...."Anyone know where Cerberus is? Anyone?!" Should have had Shepard asking Liara, Liara not knowing at all, and then Traynor steps up to the plate.

A good scene for Miranda to walk into the war room, and provide the location.

BTW, isn't Cronos Station mobile? I'm sure I read it somewhere, but I want to make sure.

Yes it is.

Thanks. The way I plan on ending my fanfic is Shepard having completely turned to the (pre ME3) Cerberus ideology (though he plans on making them a watchdog group for all races) is he goes AWOL with Miranda and the Normandy, steals Cronos from the alliance science and security team (of which the alliance doesn't put two and two together and they neglect to realize Shepard has deserted them), Shepard and Normandy are presumed lost, and a few months later the Cerberus manifesto reappears on the extranet, with Shepard reciting the words, although this time, they are of course looking out for all of the galaxy.

Modifié par fiendishchicken, 02 juillet 2012 - 09:32 .

[o Ventus]

fiendishchicken wrote...

o Ventus wrote...

fiendishchicken wrote...

LanceSolous13 wrote...

The writing in that last scene though...."Anyone know where Cerberus is? Anyone?!" Should have had Shepard asking Liara, Liara not knowing at all, and then Traynor steps up to the plate.

A good scene for Miranda to walk into the war room, and provide the location.

BTW, isn't Cronos Station mobile? I'm sure I read it somewhere, but I want to make sure.

Yes it is.

Thanks. The way I plan on ending my fanfic is Shepard having completely turned to the (pre ME3) Cerberus ideology (though he plans on making them a watchdog group for all races) is he goes AWOL with Miranda and the Normandy, steals Cronos from the alliance science and security team (of which the alliance doesn't put two and two together and they neglect to realize Shepard has deserted them), Shepard and Normandy are presumed lost, and a few months later the Cerberus manifesto reappears on the extranet, with Shepard reciting the words, although this time, they are of course looking out for all of the galaxy.

At which time the Alliance locates Shepard and charges him with treason and theft of military hardware. That's what would realistically happen.

[fiendishchicken]

jtav wrote...

She gets on well enough with Liara. She and Traynor would get on splendidly. Vega would flirt heavily. Everyone else would be various degrees of professional.

Vega's nickname to her would be "Legs", to which Miranda would nonchalently threaten him if he ever called her that again. I'd like to see what Allers' reaction to her would be. Miranda would already dismiss her before taking more than a glance at her, although I see Allers as trying to exploit Shepard and Miri's relationship for ratings, after which Miri has a few choice words and an 'incident' or two might happen to Allers physical detriment.

[FahRENheit06]

fiendishchicken wrote...
BTW, isn't Cronos Station mobile? I'm sure I read it somewhere, but I want to make sure.

This point always confused me, since I guess Cronos Station just really likes blue/red stars that look really similar.

The Illusive Man is probably a terror to decorate for, since he only likes his space stations orbiting dying stars and doesn't drink beer but when he does, it's Dos Equis.