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[fiendishchicken]

wright1978 wrote...

jtav wrote...

I'm not interested in a romance DLC. I want Miranda's characterization fixed. I don't want to see more romance content; I merely partner with those who do out of necessity.

Yep story content is much more important to me. If there's a sprinkling of LI content within that then great.

I want it both ways.

[CrutchCricket]

jtav wrote...

I'm not interested in a romance DLC. I want Miranda's characterization fixed. I don't want to see more romance content; I merely partner with those who do out of necessity.

That's going too far.

Characterization is important sure, but you'd actually turn down more romance content?

I have to disagree with this on principle.

[fiendishchicken]

CrutchCricket wrote...

jtav wrote...

I'm not interested in a romance DLC. I want Miranda's characterization fixed. I don't want to see more romance content; I merely partner with those who do out of necessity.

That's going too far.

Characterization is important sure, but you'd actually turn down more romance content?

I have to disagree with this on principle.

agreed. 

[MASSEFFECTfanforlife101]

Would Miri be the the type of woman who would dress in "Certain" Outfits for "Certain" *Ahem* Nights in bed, if you know what I mean?

*Imagines Miri is some Catwoman Outfit*

[Dr. Doctor]

Thane's role wasn't bad, but a Shepard who romanced him doesn't have any special lines and immediately seems to forget about him. The same thing happens if Shepard romanced Miranda and lost her, if she dies there's a line where Shepard remarks "Miranda was something special, I'm trying to remember if I ever told her that."

Taking back Omega would be a pretty good place to have Jack or Miranda come back. The station's pretty much the capital of he Terminus so taking it away from Cerberus would help the Allies in the war. In the event that Yvonne isn't available to VA I wouldn't mind having a detachment from her commando unit come to help Shepard.

[fiendishchicken]

MASSEFFECTfanforlife101 wrote...

Would Miri be the the type of woman who would dress in "Certain" Outfits for "Certain" *Ahem* Nights in bed, if you know what I mean?

*Imagines Miri is some Catwoman Outfit*

not catwoman, but yes. She definitely has a sexy lingerie and negligee collection if her subscription to after dark fashions is any indication

[hot_heart]

I don't want to sound like one of those haters, because I guess it's nice that people care, but I don't even get what 'romance content' is supposed to be. Not that cheesy lap-sitting or hugging-on-the-bed stuff, I hope. Maybe more 'dates'? I just don't see the value in it.

The only thing you could reasonably expect would just be missions that involve some of the other characters and perhaps a few lines that would acknowledge an existing romance. I think that's what everyone here thinks anyway, right?

[MASSEFFECTfanforlife101]

fiendishchicken wrote...

MASSEFFECTfanforlife101 wrote...

Would Miri be the the type of woman who would dress in "Certain" Outfits for "Certain" *Ahem* Nights in bed, if you know what I mean?

*Imagines Miri is some Catwoman Outfit*

not catwoman, but yes. She definitely has a sexy lingerie and negligee collection if her subscription to after dark fashions is any indication

Hehe yeah.:innocent:

[jtav]

hot_heart: that's fine by me. But an actual romance-centric DLC? No thanks. I don't want it. Romance is becoming the tail that wags the dog, to the point that I'd welcome removal just to restore sanity. My favorite characters are Miranda and Traynor. I think their romances are rather poor (a few nice bits in ME3 for Miranda excepted). By contrast, I adore Kaidan's romance, but rarely think of him outside that. So where does that leave me?

[Stalker]

hot_heart wrote...

I don't want to sound like one of those haters, because I guess it's nice that people care, but I don't even get what 'romance content' is supposed to be. Not that cheesy lap-sitting or hugging-on-the-bed stuff, I hope. Maybe more 'dates'? I just don't see the value in it.

The only thing you could reasonably expect would just be missions that involve some of the other characters and perhaps a few lines that would acknowledge an existing romance. I think that's what everyone here thinks anyway, right?

Well, the DLC would likely be playing after Sanctuary and therefore before Cronos. So I would expect a "I love you", "please come back", or a goodbye-kiss... in addition to a few extra lines during the mission itself.
Like a extended LotSB... a rather important mission with additional romance content during and at the end of the mission.

Modifié par Mr Massakka, 08 juillet 2012 - 08:31 .

[Dr. Doctor]

hot_heart wrote...

I don't want to sound like one of those haters, because I guess it's nice that people care, but I don't even get what 'romance content' is supposed to be. Not that cheesy lap-sitting or hugging-on-the-bed stuff, I hope. Maybe more 'dates'? I just don't see the value in it.

The only thing you could reasonably expect would just be missions that involve some of the other characters and perhaps a few lines that would acknowledge an existing romance. I think that's what everyone here thinks anyway, right?

I don't really have an issue with the romance content. I want lines where Miranda talks about Cerberus and what it's become, I want to see her having an actual impact with the war effort not her obsessing over her stupid plot device of a sister. 

[flemm]

CrutchCricket wrote...
That's going too far.

Characterization is important sure, but you'd actually turn down more romance content?

I have to disagree with this on principle.

Where the Miranda romance is concerned, one more significant scene/conversation is important/necessary imo. It's a story like any other, and it needs appropriate payoff/closure.

Not that this is breaking news to anyone, but I think two things need to happen for this to be complete:
1) Miranda needs to do something Cerberus-related that is significant and contributes to the war effort against the Reapers
2) The romance needs better payoff/closure.

In reality, we should also see, or the story should somehow imply, how Miranda's victory over her father affects her life/allows her character to grow. But... that could potentially be handled as part of #1 and/or #2 above.

[hot_heart]

jtav wrote...
hot_heart: that's fine by me. But an actual romance-centric DLC? No thanks. I don't want it. Romance is becoming the tail that wags the dog, to the point that I'd welcome removal just to restore sanity.

That's very close to my sentiment, and a good way of putting it.

Though, I'm only really going off a particular section of forum activity; which may not be truly representative. I mean, it might only be half the forum going on about it.

...the other half is people still moaning about the endings.

CrutchCricket wrote...
Characterization is important sure, but you'd actually turn down more romance content?

I have to disagree with this on principle.

I don't think any of us would turn down more romance content but, if we're prioritising things, we don't want the character defined by a romance. If that makes sense.

Modifié par hot_heart, 08 juillet 2012 - 08:44 .

[flemm]

A scene that provides closure to the romance doesn't necessarily have to be only focused on the romance. If it happens after Sanctuary, it could include Miranda reflecting on what her experience on Sanctuary meant to her (for example), which is something that is sorely lacking.

That could involve Cerberus *and* her father/her genetic tailoring, as far as topics covered.

Then you add a few romance-specific lines, etc. Whatever it takes to get a scene like that is worth it, whether it's part of a "romance DLC" or not.

Modifié par flemm, 08 juillet 2012 - 08:47 .

[o Ventus]

CrutchCricket wrote...

jtav wrote...

I'm not interested in a romance DLC. I want Miranda's characterization fixed. I don't want to see more romance content; I merely partner with those who do out of necessity.

That's going too far.

Characterization is important sure, but you'd actually turn down more romance content?

I have to disagree with this on principle.

Romance brings characterization with it. The two aren't mutually exclusive, like most people seem to think.

[LanceSolous13]

Yeah...I'd be slightly...off put by Miri and Jack being the only two ME2 LIs getting aditional content. Aditionally, I'm a Thanemancer-Drell-licker. So, I really would appreceate some Thane content.

Also, Fem!Shep really doesn't have any romance choices. Kaidan can be killed twice, leaving only Samantha, and Liara for Fem!Shep. I would sort of like maybe James Vega being upgraded to LI for the sake of aditional romances for Fem!Shep.

[Caihn]

A DLC with Miranda should also fix her romance.

It needs at least one more conversation just after the apartment scene and a scene between Sanctuary and the last mission (a real romance scene on the Normandy would be great).

[o Ventus]

Yannkee wrote...

A DLC with Miranda should also fix her romance.

It needs at least one more conversation just after the apartment scene and a scene between Sanctuary and the last mission (a real romance scene on the Normandy would be great).

Agreed.

[LanceSolous13]

Yannkee wrote...

A DLC with Miranda should also fix her romance.

It needs at least one more conversation just after the apartment scene and a scene between Sanctuary and the last mission (a real romance scene on the Normandy would be great).

Definatly. I'd love for it to have as much detail and care put into it as Liara's did.

[hot_heart]

flemm wrote...

A scene that provides closure to the romance doesn't necessarily have to be only focused on the romance. If it happens after Sanctuary, it could include Miranda reflecting on what her experience on Sanctuary meant to her (for example), which is something that is sorely lacking.

That could involve Cerberus *and* her father/her genetic tailoring, as far as topics covered.

Then you add a few romance-specific lines, etc. Whatever it takes to get a scene like that is worth it, whether it's part of a "romance DLC" or not.

A fair point and a very good idea.

Though I doubt a lot of other people are thinking quite so deeply about it; at least that's the impression I get. But, you know, as long as Miranda is along for the ride...

[CrutchCricket]

o Ventus wrote...
Romance brings characterization with it. The two aren't mutually exclusive, like most people seem to think.

Agreed. Why anyone would exclude one from the other is quite beyond me.

Here's how it breaks down:
More Miranda content= always good
More Miranda romance content= always better.

However there is specific characterization (namely the acknowledgement/growth of her "professional" side) that must also be addressed, regardless of quantity of content.

[o Ventus]

CrutchCricket wrote...

o Ventus wrote...
Romance brings characterization with it. The two aren't mutually exclusive, like most people seem to think.

Agreed. Why anyone would exclude one from the other is quite beyond me.

Here's how it breaks down:
More Miranda content= always good
More Miranda romance content= always better.

However there is specific characterization (namely the acknowledgement/growth of her "professional" side) that must also be addressed, regardless of quantity of content.

Which can be addressed in a romance DLC.

[flemm]

hot_heart wrote...
Though I doubt a lot of other people are thinking quite so deeply about it; at least that's the impression I get.

Story of my life

Just kidding

[hot_heart]

CrutchCricket wrote...

o Ventus wrote...
Romance brings characterization with it. The two aren't mutually exclusive, like most people seem to think.

Agreed. Why anyone would exclude one from the other is quite beyond me.

Only jtav made that sort of comment, and even then it wasn't wholly serious. Or at least it was her special blend of melodrama. Sorry, jtav, you know we love you.

[MASSEFFECTfanforlife101]

I want to be able to say at the End, "Miranda, what ever happens, I'll always Love you...."