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"I'll always want you in my life." Miranda Lawson in Mass Effect 3


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Silly guys. The logs on Cronos explained it all!

Miranda was the poster child for when they needed to spend two years resurrecting and convincing Alliance personnel to join their cause, but she couldn't be too nice or they would suspect something was amiss.

You know it all makes sense.

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No. Miri is no Villain. Please stop. She can't be. I don't want her to be. She is no Terrorist. You are all so damn twisted. You all like evil so ****ing much, it's sickening. What about the GOOD in Miri? HUH???? Do you all throw that away like trash? You all need to stop focusing on the negative things in Miri's past. She doesn't work for them anymore. She isn't evil!

I'm not well already. And this is just making it worse. She was Cerberus, she supported those experiments. But she saw TIM true colors in the End. He when too far and he went against what she believed in. She quits.


Would she still support those experiments afterwards? OMG I'm so confused now. v_v

"I believe what Cerberus stands for." I thought she was fooled like the rest of the Normandy crew in ME2.:(

Modifié par MASSEFFECTfanforlife101, 04 juillet 2012 - 06:41 .


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Embrace the dark side.:D

Honestly I would almost pay somebody to photoshop a "Sith Miranda" right about now.

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MASSEFFECTfanforlife101 wrote...

No. Miri is no Villain. Please stop. She can't be. I don't want her to be. She is no Terrorist. You are all so damn twisted. You all like evil so ****ing much, it's sickening. What about the GOOD in Miri? HUH???? Do you all throw that away like trash? You all need to stop focusing on the negative things in Miri's past. She doesn't work for them anymore. She isn't evil!

I'm not well already. And this is just making it worse. She was Cerberus, she supported those experiments. But she saw TIM true colors in the End. He when too far and he went against what she believed in. She quits.


Would she still support those experiments afterwards? OMG I'm so confused now. v_v

"I believe what Cerberus stands for." I thought she was fooled like the rest of the Normandy crew in ME2.:(


Ok. You're out of control, mate. Your last three post have been variations of the above madness, and I realize we had a little confrontation before, but this is kind of bothersome. So stop.  If you don't like a suggestion, post once. Don't interject into a conversation three times--it's just obnoxious.

My apologies for harsh words, but I feel like it's called for here.

Modifié par RamilVenoard, 04 juillet 2012 - 06:47 .


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CrutchCricket wrote...
Honestly I would almost pay somebody to photoshop a "Sith Miranda" right about now.

The Renegade Scars Miranda on DA will have to suffice.

I'm not linking it. That would involve looking at it again...

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As usual, you are overreacting. Stop it, its annoying. No one said she was evil. But everyone knows that she had a past. Why? Because she worked with Cerberus. It's as simple as that. You don't have to like it, but thats how it works. You don't reach 2IC by playing nice. Get over it. We all know she quits, we were there. She has flaws just like everybody else. This thread talks about the "GOOD in Miri" all the time, why can't it bring up her checkered past every once in a while, it doesn't change how we all feel about her.

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Because of this confusion I feel like I'm living in denial now. Why did you all mention this. I thought Miri said that a few of the experiment did cross the line. I feel so dizzy now.

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If you feel unwell it's time to stop posting and seek medical help. Or just lie down and relax for a bit.

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Miranda is a villain.

She broke Jacob's heart (lured him into Cerberus with sex?). She kidnaped the daughter of Henry Lawson. She eats asari babies. She tried to destroy a quarian ship. She created the genophage. She sleeps with TIM. She's a racist. She wanted to implant a control ship in Shepard's head. She's a terrorist. She wanted to control the rachnis, husks and thorian creepers. Teltin was her idea. She is a cold hearted b¡tch, She wanted to have sex right were Tali works. The starbrat is her creation. She organized the Cerberus coup. She forced Dr. Archer to use his brother in the Overlord Project. She created toxine that target turians. She abducted entire human colonies and wanted to create a human reaper. She tortured Toombs. She shooted Conrad Verner. She killed Thane. She killed Charr. She killed Emily Wong. She suggested Snooki Allers to board the Normandy. If anone died in the SM, it was by her fault. She killed the father of Oriana Lawson. She tortured Veetor. She killed Kal'Reegar. She killed tali's father. The quarian-Geth peace can't be made by her fault. She killed Legion and used its remains as a ******. She attacked and destroyed the SR1. She killed Jenkins. She killed Pressly just to usurp his position as XO. She is an abomination. She has sex with random guys. She killed a Papa. She indoctrinated the colonists from Chasca. She torturated Kahoku. She wanted to sell Shepard's body to the Collectors. She killed Kelly. She broke Shepard's ship models. She let out the space hamster. Shepard fishes never died by lack of food, Miranda killed them. She ate Shepard's cereal during ME2. She brought the varren scale itch to the Normandy. She created the Omega plague. She killed Aria's daughter. She destroyed the receive from refund guy. She started a brothel on the Citadel and took the consort out of business.

Miranda is clearly a villian.

Modifié par Skullheart, 04 juillet 2012 - 07:15 .


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Miranda is both idealistic and ruthless. She wants a brighter future for humanity, but she'll kill for it. That apparent contradiction intrigues me. It doesn't disqualify her from being happy or lessen her good qualities. But it exists.

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Skullheart wrote...
Miranda is clearly a villian.

She also let out the space hamster.

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Skullheart wrote...

Miranda is a villain.

She broke Jacob's heart (lured him into Cerberus with sex?). She kidnaped the daughter of Henry Lawson. She eats asari babies. She tried to destroy a quarian ship. She created the genophage. She sleeps with TIM. She's a racist. She wanted to implant a control ship in Shepard's head. She's a terrorist. She wanted to control the rachnis, husks and thorian creepers. Teltin was her idea. She is a cold hearted b¡tch, She wanted to have sex right were Tali works. The starbrat is her creation. She organized the Cerberus coup. She forced Dr. Archer to use his brother in the Overlord Project. She created toxine that target turians. She abducted entire human colonies and wanted to create a human reaper. She tortured Toombs. She shooted Conrad Verner. She killed Thane. She killed Charr. She killed Emily Wong. She suggested Snooki Allers to board the Normandy. If anone died in the SM, it was by her fault. She killed the father of Oriana Lawson. She tortured Veetor. She killed Kal'Reegar. She killed tali's father. The quarian-Geth peace can't be made by her fault. She killed Legion and used its remains as a ******. She attacked and destroyed the SR1. She killed Jenkins. She killed Pressly just to usurp his position as XO. She is an abomination. She has sex with random guys. She killed a Papa. She indoctrinated the colonists from Chasca. She torturated Kahoku. She wanted to sell Shepard's body to the Collectors. She killed Kelly. She broke Shepard's ship models. She let out the space hamster. Shepard fishes never died by lack of food, Miranda killed them. Sha ate Shepard's cereal during ME2.

Miranda is clearly a villian.

:o

Now I feel sad:crying:

... either that or I'm thinking of a Sith name for her.

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Darth Frosty, Darth Ass?

Modifié par Skullheart, 04 juillet 2012 - 07:16 .


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The way I see it, in ME2, I opened Miri's eyes. I helped her see things other than Cerberus. Inside that Operative is a Caring and a Trustworthy Woman. She has family. If I never said one word to Miri, she would have still been a Loyal Cerberus Operative, never seeing things beyond Cerberus. She became more open minded. I helped her become a better person. I earned her trust, and she earned mine. She showed me that there's a light in every shadow. Her caring for the people close to her, like Oriana, proves that. She supported Cerberus, yes. But over time she started seeing things differently. Over time she started seeing Cerberus as nothing but an abomination. Realizing slowly that maybe Cerberus isn't all that's cracked up to be. Believing in me, following my Leadership. Seeing everything differently. She gained Compassion while part of my crew. The SM was the last straw after hearing TIM's proposal. She became a Better Person. This works Perfectly in the Romance.

If none of you can see this, it's not my problem.


And don't you even dare try to tell me that I'm so called "Wrong." That's ANOTHER thing I'm sick of. It's MY DAMN OPINION! Don't even try to object or even say that I'm "Wrong." Who the hell are any of you to say that someone is "Wrong" for having a different opinion than yours, as if your opinion is forever right? Hmm? Some of you do have that problem. Is this not a Thread for people to express different opinions? This isn't a place to discriminate.

Modifié par MASSEFFECTfanforlife101, 04 juillet 2012 - 07:24 .


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Skullheart wrote...

Darth Frosty, Darth Ass?


Darth Frigyss (sounds better than it looks)?

Darth Vixyss?

I got nothing.

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Darth Ishtar?

Ishtar was a sumerian goddess from love and war.

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o Ventus wrote...

LanceSolous13 wrote...

I'm not sure about the other romances, but Cortez will state "Who says I'm not? But, I hear you have a lady waiting for you." He'll have a similar line about something between you and Kaidan if he's romanced. Once again, no idea about Tali or Liara or someone.


Is it a reaction to what Shepard can say via dialogue wheel, or is it automated? If it's the former, then which dialogue do you pick ot hear him say that?


When you talk to him at the Bar, Its reply to the Paragon options. Shepard will say "I'm hurt. *strike a pose* Why aren't you looking over here?"

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hot_heart wrote...

Skullheart wrote...
Miranda is clearly a villian.

She also let out the space hamster.


She was hoping it would attack Jack in the middle of the night.

VICIOUS SPACE HAMSTAR! RAWR!

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hot_heart wrote...

Skullheart wrote...
Miranda is clearly a villian.

She also let out the space hamster.


And stole all of Shepard's model ships.

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o Ventus wrote...

hot_heart wrote...

Skullheart wrote...
Miranda is clearly a villian.

She also let out the space hamster.


And stole all of Shepard's model ships.


Sadly, Kelly saved the fish.

Damn that dirty secretary. She foiled Miranda's Evil Plots!

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MASSEFFECTfanforlife101 wrote...
And don't you even dare try to tell me that I'm so called "Wrong." That's ANOTHER thing I'm sick of. It's MY DAMN OPINION!  Who the hell are any of you to say that someone is "Wrong" for having a different opinion than yours, as if your opinion is forever right? Hmm? Some of you do have that problem. Is this not a Thread for people to express different opinions? This isn't a place to discriminate.


You're one to talk. Your state of mind seems to think that "Miri is the best person in the entire world and if you believe differently you are 'twisted' and 'sickening'." Everyone that thinks even slightly different than you, or brings up true content about Miranda that you don't like, you panic and outburst at everyone involved. As soon as a flaw about Miranda surfaces you go into "THE END IS NIGH!! I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO BELIEVE IN ANYMORE!!" mode. For you to say that everyone else has a problem, maybe you should review some of your own posts.


As for Miranda and the space hamster, she did release it, but by the time it reached Jack's bunk, she was already gone! The hamster is part turtle. :P

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LanceSolous13 wrote...

o Ventus wrote...

hot_heart wrote...

Skullheart wrote...
Miranda is clearly a villian.

She also let out the space hamster.


And stole all of Shepard's model ships.


Sadly, Kelly saved the fish.

Damn that dirty secretary. She foiled Miranda's Evil Plots!


Indeed, Miranda's plans to mildly annoy Shepard were laid to rest by those meddling kids -- I mean, the ship's psychologist.

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o Ventus wrote...

LanceSolous13 wrote...

o Ventus wrote...

hot_heart wrote...

Skullheart wrote...
Miranda is clearly a villian.

She also let out the space hamster.


And stole all of Shepard's model ships.


Sadly, Kelly saved the fish.

Damn that dirty secretary. She foiled Miranda's Evil Plots!


Indeed, Miranda's plans to mildly annoy Shepard were laid to rest by those meddling kids -- I mean, the ship's psychologist.


Oh my god.

Now I have a horrible Superhero Parody going in my head with Miri being the big bad villan and Kelly being the Hero. XD

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jtav wrote...
Miranda is both idealistic and ruthless. She wants a brighter future for humanity, but she'll kill for it. That apparent contradiction intrigues me. It doesn't disqualify her from being happy or lessen her good qualities. But it exists.

I think this mix of attributes is exactly what makes her interesting. Going off to either side would lessen her.

@Skullheart:
:lol:
I see what you're doing here.