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[flemm]

@JB, wow, that's pretty sweet

MisterJB wrote...

Edit: quoted, for the top

Modifié par flemm, 25 juillet 2012 - 04:53 .

[Dr. Doctor]

enayasoul wrote...

Any speculation on how long the Reaper war lasted? How long Miranda and Shepard would have to endure being apart?

Probably around 6 months, Anderson makes reference to how they've been "holding out for the last few months". The pacing of the missions on Palaven, Sur'Kesh, and Tuchanka make it seem like they take place over the course of a few weeks to a month.

Thessia really strikes me as the day that the Normandy took a day trip to hell, and Sanctuary would take place a few hours to a day after that.

[Taboo]

The time span for ME2 is...three months? Someone said that once and I wasn't' sure how true it was.

And someone else said that the first game was a week or so. I'm not sure how true that was but still...

[Vertigo_1]

MisterJB wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...

 I'd really like someplace to blow off steam when I'm not working.

I'd rather be in here doing that than debating Synthesis all the time. Or have you forgotten that?

And that's fine. We so happen to have at least two major groups dedicated to Miranda with less exposition than this thread where we can say whatever comes to mind. In this thread, which lurkers and even devs might read, I'd rather we have more respectful and interesting debates. If there is none to be had at the moment, there is nothing wrong with lowering the movement on this thread for awhile.

Agreed!

Taboo-XX wrote...
But please do not give me that do goody good bull****. I've seen you post some rather unscrupulous things in this
thread. You're also never here, so it would make sense that you have no idea what the goings on are. We were discussing things that a MOD was talking with us about. They are well aware of the goings on.

That one time you were posting about Jack/Miranda having weapons slots and that being significant was wrong you know....I already posted why.  Check the c.ini editor

He was talking to you about it because you were apparently going to get banned over it.  Fact is JB's post wouldn't be up there if he (and others if you checked) didn't have any issue with the off topic discussion lately.  No one wants to see the thread locked so yeah there's that too.  The mod thing you mentioned was where you were drunk and were about to get banned over it.  Otherwise, no, mods only come in when someone points out that there's an issue within a thread inthe character/romance section.

MisterJB wrote...

Very nice! Love the attention to detail
This would have made a great romance scene on the Normandy...Shep goes up to his cabin...and finds this

Modifié par Vertigo_1, 26 juillet 2012 - 03:39 .

[Taboo]

There is always something to discuss.

The validity of the topic in question falls onto each individual. Should the thread be locked, it is not an inconceivable idea to believe a new could be made.

But please do not give me that do goody good bull****. I've seen you post some rather unscrupulous things in this thread. You're also never here, so it would make sense that you have no idea what the goings on are. We were discussing things that a MOD was talking with us about. They are well aware of the goings on.

Modifié par Taboo-XX, 25 juillet 2012 - 06:07 .

[Ieldra]

MisterJB wrote...

I just have to quote this again. Very nice work!

[Ieldra]

Taboo-XX wrote...
The scene relays a sense of comfort in one another, which everyone needs at the time. This makes the scene work, at least for me. I don't need anything but a fade to black to understand that they care about each other.

It works for me as well. It's disappointing in comparison with the scenes for the team LIs though, and I have a big problem with the writing in the non-romance part. Nowhere else do I get the vibe "that's not Miranda" as strongly as here.

[Ieldra]

LanceSolous13 wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...
You could fix both issues pretty easily.

Have DLC with Jack and Miranda and have said LI join you for whatever you wish in the cabin before they go.

Everybody wins!

Yeah, Jack and Miranda can be fixed together easily since they're tied to Cerberus and the idea of Jack's childhood mess being manufactured for War by Cerberus ties her into a mission and Miranda helping shut it down could easily develop their relationship.

But, as I said, I can't think of a way to fix Thane in the same DLC. He needs a lot more work thane Miranda and Jack combined.

I don't think so. As opposed to Jack and Miranda, Thane has a moment of awesome in the fight with Kai Leng and the most emotional death scene of all. All he needs is an additional scene with focus on the romance before that happens. Anyway Thanemancers won't be satisfied unless they get him to survive, and they won't get that.

Miranda would profit from more romance content, but what she really needs is her priorities rewritten to be more balanced. I find that almost impossible to accomplish via DLC.

[Ieldra]

LanceSolous13 wrote...

fiendishchicken wrote...

LanceSolous13 wrote...
So, Replaying ME1 (and trying to recreate my Shepard a million times to fix some issues such as brow depth and gaunt and ete.) Every time I think I have it perfect, I play through the opening cutscene and find something that really bugs me that I missed, like his cheeks being too caved in or I accidentally chose the wrong nose. GAH! I CAN RECITE THE PROLOGUE BY HEART!

Anyways, gah! The Writings, the Turian Emblems, The metals and gasses, Do these change anything later? I know the Matriarch one does in ME3 with Conrad but do the others? They're so long and there are so many Threasher Maws...

just play as a Sheploo. 

I'm going to be totally honest but...I think Sheploo is ugly. Blech. Just, I see the appeal but for my Shepard? Nope. I like my interpretation of Shepard and it also makes him unique.

Yeah, he's ugly. He's also Not My Shepard ™. I have eight distinctive Shepards, four maleSheps and four femSheps, and in spite of the all the autodialogue, they manage to come across as distinctive to me.

As for ME1, no, no other collection questions from ME1 matter but the Asari Writings. That's ok. I do all of them anyway. I haven't missed more than one resource per game in my last four playthroughs of ME1. There are also eight Thresher Maws in the game. As a rule they're easier to kill on foot. The only problematic ones are the three on planets with environmental hazards, since it's hard to kill them on foot without having to pause in the Mako in-between. Two are on Nonuel, the third....hmm....can it be I don't recall? Impossible.

[Thracecius]

Ieldra2 wrote...

MisterJB wrote...

I just have to quote this again. Very nice work!

Beautiful work. It would be a fitting desktop image. 

[Ieldra]

flemm wrote...

Dr. Doctor wrote...
What's sort of strange is that Miranda's codex entry never discusses the fact that she has a sister.

I think the codex entry was written by the same guy who wrote the post-Sanctuary SB email

It's all... "wow, look how awesome Miranda's genetic engineering is!"

All the while, in-game, it is as if that was never a topic. Except for the comment by Javik who is his usual trollish self.

[Caihn]

Vertigo_1 wrote...

MisterJB wrote...

Very nice! Love the attention to detail
This would have made a great romance scene on the Normandy...Shep goes up to his cabin...and finds this

I agree.

There is also the progress steps : 


And for those who are interested, he also draw two beautiful Yvonne fanarts :
http://a0lani.devian...urton-279519033 
http://a0lani.devian...ovski-274537874 

Modifié par Yannkee, 25 juillet 2012 - 08:09 .

[SpectresHonour]

Vertigo_1 wrote...

MisterJB wrote...

Very nice! Love the attention to detail
This would have made a great romance scene on the Normandy...Shep goes up to his cabin...and finds this

I'm SO going to use this for TMC!

Though it also begs the question what would Miri and Shep's before nightmare talk and after nightmare talk be?

[Thracecius]

Ieldra2 wrote...

LanceSolous13 wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...
You could fix both issues pretty easily.

Have DLC with Jack and Miranda and have said LI join you for whatever you wish in the cabin before they go.

Everybody wins!

Yeah, Jack and Miranda can be fixed together easily since they're tied to Cerberus and the idea of Jack's childhood mess being manufactured for War by Cerberus ties her into a mission and Miranda helping shut it down could easily develop their relationship.

But, as I said, I can't think of a way to fix Thane in the same DLC. He needs a lot more work thane Miranda and Jack combined.

I don't think so. As opposed to Jack and Miranda, Thane has a moment of awesome in the fight with Kai Leng and the most emotional death scene of all. All he needs is an additional scene with focus on the romance before that happens. Anyway Thanemancers won't be satisfied unless they get him to survive, and they won't get that.

Miranda would profit from more romance content, but what she really needs is her priorities rewritten to be more balanced. I find that almost impossible to accomplish via DLC.

Well said, Ieldra2. Thane's death wasn't the first scene to bring a tear (or several) to my eye, but I do believe that it is the one that hits me the hardest each time I see it, regardless of Shepard's gender. Perhaps because it is the most tragic? Mordin's death hurts, but it is filled with purpose and hope (if you cure the Genophage), and Anderson's, while tragic, is very similar in feeling. Perhaps it is because of the absolute sincereity and selflessness of his final gift as your friend?

Miranda, like many other beloved characters from the series, was severely shortchanged in the end game. I loved what small part she did play in the final chapter of Shepard's story, but I can't help but wish that she had been given the attention that she, and Shepard, deserved, romance or otherwise. Like the original poster stated, she's really the only one "playing on Shepard's field" when it comes to self-reliance, leadership and goal-driven determination. She is confident, but humble, much like a paragon Shepard, and while she is brilliant, skilled, powerful, and courageous to a fault, she still maintains that vulneralbility inherent to the human condition. In short, she is the perfect woman, if not by the literal definition then by the one created by the one who loves her (Shepard). As a character, she earned a better story.

[LanceSolous13]

Ieldra2 wrote...

LanceSolous13 wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...
You could fix both issues pretty easily.

Have DLC with Jack and Miranda and have said LI join you for whatever you wish in the cabin before they go.

Everybody wins!

Yeah, Jack and Miranda can be fixed together easily since they're tied to Cerberus and the idea of Jack's childhood mess being manufactured for War by Cerberus ties her into a mission and Miranda helping shut it down could easily develop their relationship.

But, as I said, I can't think of a way to fix Thane in the same DLC. He needs a lot more work thane Miranda and Jack combined.

I don't think so. As opposed to Jack and Miranda, Thane has a moment of awesome in the fight with Kai Leng and the most emotional death scene of all. All he needs is an additional scene with focus on the romance before that happens. Anyway Thanemancers won't be satisfied unless they get him to survive, and they won't get that.

Miranda would profit from more romance content, but what she really needs is her priorities rewritten to be more balanced. I find that almost impossible to accomplish via DLC.

Do you want me to go into detail all the Cutscene Incompetence in that poorly coriagraphed fight sequence? Mordin had the most emotional death scene in the game because it has proper set up AND actually gets brought up later. Thane is never mentioned again. Hell, Garrus, right after the coup, says he's glad they didn't have to put a name on the wall after the coup. I'm not saying that the bad fight scene has to go, but there definatly needs to be a different path with Thane's survival.

And, Thane had two (Maybe even three) cures in Mass Effect 2. First cure, Brought up during the very first conversation with Thane on the Normandy in Mass Effect 2. Second cure, Lair of the Shadow Broker DLC, Thane's files, Thane rejected a Lung Transplant because he was accepting of his death. After his Loyalty Mission, Thane wants to live; to survive for Kolyat (and Shepard). And, just today, I'm being told that there was a third cure about Medi-gel for the Lungs.

So, No, a cure is not impossible for Thane. I've done my research; more than Hepler did before writing him.

[Aliqaiser]

MisterJB wrote...

Awesome. I Love it, also Love the detail on her suit and especially the pose..........

[G02Guy4Tace]

Thracecius wrote...

Ieldra2 wrote...

LanceSolous13 wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...
You could fix both issues pretty easily.

Have DLC with Jack and Miranda and have said LI join you for whatever you wish in the cabin before they go.

Everybody wins!

Yeah, Jack and Miranda can be fixed together easily since they're tied to Cerberus and the idea of Jack's childhood mess being manufactured for War by Cerberus ties her into a mission and Miranda helping shut it down could easily develop their relationship.

But, as I said, I can't think of a way to fix Thane in the same DLC. He needs a lot more work thane Miranda and Jack combined.

I don't think so. As opposed to Jack and Miranda, Thane has a moment of awesome in the fight with Kai Leng and the most emotional death scene of all. All he needs is an additional scene with focus on the romance before that happens. Anyway Thanemancers won't be satisfied unless they get him to survive, and they won't get that.

Miranda would profit from more romance content, but what she really needs is her priorities rewritten to be more balanced. I find that almost impossible to accomplish via DLC.

Well said, Ieldra2. Thane's death wasn't the first scene to bring a tear (or several) to my eye, but I do believe that it is the one that hits me the hardest each time I see it, regardless of Shepard's gender. Perhaps because it is the most tragic? Mordin's death hurts, but it is filled with purpose and hope (if you cure the Genophage), and Anderson's, while tragic, is very similar in feeling. Perhaps it is because of the absolute sincereity and selflessness of his final gift as your friend?

Miranda, like many other beloved characters from the series, was severely shortchanged in the end game. I loved what small part she did play in the final chapter of Shepard's story, but I can't help but wish that she had been given the attention that she, and Shepard, deserved, romance or otherwise. Like the original poster stated, she's really the only one "playing on Shepard's field" when it comes to self-reliance, leadership and goal-driven determination. She is confident, but humble, much like a paragon Shepard, and while she is brilliant, skilled, powerful, and courageous to a fault, she still maintains that vulneralbility inherent to the human condition. In short, she is the perfect woman, if not by the literal definition then by the one created by the one who loves her (Shepard). As a character, she earned a better story.

Very well thought out. While I really love the original ME1 characters, the ones from ME2 were not exactly forgotten but lacked the depth they deserve. They all had good, complex personalities which weren't given their respective dues in 3. Of course Miranda had more content than other characters, but even she ended up with a lack of decent closure and depth in my opinion. Thane had a tragic/heroic moment but was left in the wind early on in the game. And Jack had little content at all, like other former squadmates.

Miranda (and the other LI's) basically lacked the intrinsic value each player should have been able to give them. She definitely deserves a longer, more thought out story than she was given, especially if she was romanced in both games. The missing content is very irksome.

[Ieldra]

LanceSolous13 wrote...
GAH! I CAN RECITE THE PROLOGUE BY HEART!

LOL. I know the locations of almost all mineral resources and the best way for the Mako to all sidequest locations by heart. The only problem I have when finding resources is that I sometimes mix up similar-looking planets in my mind.

The "shifty-looking cow" makes me crack up every time. Even after all this time.

Edit:
Thane was set up to die from the start. Anyone who can't see that is deceiving herself. If anything, it's those hints at a cure which are thematically inconsistent. But let's drop this, every time I'm trying to debate this it ends in a flame fest, and not from my side.

Modifié par Ieldra2, 25 juillet 2012 - 09:14 .

[LanceSolous13]

Ieldra2 wrote...

LanceSolous13 wrote...
GAH! I CAN RECITE THE PROLOGUE BY HEART!

LOL. I know the locations of almost all mineral resources and the best way for the Mako to all sidequest locations by heart. The only problem I have when finding resources is that I sometimes mix up similar-looking planets in my mind.

The "shifty-looking cow" makes me crack up every time. Even after all this time.

Shifty looking cow? O . o (Has only actually finished ME1 twice at this point.) And, I'm going to have to do it 2 more times at this rate because of new character. I really wish you could edit appearences if you were restarting with the same character. : /

It'll be forever till I get to ME2.

By the way, did you know the Jenkins is a fully upgradable Squaddie? I didn't know this till earlier this morning.

[Ieldra]

LanceSolous13 wrote...

Ieldra2 wrote...

LanceSolous13 wrote...
GAH! I CAN RECITE THE PROLOGUE BY HEART!

LOL. I know the locations of almost all mineral resources and the best way for the Mako to all sidequest locations by heart. The only problem I have when finding resources is that I sometimes mix up similar-looking planets in my mind.

The "shifty-looking cow" makes me crack up every time. Even after all this time.

Shifty looking cow? O . o (Has only actually finished ME1 twice at this point.) And, I'm going to have to do it 2 more times at this rate because of new character. I really wish you could edit appearences if you were restarting with the same character. : /

If you have an ME2 face code, you can recreate your Shepard in ME1 perfectly. You can also re-create an ME1 character with the ME2 CC so that you get a face code down to the last pixel, excepting the scar and a minimal change in skin tone on one setting, though that takes a little more effort and a few screenshots.

The shifty looking cow is a space cow you find on Ontarom, Newton System, Kepler Verge, near the mineral resource (I think it was gold) in the south-west.

By the way, did you know the Jenkins is a fully upgradable Squaddie? I didn't know this till earlier this morning.

He's got a normal Soldier's skill set, yes. 

BTW, I'm currently running a replay of ME2. Nice to see the real Miranda again. I needed to change a decision for one of my femSheps before importing her into ME3. I have altogether too many games where Wrex is dead and Maelon's cure is destroyed.

Modifié par Ieldra2, 25 juillet 2012 - 09:22 .

[LanceSolous13]

How does the ME2 Face code thing work? And, I've seen them before. Ran over them by accident in my first playthrough. *evil-guilty grin* They appear in Overlord DLC and you get some funny comments from the Hammerhead VI if you kill them.

"Defenceless Herbivore is no match for powerful missciles."
"The *insertwhateveritishere* would like to remind you that animals are people too."

They appear in groups of three in Overlord and there are two groups which respawn when you go to the other grouping.....I totally didn't spend an hour laughing my ass off while running them over....

[ChrisRudson]

Taboo-XX wrote...

The time span for ME2 is...three months? Someone said that once and I wasn't' sure how true it was.

And someone else said that the first game was a week or so. I'm not sure how true that was but still...

As far as I could remember, the timeline between events is on the ME3 Codex, although I'm not sure which section.

[LanceSolous13]

I was under the impression that ME2 was 6 to 9 months.

It has to be over 3 as the Blue Rose of Illium has a child by ME3.

[Ieldra]

LanceSolous13 wrote...
How does the ME2 Face code thing work?

From ME2 to ME1:
Each face code number or character corresponds to a slider position, slider positions are incremental given by the character's position in the sequence 123456789ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUV (some sliders have fewer positions, the ME2 CC has one position more corresponding to the "W", which doesn't matter because it's no different from the "V"). Use the ME1 CC and just count up until you the reach the character given in the ME2 facecode. Face code characters are grouped according to the CC pages. There is a mixup on the last or second-to-last page (I think it was the one with the makeup and beard setting) where you must experiment, otherwise it's pretty straightforward.

From ME1 no-facecode to ME2 facecode: 
You need Fraps and IrfanView. Import your ME1 character into ME2 and stop on the CC screen. Select "custom face".

For the first steps, start to recreate the major face-defining features: Face structure, skin texture, mouth and eye shape, brow shape, nose shape. You can switch between the imported and the custom face for reference at different angles without anything being lost. Should be pretty easy so far. If you find you can't get a recognizeable feature match, check the face structure setting, that's the most likely to go wrong. Note that whenever in this process you can't get the bone structure to match, most likely you have a wrong face structure setting. If you get these first steps right, the bone structure (apart from the cheekbones) should be noticeably the same. The other steps don't change much in that regard.

For the further steps, do the same with the other features until switching back and forth between the new and the old face doesn't help you any more. Then make screenshots from approprite angles, one of the old face and one of the new face. Use IrfanView to switch between them fast so you notice where features are even slightly different. Experiment with different sliders carefully until you get a better match. Use the shadows on the face to get the settings for the cheekbones and cheek gaunt right. They tend to be the most elusive features to get exactly right. In the end, you have faces identical down to the last pixel, proving that the complaint ME2 characters can't be made to match ME1 characters is false. You only lose the scar, and one makeup setting on femSheps doesn't match exactly.

Modifié par Ieldra2, 25 juillet 2012 - 10:18 .

[LanceSolous13]

Yeah, I'm not at ME2 yet sadly so that's a no go for me. lol Anyways, I fixed him up nice a good. I hate the Cheek Gaunt thing. Hate the boney skull face and caved in cheeks.

I can't wait to be done with ME1 so I can get back to ME2. Love ME2. Best in the series.