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[ChrisRudson]

Dr. Doctor wrote...

Kai Leng: Hold on, this isn't one of those "he doesn't love me so I'm going to intentionally get myself killed" sort of things is it? 'Cause that's just stupid, I'm an assassin not some trashy romance novel plot device.

[flemm]

Funny stuff, Doc

[SpectresHonour]

fiendishchicken wrote...

SpectresHonour wrote...
That said, what would be a plausible reason for Miri to rejoin the Normandy? And what would her reaction be to Cerberus turing bad?

Hard to say for the first part. The alliance stooges aboard the Normandy would question her every motive, that's for sure. I have for my fic. Some of them even do some digging on Miranda later in the story behind Shepard's back, and report their findings to the alliance. I even have Ashley survive as she uses Spectre autority to put Miranda behind bars briefly. Shepard of course goes ape**** mind you. He has a very tenuous relationship with the alliance at best, really only working for them because Cerberus have proven to be the bad guys due to indoctrination. If you can't tell, I utterly detest the alliance and the council, and while I don't always agree with Cerberus' shady methods, they are the only ones willing to get the job done from the beginning and they stood behind Shepard when no one else would. I still don't completely trust them either, but imo, TIM had a plan, and it nearly succeeded and would have succeeded had he not been indoctrinated. It wouldn't have been my favored outcome, but nonetheless it would have worked. And my Shepard shows this distrust towards Cerberus a lot, especially in ME2. I don't have a huge problem with Hackett, and minus maybe Anderson (who stabbed Shepard in the back in ME2), Hackett is the only person my Shepard has any respect left for in the alliance.

Ok, end rant.

Her reaction would be one of anger and disbelief, much as my Shepard is. She'll comment that Cerberus is no longer the same organization it was a year or so ago, and that now the Illusive Man's methods have stopped being useful and now degrade humanity by there existence. She also questions whether or not TIm was always like this, and she wonders that if he was, how was she so blind to not see it. It kind of leads to an existential crisis of sorts, though she still strongly believes in Cerberus original goals in advancing humanity, and she concludes later that due to Reaper influence, TIM was twisted and corrupted into following a perverted mockery of his former goals and was glad TIM was able to see it on the Citadel long enough to take himself out of the equation so Shepard could do his job.

I'll definately use some of the 'question her every move thing' at the start, but my X (Shep) is a pro-Alliance paragon soldier, having grown up with the military. Thinks of Aderson as a surrogate father and respects Hackett. And he only worked with Cerberus during 2 because they were the only one's doing anything about the threat to humanity (but he got pissed off at TIM for using him and happily gave him the finger at the end of it) He didn't expect to fall for Miri, as he was hurting after Ash's rejection, but he did and eventually she did too.

He also knows that his relationship with Miri isn't going to be easy because of him being a proud Alliance soldier.

So can anyone else think of something?

[flemm]

SpectresHonour wrote...
So can anyone else think of something?

Well, I'd say your two points are linked, really. Miranda is repelled by what TIM has allowed Cerberus to become, so she wants to devote her energies to defeating them, while at the same time working toward defeating the Reapers, which is one of things she was trying to accomplish with Cerberus all along. Right now the Normandy is the best place to be for that.

She's useful as a source of intelligence, as a strategist/consultant and as a combattant. She has some Alliance contacts of her own. Some of the Alliance crew wouldn't trust her, but hackett and no doubt others would see the benefit of having her around. So, as long as your Shepard trusts her, that's reason enough, I think.

Modifié par flemm, 23 juillet 2012 - 07:11 .

[wright1978]

flemm wrote...

SpectresHonour wrote...
So can anyone else think of something?

Well, I'd say your two points are linked, really. Miranda is repelled by what TIM has allowed Cerberus to become, so she wants to devote her energies to defeating them, while at the same time working toward defeating the Reapers, which is one of things she was trying to accomplish with Cerberus all along. Right now the Normandy is the best place to be for that.

She's useful as a source of intelligence, as a strategist/consultant and as a combattant. She has some Alliance contacts of her own. Some of the Alliance crew wouldn't trust her, but hackett and no doubt others would see the benefit of having her around. So, as long as your Shepard trusts her, that's reason enough, I think.

Yep this.
Also Alliance crew seem oddly ok with having a cerberus AI in control of their ship.

Modifié par wright1978, 23 juillet 2012 - 07:44 .

[SpectresHonour]

flemm wrote...

SpectresHonour wrote...
So can anyone else think of something?

Well, I'd say your two points are linked, really. Miranda is repelled by what TIM has allowed Cerberus to become, so she wants to devote her energies to defeating them, while at the same time working toward defeating the Reapers, which is one of things she was trying to accomplish with Cerberus all along. Right now the Normandy is the best place to be for that.

She's useful as a source of intelligence, as a strategist/consultant and as a combattant. She has some Alliance contacts of her own. Some of the Alliance crew wouldn't trust her, but hackett and no doubt others would see the benefit of having her around. So, as long as your Shepard trusts her, that's reason enough, I think.

That's what I'll go with then.

Thanks for the input!

Also is there anyone here willing to be a beta for me, to make sure I don't stray from the ME2 Miri path? I've already got a beta who covers grammer and stuff, but she doesnt know the game verse side of things.

[LanceSolous13]

It depends on how long it'll be and what kind of time frame you'd like feedback. I'd be interested but I have my own fic and I've got a busy week ahead of me.

[SpectresHonour]

LanceSolous13 wrote...

It depends on how long it'll be and what kind of time frame you'd like feedback. I'd be interested but I have my own fic and I've got a busy week ahead of me.

The Miranda Chronicles is made up of short stories, roughly 8 to 10 pages each (sometimes less, sometimes more) But don't worry I don't have anythng yet, I'm just in the process of re-writing X and Miri's reunion to go with my new AU storyline.

[fiendishchicken]

SpectresHonour wrote...

flemm wrote...

SpectresHonour wrote...
So can anyone else think of something?

Well, I'd say your two points are linked, really. Miranda is repelled by what TIM has allowed Cerberus to become, so she wants to devote her energies to defeating them, while at the same time working toward defeating the Reapers, which is one of things she was trying to accomplish with Cerberus all along. Right now the Normandy is the best place to be for that.

She's useful as a source of intelligence, as a strategist/consultant and as a combattant. She has some Alliance contacts of her own. Some of the Alliance crew wouldn't trust her, but hackett and no doubt others would see the benefit of having her around. So, as long as your Shepard trusts her, that's reason enough, I think.

That's what I'll go with then.

Thanks for the input!

Also is there anyone here willing to be a beta for me, to make sure I don't stray from the ME2 Miri path? I've already got a beta who covers grammer and stuff, but she doesnt know the game verse side of things.

I'll beta for you, but I'll be bashing his oafish alliance tendencies constantly. That and for a lot of the stuff you'd need, that's up to your individual Shepard. For example Ish, the Salarian you meet on Omega who knows Miranda and Jacob from a prior mission. I always tell Anto about him and Ish conveniently disappears permanently. But I know the lore well enough, and if I'm not sure, Mass Effect wiki and the BSN are only a quick away.

Modifié par fiendishchicken, 23 juillet 2012 - 02:13 .

[Skullheart]

I remember their lies about being able to RP with a Shepard not being so happy about being back in the Alliance.

[fiendishchicken]

Skullheart wrote...

I remember their lies about being able to RP with a Shepard not being so happy about being back in the Alliance.

Full goody goody characters... I shudder at their mere existence. And now to tell you why Cerberus deserves a chance from an alliancemancer.

 I think Shepard is more of a full compassionate guy. He thinks the galaxy is deep down a decent enough place to live. The Reapers challenge that opinion. He's the guy who saw that he couldn't save everyone, but he could avenge them. If 90% of the galaxy had to die to stop the reapers, he'd make that call without hesitation. And thus, he's a very end's-justify-the-means kind of guy. He's also a big believer in equality and fairness and every being working  together to make things better. If humanity must be wiped out so the Turians and Salarians can live, so be it. He's perfectly fine sacrificing Earth so that the rest of the galaxy can prepare for the Reapers. Despite what it sounds like, he won't sacrifice his principle's either, but his principles are a little bit more broad; unless it's outright degrading humanity or the rest of the galaxy, Shepard's ok with it. And this rarely happens. Only 3 times did this occur; The Collector base, the genophage cure, and final end decision. The alliance is a lot like Cerberus (Hell an argument could be made that Cerberus is the underhanded belly to the alliance. Many high ranking officials and military officers are Cerberus sympathizers and benefactors. Until ME3, I was sure Hackett had even uses the services of Cerberus on occasion.) They only look out for human interests really.But Cerberus is actually a lot more honest about it. They pretty much tell you that human advancement is their goal. To be honest I never
got one iota of a racist tendency from TIM. Sure the guys a maniac, but in the end, provided you convince him to Saren himself, or even if you shoot him, you see that he always wanted to protect humanity. That was his only real goal. 

The alliance and the council denied Shepard 3 times when he gave them hard, empirical evidence of the Reapers. Cerberus decided based on theoretical evidence alone that the Reapers in fact did exist and were targeting the galaxy and had a fascination for humanity specifically, and that something had to be done to stop them. You can be damn certain where Shepard told the council where to shove it when they offered him
Spectre status again.

On Horizon, Shepard fights to save the colonists from the Collectors, is assembling a team of the smartest,
toughest, and deadliest minds and bodies in the galaxy to fight them, and is once more trying to convince everyone to get ready for the Reapers. And the VS calls him a traitor to everything he stood for
all because he's not playing on his/her team. If the VS represents the best of the alliance values, and even if your Shepard strongly believes in those values, the mere fact alone that representing those values alone without the alliance and then being called a traitor for it would be a very... jading experience. Then finding out Anderson
was behind it because he didn't trust Shepard simply because he was working for Cerberus? 

And this is just the tip of the iceberg for me.

Modifié par fiendishchicken, 23 juillet 2012 - 03:00 .

[Ieldra]

I hear you, fiendishchicken. And that's why smart people like Miranda or Brynn Cole joined Cerberus and stayed with them for years. It's bad enough when the people in charge treat you like sh*t, but if you see those people have about half your IQ it gets outright insulting.

[Taboo]

Ieldra2 wrote...

I hear you, fiendishchicken. And that's why smart people like Miranda or Brynn Cole joined Cerberus and stayed with them for years. It's bad enough when the people in charge treat you like sh*t, but if you see those people have about half your IQ it gets outright insulting.

This reminds me of the man who told me to clean at attic that could have possibly been infected with Hantavirus. He didn't tell me this either.

I should find that commercial for you...

Modifié par Taboo-XX, 23 juillet 2012 - 03:57 .

[CrutchCricket]

fiendishchicken wrote...
Sorry for the rant there, This one was my fault. I just got off a thread defending Cerberus from some of the self-righteous bastards who stick alliance dick in their throats and guzzle till they **** out rainbows.

But that doesn't stop my Shepard from distrusting Anderson or Hackett. There's an amount of respect there, but Shepard feels that if they were truly as dedicated as he was, they would have shut up and done what he did and go rogue if they had to to stop the reapers. And coming from a difference of perspectives as well as taking an artistic change for fiction writing, I see Hackett and Anderson as not believing in the Reapers either until they're vaporizing people in the streets. Then and only then does the alliance and the council decide that they might have been slightly mistaken on the subject of the existence of giant robotic cuttlefish that have a boner for wiping out organic life.

In my post ending fic, Hackett even tries to take bring Shepard under control by arresting Miranda and having her charged with terrorism. He does this so that Shepard can see that Miranda is a dangerous influence on Shepard and is subtley trying to draw him away from the alliance. He's basically like "Shepard, she's a menace. I'm doing this for your own good." He gets Ashley to make the arrest, and this involves the coveted Miranda vs Ashley fight, and Shepard and Ashley finally have the talk about why Shepard hates the alliance and why he's done with Ashley (who up until then had completely refused to see the point that Sheaprd is no longer interested with her.) I'll probably have Shepard kill Ashley when she tries to stop him from releasing Miranda. 

I'm sorry but I am utterly anti-alliance. Hell, I think I'd rather see the Reapers win than have the alliance get the credit.

Yes, let's talk about how trustworthy the Illusive Man is...

Not everyone can just go "**** the system". Some people need to stay behind and work with it. Again, at the end of Arrival Hackett says he'll buy you as much time as he can. How could he have done that if he stripped off his uniform, and flipped the Alliance the bird while putting on an "I love Shepard" T-Shirt?

And really, you're doubting they believed in Reapers? Right, so just about everyone in the galaxy flat out dismisses the claim to his face, but Anderson and Hackett take the time to lie about it and go along with it? When they would otherwise have the most reason to just tell him to STFU about the Reapers? Please.

You're too caught up in hating on the Alliance and it's blinding you. Personally I think Shepard should be independent in ME3. Yes the galaxy is at stake but this is his fight. For better or worse he was chosen to lead the charge against the Reapers. Everyone should shut up and work for him. But of course, its not a perfect world and there's plenty of ****ing. Fine, he'll need to manipulate them to achieve his goals. But he needs people on the inside for that to work. And the Alliance has its uses.

I think a much more interesting storyline could've been made if that had been the focus. Using Anderson and Hackett to steer the Alliance, having Cerberus not go off the deep end and having Miranda on the inside there (a much more dangerous game as TIM is wise to this sort of thing), personally moving the Council into mobilizing the rest of the races etc. How much more satisfying would it have been if you were the mastermind gathering the forces of the galaxy to clash against the Reapers, instead of being an errand boy asking everyone to work on your science project, the Thing We Don't Know What It Does?

[wright1978]

Skullheart wrote...

I remember their lies about being able to RP with a Shepard not being so happy about being back in the Alliance.

Yeah i remember seeing the crew roster and finding it worrying that there wasn't a figure such as Miranda who could represent the Anti-alliance(grugingly working with them for Shep's sake) stance similar to the way there were several anti-cerberus squaddies in ME2. However i was foolish enough to be taken in by Casey's statements and carried on believing that at least i would be able to carry on portraying the Anti-alliance sentiments my shep had expressed in ME2. Unfortunately the best i coulddo was mitigate the awfulness of their railroaded lovefest for the shower of idiots that is the alliance

Modifié par wright1978, 23 juillet 2012 - 05:51 .

[fiendishchicken]

CrutchCricket wrote...

fiendishchicken wrote...
Sorry for the rant there, This one was my fault. I just got off a thread defending Cerberus from some of the self-righteous bastards who stick alliance dick in their throats and guzzle till they **** out rainbows.

But that doesn't stop my Shepard from distrusting Anderson or Hackett. There's an amount of respect there, but Shepard feels that if they were truly as dedicated as he was, they would have shut up and done what he did and go rogue if they had to to stop the reapers. And coming from a difference of perspectives as well as taking an artistic change for fiction writing, I see Hackett and Anderson as not believing in the Reapers either until they're vaporizing people in the streets. Then and only then does the alliance and the council decide that they might have been slightly mistaken on the subject of the existence of giant robotic cuttlefish that have a boner for wiping out organic life.

In my post ending fic, Hackett even tries to take bring Shepard under control by arresting Miranda and having her charged with terrorism. He does this so that Shepard can see that Miranda is a dangerous influence on Shepard and is subtley trying to draw him away from the alliance. He's basically like "Shepard, she's a menace. I'm doing this for your own good." He gets Ashley to make the arrest, and this involves the coveted Miranda vs Ashley fight, and Shepard and Ashley finally have the talk about why Shepard hates the alliance and why he's done with Ashley (who up until then had completely refused to see the point that Sheaprd is no longer interested with her.) I'll probably have Shepard kill Ashley when she tries to stop him from releasing Miranda. 

I'm sorry but I am utterly anti-alliance. Hell, I think I'd rather see the Reapers win than have the alliance get the credit.

Yes, let's talk about how trustworthy the Illusive Man is...

Not everyone can just go "**** the system". Some people need to stay behind and work with it. Again, at the end of Arrival Hackett says he'll buy you as much time as he can. How could he have done that if he stripped off his uniform, and flipped the Alliance the bird while putting on an "I love Shepard" T-Shirt?

And really, you're doubting they believed in Reapers? Right, so just about everyone in the galaxy flat out dismisses the claim to his face, but Anderson and Hackett take the time to lie about it and go along with it? When they would otherwise have the most reason to just tell him to STFU about the Reapers? Please.

You're too caught up in hating on the Alliance and it's blinding you. Personally I think Shepard should be independent in ME3. Yes the galaxy is at stake but this is his fight. For better or worse he was chosen to lead the charge against the Reapers. Everyone should shut up and work for him. But of course, its not a perfect world and there's plenty of ****ing. Fine, he'll need to manipulate them to achieve his goals. But he needs people on the inside for that to work. And the Alliance has its uses.

I think a much more interesting storyline could've been made if that had been the focus. Using Anderson and Hackett to steer the Alliance, having Cerberus not go off the deep end and having Miranda on the inside there (a much more dangerous game as TIM is wise to this sort of thing), personally moving the Council into mobilizing the rest of the races etc. How much more satisfying would it have been if you were the mastermind gathering the forces of the galaxy to clash against the Reapers, instead of being an errand boy asking everyone to work on your science project, the Thing We Don't Know What It Does?

I fully agree that TIM is untrustworthy. But he's the only one, until ME3, putting any effort into stopping the Reapers.

I don't like Hackett or Anderson because they're out to make Shepard the alliance golden boy, and my Shepard is only a hairsbreadth from going completely rogue. They represent the alliance a little too strongly for me. Guilt by association? Maybe. But at the end of the day, Shepard is of the opinion that the alliance is no better than Cerberus and with them being members, they are not to be trusted. 

And my Shepard wanted a war with the Batarians. It would have mobilized the alliance for war, as well as put the council and races on edge. The Turians would increase patrol fleets, the STG would be in full swing, the Asari would be... looking pretty idk, I have utterly no respect left for the Asari minus the Justicars, and in general the galaxy would be on edge, jumpy, nervous, and ready for a fight. And I say this not because it's fact that it would happen, but it's what happens everyday in the real world. Just look at Syria. We won't get militarily involved, but there has been a nearly 40% increase in Naval patrols in the Mediterranean and Persian Gulf and our Air bases in Turkey and Saudi Arabia are on edge. 

That would have been infinitely better than deus ex machina, but the way I see, ME3 showed just how ****ed up the galaxy is. The Reapers forced everyone's hand, but when it mattered most, only a few were willing to stand by allies when they got thrashed. The Asari, so renowned for their advancement, diplomacy, and grace, hid a beacon on Thessia with critical information on the Reapers, and refused to tell anyone else about it until their homeworld was to be destroyed. The blue ****es got what they deserved, and to my Shepard, it was the only time he was glad to see the Reapers. The Asari who were around since the dawn of the modern galactic civilization also refused to support anyone in the war because they didn't like the Krogan, and believed themselves above the threat. And when the Turians called for a war summit and asked for help with Palaven? The Asari, who got their asses saved by the Turians in the Krogan Rebellions did nothing to help. Only letting them put their refugee's on the citadel. The Turians, The Krogan, even the Batarians stood by humanity. But the Asari thought it wasn't going to work so they chose to ignore the threat. And the Salarians, whose upset Dalatrass nearly let the galaxy burn because she didn't trust the Krogan. They're just as bad. The Quarians decided that the end of civilization as they know it was the perfect time to instigate a war with the Geth so they could have their revenge before the Reapers came. Sheer stupidity. 

And as for the Council? Greedy power grubbers only interested in their own species, putting up unfair laws and regulations to keep their species at the top, instead of working together with other species to advance everyone in the galaxy.

Modifié par fiendishchicken, 23 juillet 2012 - 05:00 .

[Taboo]

Actually, if Mass Effect has shown anything, it's that it's leaders are usually fairly incompetent.

Which is oddly pressing in the real world as well...

The libertarian element are neither left nor right either, which is amusing.

Which makes the Hegel-inspired Synthesis even more confusing.

[fiendishchicken]

Taboo-XX wrote...

Actually, if Mass Effect has shown anything, it's that it's leaders are usually fairly incompetent.

Which is oddly pressing in the real world as well...

The libertarian element are neither left nor right either, which is amusing.

Which makes the Hegel-inspired Synthesis even more confusing.

Well let's get back to Miranda. I have to work in 3 hours and I'd like to get some talk of her back in.

[Dr. Doctor]

Getting dragged in by the Alliance would have been neat if there were anything related to it in the game. IE, have the Alliance tribunal going over what happened in ME1 and 2 to reestablish Shepard's character and the story so far sort of like the start to ME1. I really don't care that much about saving Earth because:

A) We're only physically on the planet for the first 20 minutes and last hour of the game
The parts where we are on Earth aren't interesting or memorable.

[Taboo]

Well...I'll be pulling her out of Sanctuary here soon.

What would she say to Oriana once she figures out about her and Shepard?

[CrutchCricket]

fiendishchicken wrote...
I fully agree that TIM is untrustworthy. But he's the only one, until ME3, putting any effort into stopping the Reapers.

That's a black mark for everyone else, not a good mark for him.

I don't like Hackett or Anderson because they're out to make Shepard the alliance golden boy, and my Shepard is only a hairsbreadth from going completely rogue. They represent the alliance a little too strongly for me. Guilt by association? Maybe. But at the end of the day, Shepard is of the opinion that the alliance is no better than Cerberus and with them being members, they are not to be trusted.

Whatever, not everyone in the Alliance is a drooling idiot anymore than everyone in Cerberus is a complete monster. Hackett and Anderson are the good guys even if they're surrounded by morons. Like I said, not everyone can "stick it to the man"

And my Shepard wanted a war with the Batarians. It would have mobilized the alliance for war, as well as put the council and races on edge. The Turians would increase patrol fleets, the STG would be in full swing, the Asari would be... looking pretty idk, I have utterly no respect left for the Asari minus the Justicars, and in general the galaxy would be on edge, jumpy, nervous, and ready for a fight. And I say this not because it's fact that it would happen, but it's what happens everyday in the real world. Just look at Syria. We won't get militarily involved, but there has been a nearly 40% increase in Naval patrols in the Mediterranean and Persian Gulf and our Air bases in Turkey and Saudi Arabia are on edge.

You're ****ing with me, right? A war with the batarians is about as useful as the quarians fighting the geth. Care to tally how much resources that dumb****ery lost us? Never mind the heightened alert of the other races, when the Reapers arrive they beeline it straight for Earth. How long do you really think we would've lasted if we had spent the last six months throwing ourselves at the Batarians?

The galaxy may be full of stupid leaders but thankfully Shepard's not one of them.

[fiendishchicken]

CrutchCricket wrote...

fiendishchicken wrote...
I fully agree that TIM is untrustworthy. But he's the only one, until ME3, putting any effort into stopping the Reapers.

That's a black mark for everyone else, not a good mark for him.

I don't like Hackett or Anderson because they're out to make Shepard the alliance golden boy, and my Shepard is only a hairsbreadth from going completely rogue. They represent the alliance a little too strongly for me. Guilt by association? Maybe. But at the end of the day, Shepard is of the opinion that the alliance is no better than Cerberus and with them being members, they are not to be trusted.

Whatever, not everyone in the Alliance is a drooling idiot anymore than everyone in Cerberus is a complete monster. Hackett and Anderson are the good guys even if they're surrounded by morons. Like I said, not everyone can "stick it to the man"

And my Shepard wanted a war with the Batarians. It would have mobilized the alliance for war, as well as put the council and races on edge. The Turians would increase patrol fleets, the STG would be in full swing, the Asari would be... looking pretty idk, I have utterly no respect left for the Asari minus the Justicars, and in general the galaxy would be on edge, jumpy, nervous, and ready for a fight. And I say this not because it's fact that it would happen, but it's what happens everyday in the real world. Just look at Syria. We won't get militarily involved, but there has been a nearly 40% increase in Naval patrols in the Mediterranean and Persian Gulf and our Air bases in Turkey and Saudi Arabia are on edge.

You're ****ing with me, right? A war with the batarians is about as useful as the quarians fighting the geth. Care to tally how much resources that dumb****ery lost us? Never mind the heightened alert of the other races, when the Reapers arrive they beeline it straight for Earth. How long do you really think we would've lasted if we had spent the last six months throwing ourselves at the Batarians?

The galaxy may be full of stupid leaders but thankfully Shepard's not one of them.

We would've lasted about as long as we did, which wasn't very long. 

A large portion of the alliance navy was at Earth. The Reapers smashed through those defences in a matter of minutes, taking Earth completely in a matter of hours. 

All that six months without war would have bought us was maybe an hour at most. And if the Reapers are smart, they'd have set up an interdiction fleet to prevent fleeing refugee's and stragglers from using the Mass Relay. It wouldn't have made a difference for us at Earth. The Reapers were dead set on taking Earth and there was no way we could stop them. But with our fleets engaged somewhere else, we could have withdrawn easier keeping a larger portion of our fleets intact and ready to fight. 

Modifié par fiendishchicken, 23 juillet 2012 - 06:05 .

[flemm]

CrutchCricket wrote...
That's a black mark for everyone else, not a good mark for him.

Wait, what?

That's an odd way of thinking about it imo. How is it not a good mark for him?


This is not recent, but it's a favorite of mine:



http://cheeseboy1819...et=144#/d2ixxze

[CrutchCricket]

fiendishchicken wrote...
We would've lasted about as long as we did, which wasn't very long. 

A large portion of the alliance navy was at Earth. The Reapers smashed through those defences in a matter of minutes, taking Earth completely in a matter of hours.

Have you taken into account Anderson's resistance and how they held out while Shepard was off doing fetch quests? Or Sword?

There is nothing more important than stopping the Reapers, preparing before they come and fighting them when they're here. If you so much as throw a punch at anyone else without cause, you're an idiot.

[hot_heart]

flemm wrote...
This is not recent, but it's a favorite of mine:

http://cheeseboy1819...et=144#/d2ixxze

It's because of the extra cleavage, isn't it?