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[CrutchCricket]

flemm wrote...
Wait, what?

That's an odd way of thinking about it imo. How is it not a good mark for him?

Why should he get special credit for doing something everyone should already be doing? See above.

[fiendishchicken]

CrutchCricket wrote...

flemm wrote...
Wait, what?

That's an odd way of thinking about it imo. How is it not a good mark for him?

Why should he get special credit for doing something everyone should already be doing? See above.

He's not getting special credit. But he's the only one getting any credit at all. 

[CrutchCricket]

I don't see why. If you do what you're supposed to, everything's normal.

Being the smartest man in a room full of idiots is no great achievement.

[flemm]

hot_heart wrote...

flemm wrote...
This is not recent, but it's a favorite of mine:

http://cheeseboy1819...et=144#/d2ixxze

It's because of the extra cleavage, isn't it?

Well, you know me. ****** and Ass, that's all I care about

[fiendishchicken]

CrutchCricket wrote...

fiendishchicken wrote...
We would've lasted about as long as we did, which wasn't very long. 

A large portion of the alliance navy was at Earth. The Reapers smashed through those defences in a matter of minutes, taking Earth completely in a matter of hours.

Have you taken into account Anderson's resistance and how they held out while Shepard was off doing fetch quests? Or Sword?

There is nothing more important than stopping the Reapers, preparing before they come and fighting them when they're here. If you so much as throw a punch at anyone else without cause, you're an idiot.

Anderson's resistance was just that. A resistance against the Reaper occupiers that had complete control of Earth. And there was nothing that they could have done against a Reaper itself, minus using a nuke. And Sword was a conglomeration of all the species, not just the alliance or batarians. 

As for preparing for the Reapers, the only group doing that was Cerberus, and maybe the token amount of Turian forces Garrus got. Starting a fire gets all the other fire departments everywhere on edge, and that much more ready for the giant wildfire thats over the hill, even if you're too busy fighting the smaller fire.

[fiendishchicken]

CrutchCricket wrote...

I don't see why. If you do what you're supposed to, everything's normal.

Being the smartest man in a room full of idiots is no great achievement.

But he's recognized as the only one with any common sense or general intelligence. Something strongly lacking in the galaxy. He gets props for that.

[flemm]

CrutchCricket wrote...

I don't see why. If you do what you're supposed to, everything's normal.

Meh. Fighting the Reapers isn't like... jury duty or something, where you're just doing what's expected of you as a citizen.

It's above and beyond what a single individual might be expected to do. Obviously, this applies to some other characters. But I don't think that Cerberus' work to stop the Reapers can be written off so easily.

That would be like saying, well, human beings are destroying the planet and soon it will be inhospitable to human life, and everybody should be doing something about that. But the ones who are don't deserve any credit. Overcoming inertia and confronting a crisis in advance is laudable and not something that most people are willing to do.

Modifié par flemm, 23 juillet 2012 - 06:25 .

[CrutchCricket]

fiendishchicken wrote...

Anderson's resistance was just that. A resistance against the Reaper occupiers that had complete control of Earth. And there was nothing that they could have done against a Reaper itself, minus using a nuke. And Sword was a conglomeration of all the species, not just the alliance or batarians.

They saved lives, lives that could've been lost against bull**** attacks or Reaper processing. Anderson himself might've died in this pointless war and as a result Shepard might never have gotten out of his cell, to say nothing of how the resistance would've fared without him had we even gotten that far. Same goes for Hackett

As for preparing for the Reapers, the only group doing that was Cerberus, and maybe the token amount of Turian forces Garrus got. Starting a fire gets all the other fire departments everywhere on edge, and that much more ready for the giant wildfire thats over the hill, even if you're too busy fighting the smaller fire.

All well and good except you don't just put on your firefighting gear, you waste precious resources putting out the fire. And then get roflstomped by pyros. Great plan...<_<

[CrutchCricket]

flemm wrote...
Meh. Fighting the Reapers isn't like... jury duty or something, where you're just doing what's expected of you as a citizen.

It's above and beyond what a single individual might be expected to do. Obviously, this applies to some other characters. But I don't think that Cerberus' work to stop the Reapers can be written off so easily.

That would be like saying, well, human beings are destroying the planet and soon it will be inhospitable to human life, and everybody should be doing something about that. But the ones who are don't deserve any credit. Overcoming inertia and confronting a crisis in advance is laudable and not something that most people are willing to do.

You fight or you die. Sounds a bit more serious then jury duty.

And that environmental analogy doesn't apply. We're not talking eventual unpredictable effects. We're talking immediate annihilation.


In the face of immediate annihilation you either help or get the **** out of the way. So yes, it's not just "fight the Reapers".  It's fight or GTFO (and hide).

[flemm]

CrutchCricket wrote...

You fight or you die. Sounds a bit more serious then jury duty.

Well, yeah... But... that's the point

I think the environmental analogy is basically sound (assuming, for the sake of argument, that it is a serious threat) because human nature tends to want to write certain things off as paranoia and not confront difficult realities until it is too late and the threat is in their face and can no longer be ignored. Preferring inertia to preventative action.

So, if an individual or organisation takes the lead in confronting the crisis, before the reality of the threat has become obvious to everyone, that is a laudable action (or, possibly an overreaction, depending on how you evaluate the situation). But, in the case of the Reapers, it was laudable because the threat was real.

Modifié par flemm, 23 juillet 2012 - 06:34 .

[fiendishchicken]

CrutchCricket wrote...

fiendishchicken wrote...

Anderson's resistance was just that. A resistance against the Reaper occupiers that had complete control of Earth. And there was nothing that they could have done against a Reaper itself, minus using a nuke. And Sword was a conglomeration of all the species, not just the alliance or batarians.

They saved lives, lives that could've been lost against bull**** attacks or Reaper processing. Anderson himself might've died in this pointless war and as a result Shepard might never have gotten out of his cell, to say nothing of how the resistance would've fared without him had we even gotten that far. Same goes for Hackett

As for preparing for the Reapers, the only group doing that was Cerberus, and maybe the token amount of Turian forces Garrus got. Starting a fire gets all the other fire departments everywhere on edge, and that much more ready for the giant wildfire thats over the hill, even if you're too busy fighting the smaller fire.

All well and good except you don't just put on your firefighting gear, you waste precious resources putting out the fire. And then get roflstomped by pyros. Great plan...<_<

Compared to the Turians or the Asari, we're a local township Ladder Company vs the NYFD. There isn't much we could do to fight that giant wildfire whether or not we wasted resources on the smaller fire, but we would have an increase in preparation ability, and our equipment would be all ready to roll. But the other crews at the much larger departments would be at the call and ready with gear and trucks and resources and whatever in place and ready if the local smaller fire got out of hand. And when the giant wildfire appears, the larger Fire Departments are ready to contain it and get it under enough control to mobilize even more support to stop the fire.

[hot_heart]

flemm wrote...
Well, you know me. ****** and Ass, that's all I care about

Hehe.

Just found this. Quite nice.

[hot_heart]

OK, to maybe encourage some non-combative discussion.

How do you think Miranda views the volus (biotic gods excepted)?

[flemm]

hot_heart wrote...

OK, to maybe encourage some non-combative discussion.

But, but... combative is the best kind

Modifié par flemm, 23 juillet 2012 - 07:11 .

[Dr. Doctor]

flemm wrote...

CrutchCricket wrote...

I don't see why. If you do what you're supposed to, everything's normal.

Meh. Fighting the Reapers isn't like... jury duty or something, where you're just doing what's expected of you as a citizen.

Catalyst: Make your choce.

Shepard: Does it have to be me?

Catalyst: I don't really care.

Shepard: Conrad! I have a very important mission for you.

Conrad: What is it?

Shepard: Pick a beam and start running towards it.

Conrad: Okay!

+9000 Renegade

[Skullheart]

Dr. Doctor wrote...

flemm wrote...

CrutchCricket wrote...

I don't see why. If you do what you're supposed to, everything's normal.

Meh. Fighting the Reapers isn't like... jury duty or something, where you're just doing what's expected of you as a citizen.

Catalyst: Make your choce.

Shepard: Does it have to be me?

Catalyst: I don't really care.

Shepard: Conrad! I have a very important mission for you.

Conrad: What is it?

Shepard: Pick a beam and start running towards it.

Conrad: Okay!

+9000 Renegade

Conrad, make me proud.

[hot_heart]

flemm wrote...
But, but... combative is the best kind

It has its benefits.

But the analogies were getting out of hand.

[enayasoul]

I added a poll to my fan fiction.  Two actually but one is attached to my profile.  I wanted to ask all you, our beloved Miranda fans, your opinion on a topic I've been working on a lot for my fan fiction.  It involves Miranda using in-vitro fertilization(IVF) to conceive a
child with Shepard.  Out of the three answer what do you want to
happen?  1) unsuccessful (IVF), 2) successful, pregnant and healthly
child, 3) successful but with complications.

The story is AU and probably occ to some but I've enjoyed creating the chapters(mostly when I was waiting for ME3 to arrive...) I'll be submitting the rest of the chapters after some revision and grammer stuff... finding out who Miranda's father was. Eldfell seemed to fit the bill, rich and all... but anyways. Looking for some votes.  May or may not change what I've already established... depends on feedback.)
http://www.fanfictio...1427385/sunzeng

EDIT: Thanks hot_heart for the url link.  mine

Modifié par enayasoul, 23 juillet 2012 - 07:44 .

[hot_heart]

I think you need to remove the ~ from the URL.

Tilde, that's what it's called.

Modifié par hot_heart, 23 juillet 2012 - 07:26 .

[flemm]

hot_heart wrote...

flemm wrote...
But, but... combative is the best kind

It has its benefits.

But the analogies were getting out of hand.

So, you mean...


The analogies were like a raging wildfire burning up the parched grasslands of the thread. And your post is like the torrential rain that douses the flames.


 

Modifié par flemm, 23 juillet 2012 - 07:29 .

[fiendishchicken]

hot_heart wrote...

OK, to maybe encourage some non-combative discussion.

How do you think Miranda views the volus (biotic gods excepted)?

I wouldn't call it a combative discussion. We're not being hostile to each other, we're just arguing for our respective POV's.

The Volus are not a physically adept race. However, they are very industrious and shrewd, being very adept at handling the economy and manufacturing vital war materials. In a fight, they're probably only good as a meat shield though. 

Elcor would be an asset if you used them wisely. Mobile heavy weapons platforms are useful. However, they really have nothing of value besides troop transport capability. It's no wonder they were pretty much left to fend for themselves. It's sad, but what real use are they?

Hanar are... Well I don't even really know. Big stupid jellyfish? Not adept at existing, much less fighting, on land. That's why they have the Drell. The Drell would be a much more effective fighting force with a physical constitution similar to humans and asari. And Drell warriors are very well trained. Problem is there aren't very many of them.

Vorcha would actually be a very resilient force to fight the Reapers. Tough and bloodthirsty, and no one really gives a damn about them, so canon fodder. As far as I see it, Vorcha are little more than Varren, but are just smart enough to hold a gun and not accidentally shoot themselves or an ally most of the time.

Rachni would be the best of the lesser acknowledged races in the game. A hive minded army of tough, resilient bugs that are capable of intelligent communication and space travel? The Rachni would definitely kickass.

Modifié par fiendishchicken, 23 juillet 2012 - 07:33 .

[Skullheart]

Why don't you do a plot twist and get Shepard pregnant?

[o Ventus]

Taboo-XX wrote...

Well...I'll be pulling her out of Sanctuary here soon.

What would she say to Oriana once she figures out about her and Shepard?

I would figure Oriana already knows about Miranda and Shepard.

[Dr. Doctor]

Skullheart wrote...

Why don't you do a plot twist and get Shepard pregnant?

Suddenly having a Shepard that looks like Arnold Schwarzenegger is a horrible, horrible thing.

[Skullheart]

Still thinking in content from the leaked script. It would be great if the fun line was said by Oriana.

"Stop talking and kiss me."
"I guess you are having fun."


@Dr

I knew someone would bring Junior to the ecuation.

Modifié par Skullheart, 23 juillet 2012 - 08:11 .