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"I'll always want you in my life." Miranda Lawson in Mass Effect 3


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LanceSolous13

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o Ventus wrote...

Homie-Wan wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...

Miranda manages to get a tracker on him as well. He's supposed to be the best? Maybe Miranda did more to him than we thought.

Or he really just is that incompotent.

^ Probably that.


yeah i'd go with the latter. I'm still not even sure why his character even exists, his purpose is really only to remove thane and miranda from the game, he litteraly gets nothing else acomplished.



In the old script, IIRC, he was supposed to kill Wrex and the VS (based on choices, of course).


???

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In the old script you had to choose between Liara and the VS at one point. One had to die.

What could have been. What could have been.

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LanceSolous13 wrote...

o Ventus wrote...

Homie-Wan wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...

Miranda manages to get a tracker on him as well. He's supposed to be the best? Maybe Miranda did more to him than we thought.

Or he really just is that incompotent.

^ Probably that.


yeah i'd go with the latter. I'm still not even sure why his character even exists, his purpose is really only to remove thane and miranda from the game, he litteraly gets nothing else acomplished.



In the old script, IIRC, he was supposed to kill Wrex and the VS (based on choices, of course).


???


The "old" old script. It was vastly different than the current script. There were some good aspects to it (Kai Leng's lethality being one of them) but it was mostly detestable.

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Mac Walters wrote Kai Leng in ME3.

That explains both the stereotype and the inability to fit him cohesively into the story.

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Taboo-XX wrote...

In the old script you had to choose between Liara and the VS at one point. One had to die.

What could have been. What could have been.


Easiest. Choice. Ever.

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krukow wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...

In the old script you had to choose between Liara and the VS at one point. One had to die.

What could have been. What could have been.


Easiest. Choice. Ever.


I know. 

Of all the things they had to cut it HAD to be this. Liara would die EVERY time.

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Taboo-XX wrote...

Mac Walters wrote Kai Leng in ME3.

That explains both the stereotype and the inability to fit him cohesively into the story.


*To fit him into the story at all.

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o Ventus wrote...

In the old script, IIRC, he was supposed to kill Wrex and the VS (based on choices, of course).


really, that would have been somthing to see. with they way the implemented leng in the game already though I'm glad the didn't go that rout.

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Mac Walters on Kai Leng- "Now what goes into the characterization of a badass serial killer? Hmm...I know! He'll run from every battle once he knows he's in trouble. Seems artistic enough."

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"And we're gonna put in Kai Leng because...ninjas are cool."

Well done Mac. I applaud you.

What really pisses me off is that he can kill two characters infinitely better written than anything he's ever done.

Modifié par Taboo-XX, 30 juillet 2012 - 02:36 .


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Taboo-XX wrote...

krukow wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...

In the old script you had to choose between Liara and the VS at one point. One had to die.

What could have been. What could have been.


Easiest. Choice. Ever.


I know. 

Of all the things they had to cut it HAD to be this. Liara would die EVERY time.


Same! Posted Image

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dtrain24 wrote...

Mac Walters on Kai Leng- "Now what goes into the characterization of a badass serial killer? Hmm...I know! He'll run from every battle once he knows he's in trouble. Seems artistic enough."


That's the key word.

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LanceSolous13 wrote...

I sort of wonder what Miranda's previous interactions with Leng were. You know, before ME3. What casues her to call him a 'slippery bastard'? I know he is one, but what makes her believe that.

Could be an interesting story to tell there.


Well... 

To: All Operatives
From: Human Resources (Coryphaeus Cell, Minuteman Station, Horsehead Nebula)

To whom it may concern,

Operative Lawson would like to remind all station personel that she knows who's been stealing her breakfast from the commissary fridge. She does not care if said individual is an "adrenaline junkie" if they want something constructive to do they are more than welcome to join Ajax squad for their monthly recon mission in the Tuchanka badlands.


To: All Operatives
From: Human Resources (Coryphaeus Cell, Minuteman Station, Horsehead Nebula) 

To whom may concern,

Restrooms are located on decks 4, 6, and 12 and are fully functional. The decorative plants located in Operative Lawson's office are not acceptable substitutes for the proper facilities. 


To: All Operatives
From: Quartermaster's Office (Hephaestus Cell, Noveria)

Concealable weapons for use in close combat are available and may be requisitioned by the leader of your cell upon request. While it may be "cool" to fashion a shiv out of another operative's toothbrush it is highly unprofessional. We're not banging rocks together people, we're a respectable paramilitary organization.


To: All Operatives
From: Human Resources (Coryphaeus Cell, Minuteman Station, Horsehead Nebula)  

Operative Leng would like to remind his fellow operatives that he doesn't make fun of their hobbies. If he chooses to flip around like a pretty ballerina while he's off duty that's his prerogative. He also requests that his fellow Operatives stop stuffing his locker with ballet slippers and tutus.


To: All Operatives
From: Cerberus Command (Achilles Cell, Minuteman Station, Horsehead Nebula)  

Just because Operative Leng is the commander of our Phantom units doesn't make him "the captain of the cheerleading squad".


Modifié par Dr. Doctor, 30 juillet 2012 - 02:43 .


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Cerberus cells do not communicate with one another. EDI states this.

Your hilarity is unfortunately invalidated by in game lore.

Sorry about the buzzkill.

Modifié par Taboo-XX, 30 juillet 2012 - 02:50 .


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Taboo-XX wrote...

Cerberus cells do not communicate with one another. EDI states this.


Officially, maybe. They're probably like high school students, passing notes to each other behind the Illusive Man's back.

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Taboo-XX wrote...

In the old script you had to choose between Liara and the VS at one point. One had to die.

What could have been. What could have been.


Could I have picked both to die? I mean I'd save Kaidan, because the only reason I keep Ashley alive in my second playthrough is to kill her in ME3. I'm dead serious.

I'm even thinking of doing a low EMS run just to watch Liara and Ashley get vaporized by Harbinger.




:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

Modifié par fiendishchicken, 30 juillet 2012 - 03:11 .


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Hey, ME2 Mirimance question:

So I'm doing a proper Mirimance playthrough (Me2-3), and my import character romanced Liara (Since Miri dies if you breakup with her, I just decided all playthroughs would be Ashley or Miranda, but never both). How far do I have to go to make sure my Shep doesn't kiss Liara when they meet up? Do I just have to do the renegade kiss steal (which should never be renegade IMO), or do I need to wait till after the collector base (since that's when you get the engine room scene)? Plus, I really want to get the post mission line from Liara about how Miranda is changed for the better while being with Shep (to be fair, I'm playing as a renegade who will slowly change for the better as well, as they both have a good influence on each other).

So yeah, should I just do LOTSB after the collector mission to get the best results?

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krukow wrote...

Hey, ME2 Mirimance question:

So I'm doing a proper Mirimance playthrough (Me2-3), and my import character romanced Liara (Since Miri dies if you breakup with her, I just decided all playthroughs would be Ashley or Miranda, but never both). How far do I have to go to make sure my Shep doesn't kiss Liara when they meet up? Do I just have to do the renegade kiss steal (which should never be renegade IMO), or do I need to wait till after the collector base (since that's when you get the engine room scene)? Plus, I really want to get the post mission line from Liara about how Miranda is changed for the better while being with Shep (to be fair, I'm playing as a renegade who will slowly change for the better as well, as they both have a good influence on each other).

So yeah, should I just do LOTSB after the collector mission to get the best results?


Engine room.

And do LotSB after the suicide mission.

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I think you're okay once you...commit. Do LotSB after the Collector Mission. That's what you're supposed to do.

Although I would imagine this would add fuel to the "Stalker scenario".

"MIRANDA STOLE SHEPARD FROM ME."

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I that stayed in the Script, BioWare would have possibly created a Scenario that cannot vary, making us have no choice but to save Liara depending on the situation<_<, unlike Virmire when you had a chance to pick either one to go with Kirrahe and his team, or to take care of the bomb.

Modifié par MASSEFFECTfanforlife101, 30 juillet 2012 - 03:14 .


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Taboo-XX wrote...

I think you're okay once you...commit. Do LotSB after the Collector Mission. That's what you're supposed to do.

Although I would imagine this would add fuel to the "Stalker scenario".

"MIRANDA STOLE SHEPARD FROM ME."


Liara: Miranda stole shepard from me!
My Shep: I only romanced you because I didn't want to cheat on Ashley when I finally met Miri.  You were a placeholder.
Liara: <cries><discovers nothing of value while being a shadowbroker>

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To be fair, having my Shepard be with Miranda is more than enough for me.

Too bad Liara.

HA HA HA.

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Taboo-XX wrote...

To be fair, having my Shepard be with Miranda is more than enough for me.

Too bad Liara.

HA HA HA.


You don't play ME1.  You have to romance one of them (even if you don't sleep with them, it considers one or the other romanced).  And I'm never breaking up with Ashley, soooooo...

So Liara has to be my placeholder. 

It's kinda fun to break up with her in ME3 though.

Liara: I assume your thing with Mrs. Lawson is over?
Shep: Nope, but hey, we had good times, right?  Like that time I faked my death to get away from you?

I altered Shep's line slightly.

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fiendishchicken wrote...


Could I have picked both to die? I mean I'd save Kaidan, because the only reason I keep Ashley alive in my second playthrough is to kill her in ME3. I'm dead serious.

I'm even thinking of doing a low EMS run just to watch Liara and Ashley get vaporized by Harbinger.




:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:


Ouch. I wouldn't even do that.

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MASSEFFECTfanforlife101 wrote...

fiendishchicken wrote...


Could I have picked both to die? I mean I'd save Kaidan, because the only reason I keep Ashley alive in my second playthrough is to kill her in ME3. I'm dead serious.

I'm even thinking of doing a low EMS run just to watch Liara and Ashley get vaporized by Harbinger.




:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:


Ouch. I wouldn't even do that.


It's very..... satisfying to watch. B)