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"I'll always want you in my life." Miranda Lawson in Mass Effect 3


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Would Miri be more of a Sangria or a Merlot Person when it comes to drinking on "Special" Occasions? She wouldn't be a Ryncol Person.

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fiendishchicken wrote...
Same here. Tali utterly hates Miranda and is in love with 'The Shepard', and when Miri probably tells her to get lost to clear out the engine room, she doesn't realize what Miri and Shep are doing. Once she finds out though that Miri is 'having her way' with Shepard, she'll probably try to get her shotgun and kill Miranda.

Not nearly as bad as Ashley. She'd try to force herself on Shepard, after arresting Miranda. 

Part of my fic has Ashley going psycho-ex girlfriend. Shepard has to put her down when she tries to stop Shepard from saving Miranda from execution by the alliance.

Seriously? You'r ridiculously distorting the personalities of characters you dislike. I don't particularly care for either but this is not a commendable attitude.

Tali hates Miranda and loves Shepard, that is a fact. However, quarian culture places incredible value on cooperation between crewmates. Tali is not about shoot any crew of the Normandy, Cerberus or not. Certainly not over petty jealousy. She will cry and move on.
The incident with legion was an exceptional incident caused by, understandable, racism towards synthetic life and Legion's own actions. Which too, were understandable.

Ashley could very well try to shoot Shepard. But she would do so on the basis that Shepard is taking the side of a known Cerberus operative which brings his loyalty into question. Not over the fact her boyfriend moved on and is with someone else.

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Taboo-XX wrote...

Mr Massakka wrote...

fiendishchicken wrote...

http://social.biowar...ndex/13359773/1

ME3 EC Survey.

Thanks.

Really hope I am not the only one who is not blinded by all the pretty pictures that the EC provided.

The endings still suck and BioWare hasn't changed anything about my neagtive attitude towards their company.


It could have been worse.

I'm just thankful that they retconned Walters Dark Age bull****.

Patrick Weekes put it together, at least that's what I've been lead to understand. Not even he could fix everything. I'm sure he's responsible for these retcons.

Sure it could have been worse, but it's not what everyone praised it to be: They just added these ridiculously cheesy goodbyes and forced happiness. That's why everyone is happy.


@Chicken: I could come to Xbox in a hour.

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Seriously? You'r ridiculously distorting the personalities of characters you dislike. I don't particularly care for either but this is not a commendable attitude.


You do the exact same thing mate. We all do. It's his canon not ours. He can do as he wishes.

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MASSEFFECTfanforlife101 wrote...

Would Miri be more of a Sangria or a Merlot Person when it comes to drinking on "Special" Occasions? She wouldn't be a Ryncol Person.


Sangria.

Wine is classy.

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No, I'd think that by that time everyone on the ship would know that something was up. It's quite evident that Miranda would be possessive of Shepard, as evidenced in dialogue. Tali would probably know, but the fact that they were doing things of an adult nature in her work space I'd think she'd be upset.

Oh, and I did some looking and you can in fact see the walk way from the armory. The entrance is rendered, the platform is not. If Jacob or any other member were to look at the window they'd see everything. I laughed so hard when I realized this.


Well the way I see it the crews reaction to the relationship would be:

Joker: giggling uncontrollaby and having EDI tape it.

EDI: informing Commander Shepard of Joker's request, while secretly taping it for her own analysis.

Jacob: Feeling a twinge of jealousy, but leaving it alone. They could all be dead by the end of the mission, let them have their fun. He also believes that Miranda may be trying to manipulate Shepard, but he trusts them both to make sound judgement.

Mordin: Same as Jacob, without the jealousy; he states this in the game. He even gives Shepard a packet describing inventive uses of mass effect fields for biotic intercourse, and offers to supply ointments, lube, and oils.

Thane: Happy to see the Commander and Miranda have sought comfort in each other and found happiness together, and wishes them happiness and peace.

Samara: Same as Thane

Kasumi: Same as Joker, and approving of the relationship for both of their sakes

Garrus: Worried at first that Shepard is getting involved, a little too closely, with a Cerberus officer. In the end he see's it as a way for them to work off stress, and as long as Miranda is loyal to Shepard, Garrus doesn't have a problem with her.

Legion: Analyzes the data compiled by EDI, and doesn't understand why organics would resort to primitive emotionally driven reproductive sessions during periods of great stress.

Zaeed: Slightly amused that the princess and Shepard are getting it on, but otherwise couldn't care less.

Grunt: Hopes that the Battlemaster breeds well with the strong human female to further strengthen the clan. Otherwise couldn't care less.

Jack: Couldn't care less, still hates the cheerleader.

Tali: As I said she would have the most emotional and negative reaction. She wold also be the type to be oblivious to the relationship until she goes to Garrus to complain, and as he gently tells her whats going on she panics at the thought of Shepard being with a Cerberus agent and wants to kill her, while Garrus prevents her from doing anything rash. In fact I can see Shepard and Garrus having an unspoken understanding that Garrus will keep Tali occupied during any event that may occur between Shepard and Miranda.

Meanwhile, minus Chakwas and maybe Kelly, the rest of the ship's crew wouldn't know but they'd suspect that there was something.

Modifié par fiendishchicken, 28 juillet 2012 - 06:32 .


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Taboo-XX wrote...

MASSEFFECTfanforlife101 wrote...

Would Miri be more of a Sangria or a Merlot Person when it comes to drinking on "Special" Occasions? She wouldn't be a Ryncol Person.


Sangria.

Wine is classy.


Tonic and Gin are high class, but more English in nature.

Champagne is also feasible. 

Drinking hard alcohol alone isn't very classy unless the drink is like wine or champagne. cocktails are the more high end type beverages.

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Taboo-XX wrote...

MASSEFFECTfanforlife101 wrote...

Would Miri be more of a Sangria or a Merlot Person when it comes to drinking on "Special" Occasions? She wouldn't be a Ryncol Person.


Sangria.

Wine is classy.


Definitely Sangria. It fits Miri. I can imagine her relaxing at the beach under an Umbrella and drinking a Sangria.

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Kasumi more than approves. She watches.

"Really Shepard? In the engine room? Where Tali works?"

LOL

But yeah, I can see Grunt doing that.

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Kasumi more than approves. She watches.


Someone ought to write a fanfic about this.  Voyeur Kasumi sounds hawt. 

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Someone thought it would be funny to link me an 18+ Fan Fiction with EDI.

It could quite possibly be the most ridiculous thing I've ever seen.

I'd rather stay within the boundaries of good taste.

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Taboo-XX wrote...

Someone thought it would be funny to link me an 18+ Fan Fiction with EDI.

It could quite possibly be the most ridiculous thing I've ever seen.

I'd rather stay within the boundaries of good taste.


was it Sex toy mode or Sexbot mode?

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Taboo-XX wrote...

Kasumi more than approves. She watches.

"Really Shepard? In the engine room? Where Tali works?"

LOL

But yeah, I can see Grunt doing that.


Grunt: The Battlemaster finally has a mate! Not even a Krogan Warlord can move like that, Shepard. Ha! A Perfect Pick too. Not for me though. Human Females are....tiny and fragile. 

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fiendishchicken wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...

Someone thought it would be funny to link me an 18+ Fan Fiction with EDI.

It could quite possibly be the most ridiculous thing I've ever seen.

I'd rather stay within the boundaries of good taste.


was it Sex toy mode or Sexbot mode?


I don't want to talk about it.

I didn't really read it as it just got too...adsurd.

And I truly think I was supposed to take it seriously.

It's the type of fan fiction that gives fan fiction a BAD name.

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I wonder what kinky biotic sex would be like for the two.
For me Miranda is the biotic in the couple. Shepard is a soldier.

That also just reminded me of something that was never touched on a lot in the ME2

The issue over biotics. It doesn't have to be anything like the X-men, but it's kind of interesting if you think about it.

What would Miranda have though about the treatment of biotics?

How is Miranda biotic anyway? She was born in 2150. Initial human exposure wasn't until 2151 (singapore).

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My Shepard is a Vanguard.

Her father did it. Being him I'd imagine he'd want the best. And he'd test it on his newly grown daughter.

I also did some research on female pregnancy issues (The BSN has done terrible things to me) and if Miranda's issues are in fact caused by a benign tumor, they will most likely be located inside or outside of her uterus. These are known as Uterine Fibroids.

She could also have blocked Fallopian Tubes. You can flush those with Dye to see if they're functioning.

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I wonder about another way that Shepard and Miranda could have a child - Surrogacy.

Assuming Miranda has healthy eggs, all one would have to do is extract them, fertilize them, and re-implant them into a healthy uterus.

Assuming Oriana doesn't have the same issue, she could in fact be the surrogate mother. Hell if that was the case just use Oriana for in vitro. She is basically Miranda's clone. A child from her would be the exact same as any child Miranda and Shepard concieve.

I wonder why some have never discussed this. How would Miranda, Shepard, and Oriana react to it?

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We're simply told she's infertile. As I mentioned yesterday, much to my embarrassment, I would think that Miranda has had regular...monthly episodes since hitting puberty just like every other woman.

She'd know if something was up before then. She also didn't know about it until later, which leads me to believe the issue is caused by something other than bad eggs.

I'd put my money on tumors being caused by her tailoring and her father's biotic manipulation and some such.

If you can create a healthy environment for the Uterus for at least nine months, you can have a baby. She did bring Shepard back to life. I don't think it's all that far fetched to think we can't fix her reproductive system.

Oriana is going to have the same issues Miranda. So putting her baby in her sister won't do anyone any good.

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Taboo-XX wrote...

We're simply told she's infertile. As I mentioned yesterday, much to my embarrassment, I would think that Miranda has had regular...monthly episodes since hitting puberty just like every other woman.

She'd know if something was up before then. She also didn't know about it until later, which leads me to believe the issue is caused by something other than bad eggs.

I'd put my money on tumors being caused by her tailoring and her father's biotic manipulation and some such.

If you can create a healthy environment for the Uterus for at least nine months, you can have a baby. She did bring Shepard back to life. I don't think it's all that far fetched to think we can't fix her reproductive system.

Oriana is going to have the same issues Miranda. So putting her baby in her sister won't do anyone any good.


Yes to all the above. That's my opinion. 

However on the subject of Oriana...
She's about 15 years junior to Miranda. If your theory on the tumors is true, then they shouldn't have progressed in Oriana like they have in Miranda. Which means Oriana is still a viable option. And if she wasn't, fertilizing Miranda's egg with Shepard's sperm and then placing it in a healthy uterus still makes it their child genetically, even if it isn't Miranda or Oriana's womb. 

If the infertility is caused by genetic factors... that's going to be very difficult to cure. You'd basically have to rewrite every bit of genetic code in Miranda's body, and unless you pick Synthesis, that's not going to happen easily or safely.

Modifié par fiendishchicken, 28 juillet 2012 - 07:06 .


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I think that it shouldn't be this complicated.

It shouldn't be all that hard to fix it in your canon because Bioware has never expressly told you how she's infertile. She clearly has eggs.

But somewhere along the the pathway, something gets hokey and things stop. A tumor does that.

But then again I know nothing about the specifics. I'd think that it's only fair that we decide what the issue is and how to resolve it.

Modifié par Taboo-XX, 28 juillet 2012 - 07:09 .


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Yeah surrogacy is a perfectly viable alternative.
As far as my own canon goes if several years down Miranda still wants kids my Shep will move heaven and earth to achieve that aim. In the aftermath of the war there's far too much that's going to need their attention for the issue to be centre stage.

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My Shepard would move Heaven and Earth as well.

Although Miranda is thirty six. Once she turns forty the chances for birth defects becomes higher.

But I don't think that that will be an issue in the future.

I think.

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It would interesting to see what kind of child Liara would have with Javik though...

:lol:
So I'm not the only one who sees them as lovers after the war?

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Taboo-XX wrote...
It would interesting to see what kind of child Liara would have with Javik though...

:lol:
So I'm not the only one who sees them as lovers after the war?


No you aren't.

Thank God I'm not the only one who sees this. And here I thought I was just being aloof again.

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I'm just thankful that they retconned Walters Dark Age bull****.

Patrick Weekes put it together, at least that's what I've been lead to understand. Not even he could fix everything. I'm sure he's responsible for these retcons.

You can't imagine my relief when I saw that retconned. That alone made it possible for me to play again.