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[Babi_Siha]

Taboo-XX wrote...

Babi_Siha wrote...

Though there is nothing more that I would love than seing Walters and Hudson sidelined from ME3 DLC I just can't see it happening. As long as ME3 is selling, EA is happy and the company isn't known to change its ways to please fans, so they'll stay and finish the job of screwing up the franchise.

Bioware is looking for a new lead writer for Mass Effect.

The DLC will probably be left to the other writers.

Such as Weekes.

But Hudson will always be involved.

Weekes leading the DLC is the only thing that gives me hope. Sad about Hudson though. If he just screwed up and admitted his mistake I wouldn't despise him and many fans wouldn't either, however his attitude towards the fans is what pisses me off the most. Hudson acts like he's some big genius who came up with a complex ending and we're too dumb to understand them and you know who's not dumb? Those people who were bought off to give the game a perfect score.

JeffZero wrote...

Michael Gamble is now our official target. We must make him aware that
there is a light at the end of the tunnel... so long as he's willing to
go the distance. Not for us. But for himself.

He said he stayed loyal to Miranda and I took this opportunity to tweet him, never got a reply though. Still, tweeting him and Weekes from time to time reminding them about Miranda couldn't hurt.

[Taboo]

I think Bioware is very aware of the sidelining of the ME2 characters.

My Shepard is lonely for 97% of the game.

I could really go for a picture on my desk in the captains quarters.

Modifié par Taboo-XX, 19 juillet 2012 - 04:32 .

[JeffZero]

Hmm. So, Michael Gamble is a Miri-mancer and he's been the producer of the series' DLC, which has played host to many of my favorite missions overall.

I feel like Mr. Gamble ought to be spearheading the next Mass Effect title. He's fast becoming the Manny Coto hero I've been looking for. (Once again, I think flemm will understand that joke.)

[Taboo]

I don't think bringing up that version of Star Trek is a good idea.

I don't even watch television and I know who he is.

[fiendishchicken]

I also remember BW's response to the Miranda posters. They probably got thrown in the garbage bin after opening them. It sucks because I know a lot of you guys worked really hard on those.

[JeffZero]

Taboo-XX wrote...

I don't think bringing up that version of Star Trek is a good idea.

I don't even watch television and I know who he is.

Damn, you're good.

[JeffZero]

fiendishchicken wrote...

I also remember BW's response to the Miranda posters. They probably got thrown in the garbage bin after opening them. It sucks because I know a lot of you guys worked really hard on those.

Geez.

[Taboo]

fiendishchicken wrote...

I also remember BW's response to the Miranda posters. They probably got thrown in the garbage bin after opening them. It sucks because I know a lot of you guys worked really hard on those.

Unlikely. They still had them after people asked for them.

That was days after they arrived.

[MASSEFFECTfanforlife101]

The Jackmancers have a Paragon interrupt that results in them kissing jack. Now why couldn't we have something like that for Miranda? Oh yeah, BioWare mixed it all up and gave the "Kiss" the Death Scenario!" <_<

Modifié par MASSEFFECTfanforlife101, 19 juillet 2012 - 04:40 .

[Taboo]

MASSEFFECTfanforlife101 wrote...

The Jackmancers have a Paragon interrupt that results in them kissing jack. Now why couldn't we have something like that for Miranda? Oh yeah, BioWare mixed it all up and gave the "Kiss" the Death Scenario!" <_<

Well you technically got kissed on the cheek when you continue the relationship.

I haven't seen the video of her dying and I don't ever plan on watching it. Ever.

[MASSEFFECTfanforlife101]

Taboo-XX wrote...

MASSEFFECTfanforlife101 wrote...

The Jackmancers have a Paragon interrupt that results in them kissing jack. Now why couldn't we have something like that for Miranda? Oh yeah, BioWare mixed it all up and gave the "Kiss" the Death Scenario!" <_<

Well you technically got kissed on the cheek when you continue the relationship.

I haven't seen the video of her dying and I don't ever plan on watching it. Ever.

I know I know, and I liked the peck. But I would've wanted this as well:

Shepard: Be careful.

Miranda: No Promises

*Miranda starts walking away*

*Paragon Interrupt*

Shepard: Wait a minute. *Gently holding Miranda's arm to stop her*

*Miranda turns towards him*

Shepard: You were the only  person in my mind when I was locked up. I missed you. And you feel the same way about me. We haven't seen each other for 6 long months. I think we both owe each other this much.

*Shepards gently pulls Miranda forward, and they kiss, slowly and passionately*


PS: I saw the Romance Death Scene on YouTube. It traumatized me to Tears all night, and I think the next day as well. And this was before it was my turn to hit Sacntuary. I do NOT want to see ANY OTHER Video involving Miri's Death. ONE WAS ENOUGH!

Modifié par MASSEFFECTfanforlife101, 19 juillet 2012 - 04:51 .

[Taboo]

Public displays of affection aren't really her thing.

She talks about her conversation with TIM if you talk to her. That was interesting.

I'd imagine he tried to sow seeds of discontent in her head.

One of the first things she asks is about the relationship. Oddly enough her responses echoes her now dismissed fears.

Being told that I had received a message from her was the first time I smiled in the game actually.

[MASSEFFECTfanforlife101]

Taboo-XX wrote...

Public displays of affection aren't really her thing.

Hence the "Paragon Interrupt" for crying out loud. And 6 months is long time.

And I don't think she'd care about kissing in Public. If that was that case she would have wanted us to hold her hands.

Modifié par MASSEFFECTfanforlife101, 19 juillet 2012 - 04:55 .

[Taboo]

MASSEFFECTfanforlife101 wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...

Public displays of affection aren't really her thing.

Hence the "Paragon Interrupt" for crying out loud. And 6 months is long time.

And I don't think she'd care about kissing in Public. If that was that case she would have wanted us to hold her hands.

Understand that people who suffer from emotional abuse don't like to be touched.

I'd imagine Shepard is the only one she lets touch her.

It isn't that she doesn't want to, it's that she's still having issues.

[spirosz]

MASSEFFECTfanforlife101 wrote...

The Jackmancers have a Paragon interrupt that results in them kissing jack. Now why couldn't we have something like that for Miranda? Oh yeah, BioWare mixed it all up and gave the "Kiss" the Death Scenario!" <_<

Jack's more feisty!!! 

I think that's how you spell what I'm trying to say 

Modifié par spiros9110, 19 juillet 2012 - 04:58 .

[Lawrence0294]

Something that really makes me upset are the logs in Cronos. When TIM says that your team and Cerberus in ME2 was just a facade. It's like they really wanted us to understand that in no way could there be good people in Cerberus. It has to be evil and in no way ethically gray. Don't even get me started on Shepard doubting if he is real or not. It could work if he didn't romance Miranda but if he does, it's an insult to her

[ENorman94]

fiendishchicken wrote...

I also remember BW's response to the Miranda posters. They probably got thrown in the garbage bin after opening them. It sucks because I know a lot of you guys worked really hard on those.

What was their response?

[Ieldra]

CEO Fun Buttons wrote...

jtav wrote...
Because the tail is wagging the dog. I don't object to more romance content per se, but I do object to the notion that her not putting the nameplate up was somehow a middle finger. She got content specific to herself that suggests the very traits that made her worth romancing in the first place. The person at the memorial gets no such moment. Beyond that, I'd prefer resources be used for general characterization and worldbuilding. I would not buy a romance DLC.

When I first played through the EC, I didn't really mind all that much to be honest. I was bummed that they didn't incorporate her any more than they did, but I felt that overall it did a good job. I didn't get mad about it until they specifically said that that scene was supposed to be handled by your LI.

It just shows a complete disregard for a large portion of your fanbase, it's not like they somehow forgot that a rather large portion of the romanceable characters weren't on the ship. They simply didn't care, and that willingness to alienate any number of fans that had poured so much time and money into the series just irked me.

I agree with jtav here. Miranda and the other non-team LIs now have the flashback and really nice slides. The team member LIs have the flashback and the memorial wall scene but no slides. If I can't have both, I vastly prefer the former. Also, in this case plausibility has to count for something. How the hell could Miranda have been there at that time and place?

[wright1978]

kratos0294 wrote...

Something that really makes me upset are the logs in Cronos. When TIM says that your team and Cerberus in ME2 was just a facade. It's like they really wanted us to understand that in no way could there be good people in Cerberus. It has to be evil and in no way ethically gray. Don't even get me started on Shepard doubting if he is real or not. It could work if he didn't romance Miranda but if he does, it's an insult to her

Yep it really annoys me. My annoyance is further increased in that i can't avoid it. I'm forced to watch a sequence that makes Shep out to be a brain dead moron who didn't listen to what Jacob tole him in the previous game and didn't talk to his girfriend. It's on a par in sheer awfulness with those moronic dream sequences.

[wright1978]

CEO Fun Buttons wrote...

jtav wrote...
Because the tail is wagging the dog. I don't object to more romance content per se, but I do object to the notion that her not putting the nameplate up was somehow a middle finger. She got content specific to herself that suggests the very traits that made her worth romancing in the first place. The person at the memorial gets no such moment. Beyond that, I'd prefer resources be used for general characterization and worldbuilding. I would not buy a romance DLC.

When I first played through the EC, I didn't really mind all that much to be honest. I was bummed that they didn't incorporate her any more than they did, but I felt that overall it did a good job. I didn't get mad about it until they specifically said that that scene was supposed to be handled by your LI.

It just shows a complete disregard for a large portion of your fanbase, it's not like they somehow forgot that a rather large portion of the romanceable characters weren't on the ship. They simply didn't care, and that willingness to alienate any number of fans that had poured so much time and money into the series just irked me.

My issue isn't with Miranda not putting the nameplate up. A rather generic slide if you have a Me2 LI is rather poor yet maybe understandable thing. No difference in the slide in the High EMS shep lives ending is inexcusbale in my opinion. Basically they put no effort into putting together the epilogue for this ending and it clearly shows. That has me extremely irate.

[Ieldra]

Babi_Siha wrote...
Though there is nothing more that I would love than seing Walters and Hudson sidelined from ME3 DLC I just can't see it happening. As long as ME3 is selling, EA is happy and the company isn't known to change its ways to please fans, so they'll stay and finish the job of screwing up the franchise.

You know, now that it's all simmering down, I'd like the opportunity to ask those two some questions. Not in a hostile way, no, just to clarify things. Because above all, I'm still confused about how they didn't see the sh*tstorm coming and about what they thought the fans would be thinking - or should be thinking. What was their vision of the ending, and why did they think it was good? Or did they? I'd rather like an explanation for this utterly confusing mystery.

[fiendishchicken]

wright1978 wrote...

CEO Fun Buttons wrote...

jtav wrote...
Because the tail is wagging the dog. I don't object to more romance content per se, but I do object to the notion that her not putting the nameplate up was somehow a middle finger. She got content specific to herself that suggests the very traits that made her worth romancing in the first place. The person at the memorial gets no such moment. Beyond that, I'd prefer resources be used for general characterization and worldbuilding. I would not buy a romance DLC.

When I first played through the EC, I didn't really mind all that much to be honest. I was bummed that they didn't incorporate her any more than they did, but I felt that overall it did a good job. I didn't get mad about it until they specifically said that that scene was supposed to be handled by your LI.

It just shows a complete disregard for a large portion of your fanbase, it's not like they somehow forgot that a rather large portion of the romanceable characters weren't on the ship. They simply didn't care, and that willingness to alienate any number of fans that had poured so much time and money into the series just irked me.

My issue isn't with Miranda not putting the nameplate up. A rather generic slide if you have a Me2 LI is rather poor yet maybe understandable thing. No difference in the slide in the High EMS shep lives ending is inexcusbale in my opinion. Basically they put no effort into putting together the epilogue for this ending and it clearly shows. That has me extremely irate.

 agreed. I feel as though nearly 3 months of my time were wasted waiting for the EC.

[fiendishchicken]

Ieldra2 wrote...

Babi_Siha wrote...
Though there is nothing more that I would love than seing Walters and Hudson sidelined from ME3 DLC I just can't see it happening. As long as ME3 is selling, EA is happy and the company isn't known to change its ways to please fans, so they'll stay and finish the job of screwing up the franchise.

You know, now that it's all simmering down, I'd like the opportunity to ask those two some questions. Not in a hostile way, no, just to clarify things. Because above all, I'm still confused about how they didn't see the sh*tstorm coming and about what they thought the fans would be thinking - or should be thinking. What was their vision of the ending, and why did they think it was good? Or did they? I'd rather like an explanation for this utterly confusing mystery.

Same here, but those two have already proven that they are utterly incapable of seeing the reasoning behind such statements. Doesn't matter how you'd phrase it, Walters would clam up and Hudson would believe you criticizing him and he would go off and be like, "what do you know, our game has over 40 perfect reviews." 

And we'd get something like, "We eanted the fans to enjoy the journey, because the ending is just an ending, blah blah. We wanted fans to decide how their story ends." IMO there should not have been a final choice for the game, or restructure it heavily. Have all the decisions and choices you've made throughout the trilogy count for something. Right down to the freaking Lorik Qui'in glitch on Noveria.

Modifié par fiendishchicken, 19 juillet 2012 - 12:05 .

[fiendishchicken]

ENorman94 wrote...

fiendishchicken wrote...

I also remember BW's response to the Miranda posters. They probably got thrown in the garbage bin after opening them. It sucks because I know a lot of you guys worked really hard on those.

What was their response?

A rather distinct lack of one at the Edmonton office. They never said anything about the posters when they arrived, and when they were tweeted about them, they were like, "yeah, we got them. real pretty. bye" The bastards didn't even post a photo or anything at least looking like they cared. "Real pretty" probably means latrine paper in Ware-speak.

[Cashmoney007]

I would rather have Miranda on my crew than Vega. I felt he was a waste and didn't even take him on many missions. They should have let us add Miranda to our crew after we helped her, But maybe they will in a dlc(haha).

Modifié par Cashmoney007, 19 juillet 2012 - 12:39 .