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"I'll always want you in my life." Miranda Lawson in Mass Effect 3


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Dr. Doctor wrote...

Either that or it's a glitch caused by some of the enhancements he created. The clinic's diagnosis did say that they couldn't tell if it was because of her tailoring or other factors causing it. Someone with comprehensive records of Miranda's tailoring would be able to give a better second opinion.


Yeah, that's the "accidental" possibility. Which is also plausible enough, of course. As a story idea, I think it's a bit less interesting.


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 I think it gives us the room for possibilites that we can pick and choose.

Henry began to grow Oriana when Miranda was just a child. If he did goof up with her reproductive system, the problems would start showing up then and would be noticable, as I'm sure he had his children inspected.

He's been growing many children, but Miranda was just the first one he kept. I think it's entirely possible he disposed of ones he didn't find perfect enough. When he found out Miranda would have issues with her reproductive system, he made a new daughter to replace the older, flawed one.

I would think that someone with that level of narcissim wouldn't be able to deal with something flawed, which is more than evident in Miranda's dialouge.

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Also, regarding the picture at the top of the page, it's nice to know that Bioware can capture "that look" women give you when they want something.

But it also depresses me because they can't make a smile to save their souls.

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Actually, it's implied in that third convo that Oriana was grown after Miranda escaped. So it seems likely that Miranda was physically fine at 15 or so.

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Taboo-XX wrote...

 I think it gives us the room for possibilites that we can pick and choose.

Henry began to grow Oriana when Miranda was just a child. If he did goof up with her reproductive system, the problems would start showing up then and would be noticable, as I'm sure he had his children inspected.

He's been growing many children, but Miranda was just the first one he kept. I think it's entirely possible he disposed of ones he didn't find perfect enough. When he found out Miranda would have issues with her reproductive system, he made a new daughter to replace the older, flawed one.

I would think that someone with that level of narcissim wouldn't be able to deal with something flawed, which is more than evident in Miranda's dialouge.


Maybe Henry was going to despose of Miranda the night she kidnapped Orianna.

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What, you mean people don't smile like this?
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So... lifelike...

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jtav wrote...

Actually, it's implied in that third convo that Oriana was grown after Miranda escaped. So it seems likely that Miranda was physically fine at 15 or so.


It's implied that he started growing her when she was just a teenager. She took a baby.

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Miranda would have been useful on Insanity.


Especially now that the squadmates aren't largely redundant.

Sentinel Shepard + Miranda (Sentinel) + Liara or Javik is just biotic explosion after biotic explosion after biotic explosion with no pause inbetween.

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I beg to differ.
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Also, she took Oriana the night she left. Niket didn't know this. Had he, he wouldn't have helped her escape.

That baby has been growing for a while. She took Oriana because she knew what he was.

Also, that picture...shudder. That's not even remotely human looking Bioware. Shepard does the same thing when Garrus talks about the tie breaker in his quarters with the Turian female.

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MisterJB wrote...

I beg to differ.


That isn't rendered the same way Shepard's face is.

Minus ten points.

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Anybody ever notice how similar the skeletal frame for the N7 Shadow (Infiltrator) is to Miranda?

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"After I got out of there, I couldn't stand by and let it happen to my sister. I risked my life to get her away from all that."

She came back for Ori later.

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Bah, I'll take any excuse to post the flashback.

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jtav wrote...

"After I got out of there, I couldn't stand by and let it happen to my sister. I risked my life to get her away from all that."

She came back for Ori later.


Niket makes that dialouge sound irrelevant because she took a baby. Had he know he wouldn't have helped. That takes place in the last section of the mission before you make sure Oriana is safe.

Miranda also isn't entirely forthcoming wiht information until you get to the first elevator.

But I suppose your're probably right.

But how long do you suppose it takes to grow the child? Nine months, like a normal child?

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o Ventus wrote...

Anybody ever notice how similar the skeletal frame for the N7 Shadow (Infiltrator) is to Miranda?


I haven't unlocked any of them yet so I haven't had time to look at one up close.

I would imagine the Infiltrator has some muscle on her.

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I think Henry would have wanted to let the fetus develop normally, he wouldn't have wanted to risk any kind birth defect by accelerating the process.

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Taboo-XX wrote...

o Ventus wrote...

Anybody ever notice how similar the skeletal frame for the N7 Shadow (Infiltrator) is to Miranda?


I haven't unlocked any of them yet so I haven't had time to look at one up close.

I would imagine the Infiltrator has some muscle on her.


Actually her body type is almost identical to Miranda's (Major difference being the clothing, for obvious reasons).

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o Ventus wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...

o Ventus wrote...

Anybody ever notice how similar the skeletal frame for the N7 Shadow (Infiltrator) is to Miranda?


I haven't unlocked any of them yet so I haven't had time to look at one up close.

I would imagine the Infiltrator has some muscle on her.


Actually her body type is almost identical to Miranda's (Major difference being the clothing, for obvious reasons).


Well I can imagine a lithe form being ideal for such a thing. There are women who look like Miranda, but they have a tendency to be on cat walks instead of space ships. Although I'm sure her tailoring allows her to look like that and have superior muscle and bone structure as well.

Maybe.

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o Ventus wrote...

Anybody ever notice how similar the skeletal frame for the N7 Shadow (Infiltrator) is to Miranda?


It's the same for the Phantom and Nemesis
I've opened them all up and checked in 3ds Max (trying to give her a new outfit for comic project)

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Chaotic-Fusion wrote...

I think Henry would have wanted to let the fetus develop normally, he wouldn't have wanted to risk any kind birth defect by accelerating the process.


It's interesting to think about.

He's certainly more than willing to throw out daughters that he doesn't think are perfect. This was probably trial and error for him.

A terrible thing to imagine.

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And he remarked that Sanctuary was 'assembly-line science'...

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Taboo-XX wrote...
He's certainly more than willing to throw out daughters that he doesn't think are perfect. This was probably trial and error for him.


The sequence of events seems clear enough. He intended to keep Miranda ("I wasn't the first one he created, just the first one he kept"), but she rebelled. Orianna was created to replace her, and Miranda came back to liberate her.

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hot_heart wrote...

And he remarked that Sanctuary was 'assembly-line science'...


Yes, a frightening concept. It makes sense why he'd discard daughters he didn't think were perfect.

It certainly gives an interesting concept to think about Miranda being in Cerberus.

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flemm wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...
He's certainly more than willing to throw out daughters that he doesn't think are perfect. This was probably trial and error for him.


The sequence of events seems clear enough. He intended to keep Miranda ("I wasn't the first one he created, just the first one he kept"), but she rebelled. Orianna was created to replace her, and Miranda came back to liberate her.


No it really doesn't because Niket's dialouge contradicts that. She took a baby when she left.

It's entirely possible she ran and came back and Henry grew a child just in case. When she learned about this she made steps to leave again, this time with Niket's help.

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