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"I'll always want you in my life." Miranda Lawson in Mass Effect 3


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MASSEFFECTfanforlife101 wrote...


 
I can't find ANY BioWare Pulse Videos about ME2


Because there aren't any. Bioware Pulse wasn't around during the development of ME2.

The only place you can see some early designs of Miranda is the ME2 artbook. 

In short, it has a few different variations of her costume and she's a blonde in most pics, as they originaly intended. Later, they changed the color of her hair because it looked better.

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Master Shiori wrote...

MASSEFFECTfanforlife101 wrote...


 
I can't find ANY BioWare Pulse Videos about ME2


Because there aren't any. Bioware Pulse wasn't around during the development of ME2.

The only place you can see some early designs of Miranda is the ME2 artbook. 

In short, it has a few different variations of her costume and she's a blonde in most pics, as they originaly intended. Later, they changed the color of her hair because it looked better.


And WHY the **** didn't any of the Users in the previous page tell me this???? I know about the art. I was looking for a "Making Of" Video COMPLETELY about Miri, showing footage, and showing the Devs talking about her and her Story. They didn't tell me that there wasn't. All they did was say BioWare pulse. I'm shocked....

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CrutchCricket wrote...

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I always took the fact that it reads "Commander" rather than his first time as a more symbolic thing. He was THE Commander Shepard. Not 'x' Shepard, but The Great Iconic Commander Shepard.

"Commander X Shepard" in no way diminishes his "great iconicness".

Another thing I find annoying is Shepard never being represented by a portrait in teh squad powers/weapon loadout screens. It's always the N7. How hard would it be to generate a small pic based on the face code?

A portrait generated from a custom character? Madness I say! *covers up Dragon Age*


Ehhh...true. Though, I suppose one could argue about space issues on that one. Is there a character limit to his name?

Hell, does his name ever make a difference anywhere?

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MASSEFFECTfanforlife101 wrote...
And WHY the **** didn't any of the Users in the previous page tell me this???? I know
about the art. I was looking for a "Making Of" Video COMPLETELY about
Miri, showing footage, and showing the Devs talking about her and her
Story. They didn't tell me that there wasn't. All they did was say
BioWare pulse. I'm shocked....


You ought not to be. Since you didn't know that, its relatively likely that others didnt. That is the first time I've actually ever heard of BioWare pulse.  Furthermore, the whole "why the **** didn't you tell me that?" bit... if that had been known, I would have certainly informed you. But dont forget, you could do some research too, you know. Wikipedia is easy enough to read.  Info is readily available on the interwebs.


Back on subject:
BioWare never treated Miranda as an incredibly serious character, so I doubt they have a "creation of" video out there. Maybe a mention in a ME2 character reveal video.

Modifié par RamilVenoard, 03 juillet 2012 - 09:18 .


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Ms. Lawson has great taste   :whistle:

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LanceSolous13 wrote...

Hell, does his name ever make a difference anywhere?



Not that I can recall. It's a nice idea but I can see why it wouldn't be something they'd bother implementing at this point.

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So Miranda comes on the Normandy. With with squaddie do you think the funniest conversation takes place with Miranda?
I'd say her conversation(s) with Vega would produce the most lol's.

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Edited the post, since I don't know what to post anymore, I checked the newest Miranda pics on deviantart. This is for Miranda/FemShep lovers:

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Ehhh...true. Though, I suppose one could argue about space issues on that one. Is there a character limit to his name?

Hell, does his name ever make a difference anywhere?

Yes it matters. I'm getting tired of the game treating Shepard like a drone.

As for space issues, you could just do initials if the name they entered is over x characters long. Or just always do initials. Anderson is listed as D. Anderson anyway.

Acknowledge my contributions, damn it!:crying:

Modifié par CrutchCricket, 03 juillet 2012 - 09:50 .


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dtrain24 wrote...

So Miranda comes on the Normandy. With with squaddie do you think the funniest conversation takes place with Miranda?
I'd say her conversation(s) with Vega would produce the most lol's.


I think Javik could produce many Lols and so could EDI.

I would like to see what kind of relationship Steve could have there. Espicially with Mr. Vega right there.

Samantha and Miranda probably wouldn't have friend status, but a mutual "Good Job" sort of thing.

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CrutchCricket wrote...

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Ehhh...true. Though, I suppose one could argue about space issues on that one. Is there a character limit to his name?

Hell, does his name ever make a difference anywhere?

Yes it matters. I'm getting tired of the game treating Shepard like a drone.

As for space issues, you could just do initials if the name they entered is over x characters long. Or just always do initials. Anderson is listed as D. Anderson anyway.

Acknowledge my contributions, damn it!:crying:


Oh. I meant if his first name ever actually changes anything in the game.

Like, if you have the Colonist background, Shepard will make a rather depressing comment about Mindoir when you go to Eden Prime.

Does his first name ever get mentioned in emails or anything?

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Just finished my second ME3 playthrough with a fully romanced Miri and still cant help but feel cheated. I cant fathom why she was never a squadmate, all the evidence pointed to her returning, A big Cerberus arc... pretty hard to kill in ME2's Suicide mission... In fact its a lot easier for Tali to die in ME2 if i'm correct? The lack of Miri is the real reason for me why ME2 will ALWAYS be better than ME3.

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LanceSolous13 wrote...
Oh. I meant if his first name ever actually changes anything in the game.

Like, if you have the Colonist background, Shepard will make a rather depressing comment about Mindoir when you go to Eden Prime.

Does his first name ever get mentioned in emails or anything?

No, but that's just more symptoms of the problem, not a mitigation for it.

Like I said before, why is the VS letter in ME2 not addressed to his first name?

There are people that are known mostly by their last names, or some variation thereof (for some reason only Stifler comes to mind). But that doesn't mean their first name is never mentioned. Typically their first name is used in very serious or very private circumstances or by people that are very close. And in cases where they're being honored, their name is never omitted.

I get that you can't get voice actors to say every possible name. But in writing? There is no excuse.

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I think a large part of why Miranda was hard to kill in ME2 was linked to needing at least one biotic for the barrier section. Not sure how true that is.

And, of course, it would've been nice if BioWare had capitalised on that outcome anyway.

Also, on a slightly related note, Miranda said "Problematic" at one point during the Derelict Reaper mission. Must work that into my story!

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Ehhh...The lack of his name isn't bothersome to me really. Didn't make a single difference to me.

Anyways, does anyone have a video of Miri telling the Illusive Man to go screw himself at the end of ME2?

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Anyways, does anyone have a video of Miri telling the Illusive Man to go screw himself at the end of ME2?

"I noticed. Consider this my resignation."

Modifié par hot_heart, 03 juillet 2012 - 10:28 .


#57192
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It's a minor concern for sure. And it only comes up in these few examples. I just find it irritating now that I think about it.

But anyway...

Modifié par CrutchCricket, 03 juillet 2012 - 10:30 .


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LanceSolous13 wrote...

dtrain24 wrote...

So Miranda comes on the Normandy. With with squaddie do you think the funniest conversation takes place with Miranda?
I'd say her conversation(s) with Vega would produce the most lol's.


I think Javik could produce many Lols and so could EDI.

I would like to see what kind of relationship Steve could have there. Espicially with Mr. Vega right there.

Samantha and Miranda probably wouldn't have friend status, but a mutual "Good Job" sort of thing.


While we're on the subject for crew, what nickname do you think is better for Javik? Brothean or Trollthean?

I'd say Trollthean...  ಠಠ_ಠಠ

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Brothean... \\°OVO°/

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I think I prefer Brothean as well Posted Image


But... Trollthean's not bad either.

Modifié par flemm, 03 juillet 2012 - 11:23 .


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Does anyone want to see my attempt at Miranda/Traynor?

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jtav wrote...

Does anyone want to see my attempt at Miranda/Traynor?


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As you wish

The photographs hadn't done Miranda Lawson justice. Fairytale princesses were fake, a construct dreamed up by an illustrator to appeal to kids and the overly romantic. Miranda was, well, real. No illustrator would make the blush on her cheeks that subtle or think to add the subtle gradients of skin tone. Her hair was raggedly cut, but thick and dark. Probably lustrous when she had time to take care of it. The sort you would want to run your fingers through. Her jacket and tights were almost identical to EDI’s uniform, but it clung to Miranda the way it never did EDI. Miranda was thinner than she had been in the photographs, but she was still all curves and lean muscle. No wonder Donnelly waxed nostalgic about her time as XO. If Traynor had been in Shepard's place, she wouldn't have waited a moment to see Miranda again and explore those curves for herself.

And perhaps it was better to stop that train of thought before she made a fool of herself. Ogling your commanding officer’s girlfriend had to be against some regulation.

Miranda's lips twitched. "How nice to know that I can still command attention even in my current state."

Well, before she made an even bigger fool of herself. Heat flooded her cheeks. “I’m sorry. How terribly inappropriate of me. I’ll just…”

Miranda held up a hand. “It’s not your fault. Well, no more than it is anyone else’s. I was designed to, ah, elicit a reaction.” Her voice was clipped and aristocratic, but Traynor was pretty sure that her accent was natural and not the result of long hours with a diction coach like hers. "And it's worth it to finally meet the famous Specialist Samantha Traynor."

Traynor was so surprised that she forgot to be humiliated. "You know who I am?"

Miranda nodded. "J—Commander Shepard talked about you. Thank you for keeping him sane in my absence. Is he coming, by the way, or are you and Chakwas's to be my only company." For the first time, she didn't sound cold or ironic. She sounded hopeful.

"I'm sorry. He has a meeting coordinating strategy for the assault on Cronos." Traynor cringed inwardly. She sounded like Shepard's personal assistant.

Miranda flinched as if she'd been stung by a mosquito. "Of course. The mission has to come first. We'll have plenty of time to catch up later."

"He asked me to keep you company." She flushed again. "I quite understand if you don't want to spend time with the person who can’t seem to go five seconds without losing her mind." She held up the chess set. "I'll just leave this here. You can trounce Shepard at your leisure once he comes back."

"Stay." Her voice was quietly authoritative, and Traynor found herself standing still without the need to smooth her uniform. Miranda smiled again. It wasn't obviously false like Shepard’s, but it was small and tense. Tentative, as if she were trying to practice for the real thing. "I haven't had a proper opponent in ages. Why don't we play a game?" She raised an eyebrow and her voice was all irony again. "That is, unless Shepard was exaggerating your skill. You probably couldn’t keep up with me."

That did it. Traynor had never been able to resist a challenge, even from beautiful women that made her temporarily misplaced her brain. "White or black?" she growled.

Traynor spent the first few moves as she did in all games with unfamiliar opponents: studying their strengths and weaknesses and figuring out their strategy. Miranda was a cautious player. She left few openings, and those she did would require Traynor to sacrifice an even more valuable piece. Rook for knight and queen for rook. Unlike Shepard, she didn't seem to know the meaning of the word charge. It threw Traynor off balance. She preferred to let her opponent be the initial aggressor and capitalize on the inevitable mistake. It was going to be a long game.

Miranda lost her queen’s bishop twenty minutes into the match. She frowned at the interface, and Traynor thought that maybe she had finally found a ****** in her armor. But Miranda's next words weren’t about chess. "I understand that you’re the one who tracked Leng’s shuttle to Sanctuary. I suppose that means I owe you my life."

Traynor shrugged. Her work was fascinating and fulfilling, but it felt strange to think of it as life-saving. "Shepard's the one you should thank. He's the one who fought through the husks.”

"And you are the one that led him there. The small, subtle action that reaps great rewards later. I spent my entire adult life doing that. Steal the right schematics so that humanity can make a breakthrough in biotics. Bribe the right functionary so that an election goes one way and not another. Bring a man back from the dead so that he'll one day stop the Collectors and save the galaxy twice over." She bowed her head, and tension roiled through her shoulders. "But it turns out the results aren't what I thought they would be,” she said softly.



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jtav wrote...

*snip*

"And you are the one that led him there. The small, subtle action that reaps great rewards later. I spent my entire adult life doing that. Steal the right schematics so that humanity can make a breakthrough in biotics. Bribe the right functionary so that an election goes one way and not another. Bring a man back from the dead so that he'll one day stop the Collectors and save the galaxy twice over. Moving my rook at the onslaught so you'd fall into my trap..." She bowed her head, and tension roiled through her shoulders. "But it turns out the results aren't what I thought they would be,” she said softly. "Check mate" Miranda added, almost as an afterthought.


I added I line I thought might be interesting. Not that I am disparaging your work in any way shape or form. It is really quite enjoyable to read. I just added something I thought Miranda would do/say.

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Thanks. I added the check later, but the other's a great idea.