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[Ieldra]

Skullheart wrote...

Darth Ishtar?

Ishtar was a sumerian goddess from love and war.

Heh...I can see "Ishtar" as a codename she occasionally uses. Rather fitting.

[iHorizons]

I know I'm beating a dead horse here but I really miss the ME2 Miranda, I really don't like her in ME3; to me she feels boring and like she doesn't really have a place in the game when she seems the most obvious to be a squadmember especially with her knowledge of Cerberus. But who really needs Miranda when we have the smurf right?

[fiendishchicken]

MASSEFFECTfanforlife101 wrote...

Wait...that can't be right. Miri couldn't have been a Villain. She couldn't have been involved in such things. No.


Denying? Where the **** do you all come up with this crap? You trying to change a person's outlook on Miri as a Character or something?


Sometimes I regret coming to visit this Thread. Some of you say many damned negative things. Things that can end up twisting and confusing the mind.

maybe you're just weak minded...

[fiendishchicken]

Skullheart wrote...

Miranda is a villain.

She broke Jacob's heart (lured him into Cerberus with sex?). She kidnaped the daughter of Henry Lawson. She eats asari babies. She tried to destroy a quarian ship. She created the genophage. She sleeps with TIM. She's a racist. She wanted to implant a control ship in Shepard's head. She's a terrorist. She wanted to control the rachnis, husks and thorian creepers. Teltin was her idea. She is a cold hearted b¡tch, She wanted to have sex right were Tali works. The starbrat is her creation. She organized the Cerberus coup. She forced Dr. Archer to use his brother in the Overlord Project. She created toxine that target turians. She abducted entire human colonies and wanted to create a human reaper. She tortured Toombs. She shooted Conrad Verner. She killed Thane. She killed Charr. She killed Emily Wong. She suggested Snooki Allers to board the Normandy. If anone died in the SM, it was by her fault. She killed the father of Oriana Lawson. She tortured Veetor. She killed Kal'Reegar. She killed tali's father. The quarian-Geth peace can't be made by her fault. She killed Legion and used its remains as a ******. She attacked and destroyed the SR1. She killed Jenkins. She killed Pressly just to usurp his position as XO. She is an abomination. She has sex with random guys. She killed a Papa. She indoctrinated the colonists from Chasca. She torturated Kahoku. She wanted to sell Shepard's body to the Collectors. She killed Kelly. She broke Shepard's ship models. She let out the space hamster. Shepard fishes never died by lack of food, Miranda killed them. She ate Shepard's cereal during ME2. She brought the varren scale itch to the Normandy. She created the Omega plague. She killed Aria's daughter. She destroyed the receive from refund guy. She started a brothel on the Citadel and took the consort out of business.

Miranda is clearly a villian.

OHH EHM GEE!!! What if Miranda IS a Reaper?!? 

Your mind = blown

[LanceSolous13]

...When did she sleep with TIM? I no want cross-polination with that dude...

And, She didn't shoot Conrad. I did that myself!

[o Ventus]

fiendishchicken wrote...

OHH EHM GEE!!! What if Miranda IS a Reaper?!? 

Your mind = blown

Not just a Reaper, but Harbinger.

She is a MiReaper.

[LanceSolous13]

o Ventus wrote...

fiendishchicken wrote...

OHH EHM GEE!!! What if Miranda IS a Reaper?!? 

Your mind = blown

Not just a Reaper, but Harbinger.

She is a MiReaper.

No. She's a REAPER DOOMS DAY DEVICE!

Oh ****!

[jtav]

So how do you think Miranda would cope with a romanced Shepard who survived, but lost some functionality? Stipulate that it's permanent.

[Skullheart]

LanceSolous13 wrote...

o Ventus wrote...

fiendishchicken wrote...

OHH EHM GEE!!! What if Miranda IS a Reaper?!? 

Your mind = blown

Not just a Reaper, but Harbinger.

She is a MiReaper.

No. She's a REAPER DOOMS DAY DEVICE!

Oh ****!

Whatthe hell are you both thinking...  A reaper? a DDD?

Miranda is neither of those things.She is the Catalyst, the very reason of why ME3 originally sucks.

@jtav

Can't she put a Lazarus 2.0? In that case, if she really love him, she will stay at his side, no matter what his condition is. I can imagine Shepard trying to convince her to forget about him, that she must find happiness with someone else. 

Modifié par Skullheart, 04 juillet 2012 - 10:49 .

[kaymarierose]

jtav wrote...

So how do you think Miranda would cope with a romanced Shepard who survived, but lost some functionality? Stipulate that it's permanent.

I think it would depend on what functionality he lost. I'd imagine she'd love him all the same. But the situation would changed depending on what happened. For example becoming paralyzed and being confined to a wheelchair as opposed to suffering head trauma and losing memories. Both being a loss in functionality, but differing in physical vs mental.

[LanceSolous13]

Considering the medical advancements of 2180, Its doubtful that anything is perminantly damaged. They can clone lost limbs to be reattached, as evident in Mass Effect 3, and Shepard was brough back from death's realm, thoigh, with billions of Credits and 2 years of labor, but still possible.

I'm honestly surprised there isn't a cure to Joker's Vrolik's Syndrome by now. Or, maybe there is but its far too expensive and time consuming at the time?

[hot_heart]

Miranda could be Darth Isolde, which I believe means 'rules over the ice' in some old language way. Matches the ice queen image anyway. Whatever...

...I lost track of where this thread is. Spent all evening working on...wait for it...shameless plug incoming...a Jack and Miranda one-shot.

[LanceSolous13]

I didn't even consider the mental issues Shepard might have. I think, she would try to help him, to repay him, for everything he'd done for her. But, at the same time, I think she would move on after a few years if his condition never changed.

[Dr. Doctor]

LanceSolous13 wrote...

I'm honestly surprised there isn't a
cure to Joker's Vrolik's Syndrome by now. Or, maybe there is but its
far too expensive and time consuming at the time?

Scumbag Shepard: Purchases upgrade that makes bones unbreakable, doesn't tell Joker.

jtav wrote...

So how do you think Miranda would cope with a romanced Shepard who survived, but lost some functionality? Stipulate that it's permanent.

Considering that Miranda doesn't like taking "impossible" for an answer I'd imagine that she'd try to figure out some way to fix the issue.

If we were talking about a universe where the Reapers were destroyed then I'd imagine that whatever cybernetics were used in Lazarus would have suffered damage in the blast from the Crucible. Restoring full functionality would be possible if the resources required to conduct repairs hadn't been destroyed in the war.

[LanceSolous13]

True, but we don't know to what extent things are obliterated by the Crucible. The way the Catalyst makes the distruction of Syntehtics out to be, it sounds like we'd be hitting the Stone Age again what with the "You use Synthetics in daily life. Could you really live without them?" thing, but the ships are fully intact at the end and all that's ruined in parts of the Citadel, the Relays, and the Geth/EDI.

[hot_heart]

Hadn't seen this before. I like.

[LanceSolous13]

I've been thinking. Those sleave things. What if they had been extended into a jacket or something? Or, hell, I sort of wonder what she might look like in an ankle length trench coat?

Could have some symbolic bit to it. ME2, She's pro Cerberus (the white in her suit) but has some doubts (the black sleaves), and by her Loyalty Mission, the Pro-Cerberus is getting overshadowed.

By ME3, with a black coat, She's completely anti-Cerberus.

[fiendishchicken]

jtav wrote...

So how do you think Miranda would cope with a romanced Shepard who survived, but lost some functionality? Stipulate that it's permanent.

She brought him back Shepard back from the dead, and that's about as impossible to fix as it gets. She'd find a way to make it unpermanent (yes unpermanent), no matter what it is. 

My favorite aspect of Miranda's character: NOTHING is impossible to her. 

edit* my you really love to add melodramatic themes to your Shepard. 

Modifié par fiendishchicken, 04 juillet 2012 - 11:53 .

[giftfish]

Attention Miranda fans!

As a result of the popularity of the Romance DLC thread and polls on BSN and HTL, folks over at HTL have combined all the suggestions and made a new, more in depth survey. 

It will only take 5 minutes of your time, unless you like to make comments, and we hope to get even more responses than on the BSN polls.

Results will be analyzed, summarized into a report, and sent to Bioware.

If you want to be heard on this issue, this is the best way to do it!

Please take the survey and spread the word!!

[fiendishchicken]

LanceSolous13 wrote...

I've been thinking. Those sleave things. What if they had been extended into a jacket or something? Or, hell, I sort of wonder what she might look like in an ankle length trench coat?

Could have some symbolic bit to it. ME2, She's pro Cerberus (the white in her suit) but has some doubts (the black sleaves), and by her Loyalty Mission, the Pro-Cerberus is getting overshadowed.

By ME3, with a black coat, She's completely anti-Cerberus.

Sorry, ankle length trench coat (Unless its so cold that a sign reading "gone south for the winter" is located where your testaces should be) is a bad idea imo...

And as for the uniform design, I think it's a standard issue uniform concept for Cerberus, that Miranda chooses to... exploit, in her own way.

[MisterJB]

MASSEFFECTfanforlife101 wrote...

No. Miri is no Villain. Please stop. She can't be. I don't want her to be. She is no Terrorist. You are all so damn twisted. You all like evil so ****ing much, it's sickening. What about the GOOD in Miri? HUH???? Do you all throw that away like trash? You all need to stop focusing on the negative things in Miri's past. She doesn't work for them anymore. She isn't evil!

I'm not well already. And this is just making it worse. She was Cerberus, she supported those experiments. But she saw TIM true colors in the End. He when too far and he went against what she believed in. She quits.


Would she still support those experiments afterwards? OMG I'm so confused now. v_v

"I believe what Cerberus stands for." I thought she was fooled like the rest of the Normandy crew in ME2.

You know what, I'm just going to come out and say what everyone else is thinking. 
This is not the place for you.

I'm sorry, but it's the truth. I realize this will probrably have you run around in the middle of the street in your smallcloths but it's obvious that soft words just don't work with you. It has become increasingly obvious that you are not a fan of Miranda. Instead, you like this ideal of Miranda as an angel of purity that can do no wrong and that is just not who she is. For the good of humanity, Miranda is willing to flat out torture and traumatize an innocent quarian, get this into your head. That is part of who Miranda is, it's part of what makes her interesting.
Miranda is a grey character and that is how she should remain.

For the sake of your mental health, I advise you to try romancing a different character. Maybe Tali, she fits more into your ideal. Quite frankly, I can't even imagine what made you a fan of Miranda in the first place. Maybe Yvonne Strahovsky, I don't know.
If so, be a fan of Yvonne Strahovsky but also be capable of diferentiating between the actress and her roles.

Modifié par MisterJB, 05 juillet 2012 - 12:16 .

[fiendishchicken]

MisterJB wrote...

For the sake of your mental health, I advise you to try romancing a different character. Maybe Tali, she fits more into your ideal. Quite frankly, I can't even imagine what made you a fan of Miranda in the first place. Maybe Yvonne Strahovsky, I don't know.
If so, be a fan of Yvonne Strahovsky but also be capable of diferentiating between the actress and her roles.

^ THIS 1000x

Although, telling this guy to be a fan of Strahovski instead is... not the smartest given his past and his mental health.

It will end up like the movie 'Misery'

Plus, Strahovski already has enough creepy stalkers who live across the country from her..... 

[Td1984]

giftfish wrote...

Attention Miranda fans!

As a result of the popularity of the Romance DLC thread and polls on BSN and HTL, folks over at HTL have combined all the suggestions and made a new, more in depth survey. 

It will only take 5 minutes of your time, unless you like to make comments, and we hope to get even more responses than on the BSN polls.

Results will be analyzed, summarized into a report, and sent to Bioware.

If you want to be heard on this issue, this is the best way to do it!

Please take the survey and spread the word!!

Done.

[flemm]

MASSEFFECTfanforlife101 wrote...

Wait...that can't be right. Miri couldn't have been a Villain. She couldn't have been involved in such things. No.

*sigh*

Well, if you read what was actually being said, you would note that we were saying basically the opposite of what you are saying we were saying.

But... whatever. Carry on

[fiendishchicken]

LanceSolous13 wrote...

...When did she sleep with TIM? I no want cross-polination with that dude...

And, She didn't shoot Conrad. I did that myself!

A lot of people (mostly detractors) have theorized that Miri at one time had a sexual relationship with TIM. I personally don't see it. I think Miri would lose respect for TIM if he was only interested in banging her, and I think TIM did genuinely enjoy Miranda's skills and devotion to Cerberus. It was more of a mentorship role with Miranda being groomed to take his place at the head of Cerbrus one day, and though I doubt TIM was the ideal father figure in Miranda's life, he had enough professional and personal respect for her that she would be incredibly loyal to him. That said, I think Shepard was the one who really opened her eyes to galaxy and got her thinking about more than just the Cerberus way, while She in return opened his eyes to Cerberus and had him seeing what the galaxy looked like without the alliance or council putting their lens in front of his eyes, and being 'good' isn't necessarily being right.