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[MisterJB]

Being at the center means everyone wants to remove you from it.
Rebuilding should be the main priority but there will also be a race to acquire Reaper technology. Having a number of operatives who ensures the best pieces end up in human hands would be good.

Every action has its place and purpose, even unhetical experiments. For instance, Cerberus created a drug capable of supressing biotic abilities. This has, of course, many practical uses in every day society and even more should Earth ever fight Thessia. What they did, however, was use it to discredit an influential asari matriarch who argued for biotic supremacy. This was only accomplished after brutal experiments on captured asari.

That is not to say violence should be the first considered solution. If we can connect the STG to the yahg attacks on human and turian colonies, all the better. If it is not possible, then perhaps it would be better to assassinate the scientists responsible for the project in their homes before they can deploy the yahg.

[o Ventus]

MisterJB wrote...

Being at the center means everyone wants to remove you from it.
Rebuilding should be the main priority but there will also be a race to acquire Reaper technology. Having a number of operatives who ensures the best pieces end up in human hands would be good.

Every action has its place and purpose, even unhetical experiments. For instance, Cerberus created a drug capable of supressing biotic abilities. This has, of course, many practical uses in every day society and even more should Earth ever fight Thessia. What they did, however, was use it to discredit an influential asari matriarch who argued for biotic supremacy. This was only accomplished after brutal experiments on captured asari.

That is not to say violence should be the first considered solution. If we can connect the STG to the yahg attacks on human and turian colonies, all the better. If it is not possible, then perhaps it would be better to assassinate the scientists responsible for the project in their homes before they can deploy the yahg.

I think you're trying a little too hard to be like Ozymandias.

[Taboo]

While I can appreciate wanting to be an advocate for humanity, no one got anywhere by brushing around with things we shouldn't be doing.

For example, Iranian scientists working on nuclear weapons are disappearing or dying by the dozens. Why? Because Israel doesn't want them possessing that technology.

It doesn't matter how many Salarians you kill, someone will always replace them. When the time comes, certain things would be taken into account. Someone will always do something stupid, and people will pay for it, but you shouldn't try to prevent it by being as bad as they are.

All it takes is one person growing a conscious and the whole thing falls apart.

[MisterJB]

And so far, Iran doesn't have any nuclear weapons. As far as we know, anyway. Clearly, Israel is doing something right. (we should be careful, the devs don't like people discussing real world policies on the forums)

What does that mean? Something we shouldn't be doing? If bad actions leads to the greater good, that is exactly what we should do. Miranda understood this.

Modifié par MisterJB, 26 juillet 2012 - 03:35 .

[Taboo]

Miranda also understood that there was a limit, which is why she quits. It's more than evident that her faith in Cerberus is breaking down by the time you reach the Collector ship. She has some very illuminating dialogue there.

Sometimes you do have to make hard decisions, but they shouldn't be predatory in nature either. The end choices are an example of this.

You have a far greater chance of aiding cancer patients by being ethical and telling the world what you're doing than locking people away in labs to experiment on them.

[fiendishchicken]

Taboo-XX wrote...

 My first job was working on a commercial for DOW Chemical. Here's one of the tidbits here.

I cleaned that shed for the prop master from David Lynch's Lost Highway, (Craig) Sherman Hall.

I made $200 dollars a day. And all I had to do was play **** to the producer, Mark.

That guy ended up on VH1 by the way. I think his name was Nick.

Oh first jobs. I slaved away as a target cart attendant. 

Aweful job. Hated it. Wouldn't recommend it.

Then I joined Uncle Sam, spent some time playing in the sand, and got to see a lot of foreign land.
Got college credits while on deployment, and along with previous high school college credits, got an AA in International Studies. Came home and got accepted to OCS, and made 2nd Lieutenant at 20, and now I'm here at Northeastern State University in Chicago finishing up my BA so I can make 1LT.

[fiendishchicken]

kratos0294 wrote...

Hold on, you are Comandocucumber ?
Did you wright, "the fourth option"

No, but he's got a lot of great ideas. He's a little bit too much on the Garrus bromance though. I've PM'd him alot and play Xbox with him. We're bro's. We actually have a lot of the same idea's and since I'm too lazy to ever actually do any real work on my fic, I tell him something, or he comes up with something that I like. More often than not it's his idea's though.

And my idea is Miranda turning Shepard down when he proposes to her on the Normandy. He did his a little after the Crucible mission. My fic doesn't have so much happiness as the 4th option. For the first month after the end of ME3, No one is really sure if Shepard will even live. And even though we're both pretty vocal anti-alliance, I'm a little bit more subtle than he is. And as great a creator of idea's as he is, his writing needs a lot of work. 

Modifié par fiendishchicken, 26 juillet 2012 - 03:54 .

[MisterJB]

Taboo-XX wrote...

Miranda also understood that there was a limit, which is why she quits. It's more than evident that her faith in Cerberus is breaking down by the time you reach the Collector ship. She has some very illuminating dialogue there.

Sometimes you do have to make hard decisions, but they shouldn't be predatory in nature either. The end choices are an example of this.

You have a far greater chance of aiding cancer patients by being ethical and telling the world what you're doing than locking people away in labs to experiment on them.

Not true, ethics do slow down progress. Many of the medical science we take for granted nowadays only exists because the National Socialist party (yes, yes, Godwin's rule) was willing to commit inhuman experiments in the name of progress.

As for Miranda, back in ME2, she resigned because TIM proved he did not care in the sligthest about individual people like Shepard or herself. He betrayed the personal trust she placed on him.
As for ME3, well...


Miranda does have her limits.

Modifié par MisterJB, 26 juillet 2012 - 03:55 .

[Taboo]

The truth is is that you get things done in Hollywood by having connections more than anything.

But if you're not careful it will eat you alive. And it's always hungry.

Those stories you hear are true for the most part, and aren't just exaggeration.

[Taboo]

I've read extensive reports of what people like Doctor Mengele did. Do not compare them to Cerberus.

Cerberus is FAR better than that.

Nothing learned there has any basis on ethical research that would benefit EVERYONE. The things that occurred in those camps are above an beyond reproach.

[fiendishchicken]

Taboo-XX wrote...

The truth is is that you get things done in Hollywood by having connections more than anything.

But if you're not careful it will eat you alive. And it's always hungry.

Those stories you hear are true for the most part, and aren't just exaggeration.

Army is arguably worse right now. Especially considering how overstrength we are right now. Any officer that doesn't get at least a 388 out of 410 on his yearly evaluations can kiss any chance on promotion he has goodbye and will never be in charge of anything more than a parking lot custodial team. I scored a 408 on my review. And that's taking a hit in the MI corps. But I'm still a fresh butterbar, only 5 months out of training, so I get a little leeway. And since I'm not a ringknocker (Service Academy grad) I can't use connections like they do. I have my parents but they're Navy (For anyone wondering, the Spacer background for Shepard is the same for me.) and they can't really help me out too much. All I have is one deployment, a Basic Airborne Badge, a Combat Action Badge (not actually that great, it just means I was in the general vicinity of a gunfight once...) and a Commission. But I at least have job stability for the next 7 years. In Hollywood, you lose, you lose big and you lose everything. It must suck. 

[MisterJB]

Cerberus used to be more complex than that. In ME3, they are Space N*zis. Plain and simple.

"Above and beyond reproach"? Are you sure that is what you meant?
Well, let me give you an example closer to home. Keeping Maelon's research is the only way to save Bakara. More than that, keep the research and it becomes the basis of Mordin's cure that will benefit every single krogan . And it was all possible thanks to inhuman experiments.

[fiendishchicken]

Taboo-XX wrote...

I've read extensive reports of what people like Doctor Mengele did. Do not compare them to Cerberus.

Cerberus is FAR better than that.

Nothing learned there has any basis on ethical research that would benefit EVERYONE. The things that occurred in those camps are above an beyond reproach.

Cerberus did some pretty horrid things, but they never outright killed someone for ****s and giggles like Mengele.

One night in 1944, he killed 14 sets of Jewish twins alone (28 kids in total) just because he was upset over the outcome of a soccer match.

[fiendishchicken]

MisterJB wrote...

And so far, Iran doesn't have any nuclear weapons. As far as we know, anyway. Clearly, Israel is doing something right. (we should be careful, the devs don't like people discussing real world policies on the forums)

What does that mean? Something we shouldn't be doing? If bad actions leads to the greater good, that is exactly what we should do. Miranda understood this.

I can tell you some pretty disturbing things that both sides have done from about 23 years ago. Any more recent is a serious breach of OPSEC.

[o Ventus]

Taboo-XX wrote...

I've read extensive reports of what people like Doctor Mengele did. Do not compare them to Cerberus.

Cerberus is FAR better than that.

Nothing learned there has any basis on ethical research that would benefit EVERYONE. The things that occurred in those camps are above an beyond reproach.

My 7th grade Geography teacher told me of the time he met some holocaust survivors who owned a candy store. A husband and his wife. The husband had the bones in his feet surgically removed (the muscles and flesh remained). There wasn't much of a reason behind it.

Exactly what did this teach us about medicine that we didn't already know from common sense?

[MisterJB]

fiendishchicken wrote...
Cerberus did some pretty horrid things, but they never outright killed someone for ****s and giggles like Mengele.

One night in 1944, he killed 14 sets of Jewish twins alone (28 kids in total) just because he was upset over the outcome of a soccer match.

Yes, thanks. We can do the math.

Anyway, I'll point you to the C-Sec traitor who was killed because he "stopped being useful."

Modifié par MisterJB, 26 juillet 2012 - 04:16 .

[Dr. Doctor]

Working on giving ME3 Miranda some actual armor for when she goes to Sanctuary

[o Ventus]

Dr. Doctor wrote...

Working on giving ME3 Miranda some actual armor for when she goes to Sanctuary

I'd rather she not just be another nameless Nemesis. We already have Legion taking up that slot if he was sold to Cerberus in ME2.

[MisterJB]

[fiendishchicken]

jtav wrote...

Does the idea of Shep/Miranda running away together to explore new planets excite anyone else or just me? *thinks she might've found a Destroy concept she actually likes*

That's how my ending is. Of course they get married... not sure if that's your thing.

[fiendishchicken]

CrutchCricket wrote...

Chaotic-Fusion wrote...
Wasn't there some sort of big controversy with her star wars books? She called those who disagreed with her "tali-fans", how well do you think she'd fare with BSN?

Funny, since she's just as rabid for Mandalorians and Boba Fett in particular (notice the helmeted similarities:lol:)

Supposedly she writes Jedi as little ****es when up against manly Mandalorians. Hasn't endeared her to the Star Wars community at large.

Hmm. Wonder who she'd favor in ME. Quarians have the helmets and are nomads. Krogan got the mercs and the bloodlust warriors...

I'm guessing if she wrote, one quarian teenager would roflstomp an asari matriarch like it ain't no thing.

If you want to try and recruit from Star Wars writers, you do have better choices. You've already got Drew. I'd try and get Timothy Zahn. He wrote Thrawn. That is all.

If Revan, Thrawn, and Darth Caedus teamed up... Most. Unstoppable. Force. The Star Wars Galaxy has ever seen.
And Meetra Surik (The Jedi Exile). With HK-47 and Exar Kun and Ulic-Qel Droma.

Modifié par fiendishchicken, 26 juillet 2012 - 04:37 .

[Taboo]

Shepard couldn't promise Miranda that he would stay safe.

He will be berated regardless in my scenario.

I would not have it ANY other way.

[fiendishchicken]

MisterJB wrote...

fiendishchicken wrote...
Cerberus did some pretty horrid things, but they never outright killed someone for ****s and giggles like Mengele.

One night in 1944, he killed 14 sets of Jewish twins alone (28 kids in total) just because he was upset over the outcome of a soccer match.

Yes, thanks. We can do the math.

Anyway, I'll point you to the C-Sec traitor who was killed because he "stopped being useful."

You don't have to be such a dick about the math part. I was just emphasizing the number of children killed on one night alone. 

As for the C-Sec Traitor, he could have been a potential information leak. He wasn't outright killed because TIM was upset about his coffee being too hot that morning.

Modifié par fiendishchicken, 26 juillet 2012 - 04:44 .

[fiendishchicken]

Taboo-XX wrote...

Shepard couldn't promise Miranda that he would stay safe.

He will be berated regardless in my scenario.

I would not have it ANY other way.

imagine how much yelling Miranda would have done after Arrival.
I think Shepard has the right to be upset with Miranda over going to Sanctuary without telling him.

Funny like how on Mars he gets all worried about the VS (who called him a traitor and constantly questioned his motives on Mars) yet on Sanctuary he sees Miranda (his love) alone being attacked by Kai Leng and he's like, "Gee hope she can handle him." 

[Dr. Doctor]

o Ventus wrote...

I'd rather she not just be another nameless Nemesis. We already have Legion taking up that slot if he was sold to Cerberus in ME2.

It's a retouched suit of Phantom armor, which to me strikes a pretty good balace between Miranda's current jumpsuit and her ME2 armor. I've got the model working in the Unreal Engine 3 SDK so there may be more to come.