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[o Ventus]

LanceSolous13 wrote...

I'm unfamilear with the Eva Core backstory, but who says he didn't try to?

And, the Citadel remained (mostly) intact after a High EMS Distroy, so I think we're meant to assume Shepard was found on the Citadel, not Earth. He's still in good enough condition to be breathing, at least. Considering his Pre-Distroy condition, This is a good thing.

Well, if he tried too, she would almost certainly be alive still. As a general rule, things are far easier the more often you do them. This applies to Lazarus as well. If he kept any data, all he would have to do is get another team of doctors and have Miranda head the cell again.

When I said reentry, I was talking about when he was spaced in ME2. He fell down to Alchera through atmosphere. Realistically, I wouldn't be too hopeful of the breath scene. The shock and trauma of Harbinger's blast alone ('cause lasers asplode now, amirite?) should have broken a lot of his bones, plus getting shot by Marauder shields in the shoulder would cause him to lose a lot of blood (Incidentally enough, the shoulder is one of the worst palces to get shot because of the blood loss). Take those 2 things, plus the console explosion as Shepard so brilliantly walked TOWARDS it, plus the Citadel presumably losing power (The lights on the wards shut off and the Citadel turns grey and black) it shouldn't be generating any kinetic barriers to keep the vacuum out.

Realistically speaking, Shepard should be the deadest person in the history of dead people, but I know Bioware doesn't have the testicular fortitude to end the story like that. Plus it would be hypocritical of me to oppose any chance of him surviving, since I already have a story set after his survival.

[LanceSolous13]

Or maybe he tried to bring Eva Core back before Shepard, failed miserably but knew how to fix things? As I said, I'm unfamilear with the Eva Core backstory thing.

[o Ventus]

LanceSolous13 wrote...

Or maybe he tried to bring Eva Core back before Shepard, failed miserably but knew how to fix things? As I said, I'm unfamilear with the Eva Core backstory thing.

He didn't. Now that I think about it, I dont think he could have. Eva died before Cerberus was founded, much longer than Shepard has been dead for.

Eva was basically TIM's old girlfriend, before he founded Cerberus. They were both mercenaries and fought in the FCW. Saren's brother captured their merc band and TIM was zapped by a Reaper monolith (persumably how he became indoctrinated, and is the reason his eyes look they way they do). The monolith turned the 3rd member of their merc band (Ben Hislop) into a husk and Eva dies after fighting husk-Ben and Ben slamming her head into a wall.

It's in the Evolution comics.

[Ieldra]

jtav wrote...

MACharlie1 wrote...
By current day standards and definition, Miranda is DEFINITELY a terrorist.

So what, if anything, should happen to her post-war?

Nothing of course. Without Project Lazarus, the galaxy would be Reaperized. That has to count for something. She wouldn't let herself be caught anyway, even if the Alliance hadn't conveniently overlooked her not-by-the-book anti-Cerberus operations in ME3 and given their tacit pardon. I guess there would be the usual witch-hunts by politicians seeking a higher profile, but I can see such attempts backfire in an epic way if her role in Shepard's survival becomes public knowledge.

[Ieldra]

Dr. Doctor wrote...

CrutchCricket wrote...
ooh can we assign other roles?

Let's see...

jtav's the resident chronicler (fanfic writer) who never runs out of hoops to make the characters jump into.
MisterJB may just be the guy I disagree with most of the time:bandit:
Ieldra2 is the wise old one (the name actually means Elder apparently)
flemm's the voice of reason
Vertigo is our dataminer/informant
Dr Doctor is our dialogue specialist
Asakawa's our most prominent artist
yesika's in charge of most Miranda related social movements

...Together we fight crime?

We fight the storytelling crimes committed against MIranda in ME3! I don't think we'll run out of work soon.

[ThomGau]

Ieldra2 wrote...

jtav wrote...

MACharlie1 wrote...
By current day standards and definition, Miranda is DEFINITELY a terrorist.

So what, if anything, should happen to her post-war?

Nothing of course. Without Project Lazarus, the galaxy would be Reaperized. That has to count for something. She wouldn't let herself be caught anyway, even if the Alliance hadn't conveniently overlooked her not-by-the-book anti-Cerberus operations in ME3 and given their tacit pardon. I guess there would be the usual witch-hunts by politicians seeking a higher profile, but I can see such attempts backfire in an epic way if her role in Shepard's survival becomes public knowledge.

 Agreed, nothing too dramatic would happen to her, the destroy and synthesis epilogue slides can confirm that. She wouldn't be working with the Alliance on rebuilding Earth if she were hunted down because of her past with Cerberus.
 Of course some bad intentioned people, witch hunters, would probably try to take her down in order to bury Cerberus and its ideas once and for all.
 Nonetheless I think most of the high-ranked Alliance Officers (Hackett for example) would agree on closing their eyes on her past with Cerberus. Also if Shepard is alive, I don't think it would be a good idea for the public opinion to mess with him with such petty conflicts. As he defeated the Reaper threat, his voice speaks louder than the Alliance's.
  Given what she has done with the Lazarus Project, without her, the galaxy would be a lot more messy. And there're also her heroic act at Sanctuary and the help she provided during the final battle on Earth. She'd deserve a medal.

Modifié par ThomGau, 05 juillet 2012 - 11:00 .

[Jebel Krong]

flemm wrote...

CrutchCricket wrote...
And are never seen again.

That's because nobody knows the location of Miranda's Secret Base...

except all the techs who installed all the monitors... 

[o Ventus]

Jebel Krong wrote...

flemm wrote...

CrutchCricket wrote...
And are never seen again.

That's because nobody knows the location of Miranda's Secret Base...

except all the techs who installed all the monitors... 

Miranda and Oriana could very well have installed those monitors.

Or it could be Sanctuary.

[Ieldra]

Jebel Krong wrote...

flemm wrote...

CrutchCricket wrote...
And are never seen again.

That's because nobody knows the location of Miranda's Secret Base...

except all the techs who installed all the monitors... 

You mean before they moved the base elsewhere? In the ME universe, I would never build a base that wasn't mobile. Like Cronos Station, only somewhat smaller. For now at least.

Modifié par Ieldra2, 05 juillet 2012 - 12:15 .

[lillitheris]

o Ventus wrote...

Jebel Krong wrote...

flemm wrote...

CrutchCricket wrote...
And are never seen again.

That's because nobody knows the location of Miranda's Secret Base...

except all the techs who installed all the monitors... 

Miranda and Oriana could very well have installed those monitors.

…But…they’re girls…?

[o Ventus]

lillitheris wrote...

…But…they’re girls…?

So?

[fiendishchicken]

MASSEFFECTfanforlife101 wrote...

If Miranda Lawson wasn't her real name, this would remind me of Chuck. Sarah Walker's name wasn't really Sarah Walker. Did BiOWare ever watch Chuck? There are Similarities between Miri and Sarah.

I can list some similarities:

- Both have killed in the Past.

- Both have a "Not so happy" Past, in a sense.

- They work in an Organization.

- They can both be ruthless.

- Both were cold at first, but both started warming up later on in the Story.

- They can fight.

- Both are Beautiful.

Anyone have anymore?

Of course they had seen Chuck. That's just stupid. Otherwise, how would they have gotten Yvonne? They wouldn't have known, or cared who she was (not that they haven't proven the latter with her character time and again.)

[lillitheris]

o Ventus wrote...

lillitheris wrote...

…But…they’re girls…?

So?

So, um, they’re good at detecting sarcasm?

[CrutchCricket]

o Ventus wrote...
OT: I noticed earlier that some titles were being bestowed to a couple people. What am I?

Right! Ventus... formerly known as Agitated Lemon... and you had another account too if I remember correctly.

I think that makes you... the Spy! Master of disguise, sometimes hits people with razor-sharp retorts when they're not looking...

You're gonna sap my post aren't you?

[CrutchCricket]

Ieldra2 wrote...
Nothing of course. Without Project Lazarus, the galaxy would be Reaperized.

Don't understand this one. Unless you're referring to Control or Synthesis where Reapers are still around and people have bigger things to worry about...

[o Ventus]

CrutchCricket wrote...

o Ventus wrote...
OT: I noticed earlier that some titles were being bestowed to a couple people. What am I?

Right! Ventus... formerly known as Agitated Lemon... and you had another account too if I remember correctly.

I think that makes you... the Spy! Master of disguise, sometimes hits people with razor-sharp retorts when they're not looking...

You're gonna sap my post aren't you?

No, I'm going to sap your sentry.

And if I'm feeling up for it, your mother.

[o Ventus]

CrutchCricket wrote...

Ieldra2 wrote...
Nothing of course. Without Project Lazarus, the galaxy would be Reaperized.

Don't understand this one. Unless you're referring to Control or Synthesis where Reapers are still around and people have bigger things to worry about...

I think he meant that without Lazarus, Shepard would be dead and everybody would be Reaper snacks.

[CrutchCricket]

Derp.

Oh and I'm not the Scout. So none of that!

Modifié par CrutchCricket, 05 juillet 2012 - 02:31 .

[o Ventus]

Since the discussion has shifted over to TF2 classes then... Which would Miranda most likely be? The most obvious choice is probably Spy. What traits from other classes does she carry?

[CrutchCricket]

o Ventus wrote...

Since the discussion has shifted over to TF2 classes then... Which would Miranda most likely be? The most obvious choice is probably Spy. What traits from other classes does she carry?

Sniper- Australian ****iness
Medic: Not sure if doctor or just really good at weird unorthodox medical proceedures.

Modifié par CrutchCricket, 05 juillet 2012 - 02:50 .

[o Ventus]

*Shepard is sitting in front of a computer, Miranda walks by*

M: Looks fun. What are you playing, Shepard?

S: Just an old 21st century game. Team Fortress 2. I'm sniping right now, I need to concentrate.

M: Ahh. Well, enjoy yourself. *begins to walk away*

S: Wait, Miranda, can you do me a favor really fast?

M: Maybe. What is it?

S: Say "Boom, headshot".

[clennon8]

enayasoul wrote...

kaymarierose wrote...

clennon8 wrote...

 I'm just going to leave this here.  It's an ME3 post-ending flashfic. Miranda searches for Shepard.

*Snip*

I liked it, well done.

Enjoyed reading this as well.  Thank you! :happy:

Glad the two of you liked it!  

[jtav]

Yeah, very good, clen.

[enayasoul]

o Ventus wrote...

LanceSolous13 wrote...

I'm unfamilear with the Eva Core backstory, but who says he didn't try to?

And, the Citadel remained (mostly) intact after a High EMS Distroy, so I think we're meant to assume Shepard was found on the Citadel, not Earth. He's still in good enough condition to be breathing, at least. Considering his Pre-Distroy condition, This is a good thing.

Well, if he tried too, she would almost certainly be alive still. As a general rule, things are far easier the more often you do them. This applies to Lazarus as well. If he kept any data, all he would have to do is get another team of doctors and have Miranda head the cell again.

When I said reentry, I was talking about when he was spaced in ME2. He fell down to Alchera through atmosphere. Realistically, I wouldn't be too hopeful of the breath scene. The shock and trauma of Harbinger's blast alone ('cause lasers asplode now, amirite?) should have broken a lot of his bones, plus getting shot by Marauder shields in the shoulder would cause him to lose a lot of blood (Incidentally enough, the shoulder is one of the worst palces to get shot because of the blood loss). Take those 2 things, plus the console explosion as Shepard so brilliantly walked TOWARDS it, plus the Citadel presumably losing power (The lights on the wards shut off and the Citadel turns grey and black) it shouldn't be generating any kinetic barriers to keep the vacuum out.

Realistically speaking, Shepard should be the deadest person in the history of dead people, but I know Bioware doesn't have the testicular fortitude to end the story like that. Plus it would be hypocritical of me to oppose any chance of him surviving, since I already have a story set after his survival.

Not to be a stickler on the details but I think Shepard was shot in his side not shoulder.  When he is sitting down talking to Anderson the blood is seeping out at his abdomen.  He has some pretty nasty burns on his arms.  His armor is melted and hopefully protected him from being totally burnt underneath.

From the looks of the photo of the citadel it looks like there are lights on the farther away you are from the blast zone.  Shepard was somewhere on those rings, I thought.  Hard to pinpoint where but looking at how that one part is destroyed could have been where it exploded.  The obvious blue fake sky is gone?  Or is it?  I'd like to believe with all the upgrade he would be swimming in med-gel from the weaves he got but if they were synthetic in nature, his skin on his arm looked like it could be pealed off?  Yikes.  He looks to be under rubble, maybe where there is still pressurized mass effect fields?  :happy: Hard tell. Left up to our imaginations... we could just about say anything.

In the same picture of the citadel, it kind of looks like the normandy on the left side with asari ship and two fighter ships.  Gives me hope they'd find him.   Maybe Miranda's fighters class type ships on the right?

Modifié par enayasoul, 05 juillet 2012 - 04:19 .

[o Ventus]

enayasoul wrote...

o Ventus wrote...

LanceSolous13 wrote...

I'm unfamilear with the Eva Core backstory, but who says he didn't try to?

And, the Citadel remained (mostly) intact after a High EMS Distroy, so I think we're meant to assume Shepard was found on the Citadel, not Earth. He's still in good enough condition to be breathing, at least. Considering his Pre-Distroy condition, This is a good thing.

Well, if he tried too, she would almost certainly be alive still. As a general rule, things are far easier the more often you do them. This applies to Lazarus as well. If he kept any data, all he would have to do is get another team of doctors and have Miranda head the cell again.

When I said reentry, I was talking about when he was spaced in ME2. He fell down to Alchera through atmosphere. Realistically, I wouldn't be too hopeful of the breath scene. The shock and trauma of Harbinger's blast alone ('cause lasers asplode now, amirite?) should have broken a lot of his bones, plus getting shot by Marauder shields in the shoulder would cause him to lose a lot of blood (Incidentally enough, the shoulder is one of the worst palces to get shot because of the blood loss). Take those 2 things, plus the console explosion as Shepard so brilliantly walked TOWARDS it, plus the Citadel presumably losing power (The lights on the wards shut off and the Citadel turns grey and black) it shouldn't be generating any kinetic barriers to keep the vacuum out.

Realistically speaking, Shepard should be the deadest person in the history of dead people, but I know Bioware doesn't have the testicular fortitude to end the story like that. Plus it would be hypocritical of me to oppose any chance of him surviving, since I already have a story set after his survival.

Not to be a stickler on the details but I think Shepard was shot in his side not shoulder.  When he is sitting down talking to Anderson the blood is seeping out at his abdomen.  He has some pretty nasty burns on his arms.  His armor is melted and hopefully protected him from being totally burnt underneath.

From the looks of the photo of the citadel it looks like there are lights on the farther away you are from the blast zone.  Shepard was somewhere on those rings, I thought.  Hard to pinpoint where but looking at how that one part is destroyed could have been where it exploded.  The obvious blue fake sky is gone?  Or is it?  I'd like to believe with all the upgrade he would be swimming in med-gel from the weaves he got but if they were synthetic in nature, his skin on his arm looked like it could be pealed off?  Yikes.  He looks to be under rubble, maybe where there is still pressurized mass effect fields?  :happy: Hard tell. Left up to our imaginations... we could just about say anything.

In the same picture of the citadel, it kind of looks like the normandy on the left side with asari ship and two fighter ships.  Gives me hope they'd find him.   Maybe Miranda's fighters class type ships on the right?

Marauder Shields shot him in his right shoulder. He throws his shoulder back after being shot, and you can see blood spurting out. When Anderson dies, he puts his hand down to to the left side of his abdomen. It's inconsistent.

Shepard was at the top of the presidium tower (Around where Sovereign docked in ME1).

I severely, SEVERELY doubt the Citadel still has working ME fields and kinetic barriers. Shepard blew up one of the Citadel's power conduits and one of the arms snapped off into pieces. During the 1st slide showing the Citadel, it's grey and monochrome, giving the appearance of being "deactivated" (for lack of a better term), or turned off, implying a power loss.

I know Shepard is basically Jesus in space, but now it's starting to stretch my disbelief.

As for his armor melting, there's only 2 layers of "hard" armor. The plating and the mesh suit. I'm not taking barriers into account because they don't protect against heat. Melting through the hard plates would burn into the mesh suit and into his skin. 

I wouldn't point to the 2nd picture of the Citadel as hard evidence toward either side. There are some spots of illumination, but that could also very well be the sun reflecting from the metallic surface.

Modifié par o Ventus, 05 juillet 2012 - 04:33 .