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[Taboo]

I actually read on Twitter last night that Mark Meer recorded right versions of "STEEEEEVE!" but that's the one that got used. He doesn't like it either.

Also, you should know that he, Miss Hale and Miss Hillis all support a reunion and babies. THAT was a funny conversation.

[krukow]

I think they need to add a reunion slide for Miranda where Shepard saves her from Dexter.

[Stalker]

What do you think is so bad about her being in Dexter? I have no idea what the show is like, but it seems popular and therefore a nice opportunity to stay relevant for her...

[Taboo]

jtav wrote...

Miranda could credibly be either hetero- or bisexual. Since the romance is entirely player-initiated, "you never asked" is valid. And the dialogue with FShep is flirty to a degree that makes me uncomfortable. I know it's resources, but I run with it. It amuses me to write the poster girl as queer. And I daresay there are people out there who are a better match for her than Shepard. My attachment to the romance isn't to the one onscreen. It's to the one I wrote in my head. With a Shepard who goes against canon on a few points.

I took a class on Queer Cinema. I've  studied it extensively. I'd be happy to give you recommendations if you want.

They don't appreaciate the most common sterotype being used. Women are either straight or Bisexual in Western art. They are never Lesbians. Attaching Bisexuality to Miranda would make her a stereotype, as evidenced in the writings of people like B. Ruby Rich.

The most accurate depictions of LGBT characters are Steve, Traynor and Kaidan. The most accurate (or fitting) portrayl of pansexuality, or omnisexuality is Liara.

This is actually a source of great debate in those communities. If you'd like, I can put you in contact with a critic of Queer Cinema.

[Taboo]

Mr Massakka wrote...

What do you think is so bad about her being in Dexter? I have no idea what the show is like, but it seems popular and therefore a nice opportunity to stay relevant for her...

Miss Strahovski's business is her business, but the show has been in decline for a long time. If the season goes poorly it could damage her career.

Also, no one who has guest starred on that show has had much work past it. Playing certains roles can make you unmarketable. I'd be more than willing to tell you horror stories about roles that have destroyed people's careers.

[krukow]

Mr Massakka wrote...

What do you think is so bad about her being in Dexter? I have no idea what the show is like, but it seems popular and therefore a nice opportunity to stay relevant for her...

I'm very happy for Ms. Yvonne, I'm just not excited for the type of send-off I'm sure her character is going to get on that show

Hopefully she'll get a Lumen send-off...

[Taboo]

Showtime and HBO hire quality actors to make quality programs. But past that most of the stars are not marketable. That's one of the reason I watch them and only them.

Michael C. Hall will never work the way he wants once Dexter ends. His career will be streamlined into things that aren't worthy of his talent. He's great in Dexter, but he won't be wanted by people after this.

[krukow]

Taboo-XX wrote...

Showtime and HBO hire quality actors to make quality programs. But past that most of the stars are not marketable. That's one of the reason I watch them and only them.

Michael C. Hall will never work the way he wants once Dexter ends. His career will be streamlined into things that aren't worthy of his talent. He's great in Dexter, but he won't be wanted by people after this.

Couldn't you say that for any show though?  I mean, has any star of a long-running television show ever gone on to do diverse work afterwards?  They always get shoe-horned...

Except for Idris Elba, but c'mon, he's just awesome.

[fiendishchicken]

Taboo-XX wrote...

Showtime and HBO hire quality actors to make quality programs. But past that most of the stars are not marketable. That's one of the reason I watch them and only them.

Michael C. Hall will never work the way he wants once Dexter ends. His career will be streamlined into things that aren't worthy of his talent. He's great in Dexter, but he won't be wanted by people after this.

So by marketable, is it all about sex appeal? Or just different (like how everyone thinks Zooey Deschanel is the epitome of the awkward nerd girl.)

[fiendishchicken]

krukow wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...

Showtime and HBO hire quality actors to make quality programs. But past that most of the stars are not marketable. That's one of the reason I watch them and only them.

Michael C. Hall will never work the way he wants once Dexter ends. His career will be streamlined into things that aren't worthy of his talent. He's great in Dexter, but he won't be wanted by people after this.

Couldn't you say that for any show though?  I mean, has any star of a long-running television show ever gone on to do diverse work afterwards?  They always get shoe-horned...

Except for Idris Elba, but c'mon, he's just awesome.

Well Zach Levi is using it to his advantage. Right now, 'nerd' is in. Mind you it's the Hollywood nerd, basically take any decent looking guy, ruffle his hair a bit, put on thick rimmed glasses, and have him wear a star wars t-shirt and chuck taylors.

[Taboo]

krukow wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...

Showtime and HBO hire quality actors to make quality programs. But past that most of the stars are not marketable. That's one of the reason I watch them and only them.

Michael C. Hall will never work the way he wants once Dexter ends. His career will be streamlined into things that aren't worthy of his talent. He's great in Dexter, but he won't be wanted by people after this.

Couldn't you say that for any show though?  I mean, has any star of a long-running television show ever gone on to do diverse work afterwards?  They always get shoe-horned...

Except for Idris Elba, but c'mon, he's just awesome.

No.

Dexter is not a marketable role. At all. Miss Strahovski's role won't be either.

The only reason she's had success is because of her cult following. From what I've heard she's great actress but that really doesn't mean anything to Producers. She just turned thirty today. She has ten years left. Ten. And that isn't me being grousy. Once she turns forty roles dry up like a grape in the sun. Hollywood is den of hate at times. Miss Strahovski is only as good as the money she can bring in.

I'm more than certain she was brought to Dexter to try and boost ratings, which were abysmal last season. I'm more than certain she'll be showing some skin because the producers wanted it that way.

No one on Dexter has had much in the terms of roles afterwords. Lithgow even won awards for his role. I'm sure she'll be okay but if it goes badly things can go real sour, REAL fast.

[Sifr]

fiendishchicken wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...

Showtime and HBO hire quality actors to make quality programs. But past that most of the stars are not marketable. That's one of the reason I watch them and only them.

Michael C. Hall will never work the way he wants once Dexter ends. His career will be streamlined into things that aren't worthy of his talent. He's great in Dexter, but he won't be wanted by people after this.

So by marketable, is it all about sex appeal? Or just different (like how everyone thinks Zooey Deschanel is the epitome of the awkward nerd girl.)

You could argue that's even applicable in Mass Effect, as despite her acting talent and the fact that Miranda is a strong, independent female character, the game still goes out of it's way to highlight her sexuality in a gratuitous way.

Also, while I love Zooey Deschanel, enough with the Manic Pixie Dream Girl routine already! Yes, you're cute and a reasonably good actress, but you're not as quirky as you think you are and as adorable as Merrill from Dragon Age 2, dammit!

[Skullheart]

I want to see Dexter butchering yvonne's character. However, the show hasn't been so good in the previous seasons (imo, the 2nd season is the best).

I wanted to see this in the new season.

Well, enough of yvonne for now. If she doesn't care to voice Miranda again, bw should look someone to replace her.

[krukow]

Taboo-XX wrote...

krukow wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...

Showtime and HBO hire quality actors to make quality programs. But past that most of the stars are not marketable. That's one of the reason I watch them and only them.

Michael C. Hall will never work the way he wants once Dexter ends. His career will be streamlined into things that aren't worthy of his talent. He's great in Dexter, but he won't be wanted by people after this.

Couldn't you say that for any show though?  I mean, has any star of a long-running television show ever gone on to do diverse work afterwards?  They always get shoe-horned...

Except for Idris Elba, but c'mon, he's just awesome.

No.

Dexter is not a marketable role. At all. Miss Strahovski's role won't be either.

The only reason she's had success is because of her cult following. From what I've heard she's great actress but that really doesn't mean anything to Producers. She just turned thirty today. She has ten years left. Ten. And that isn't me being grousy. Once she turns forty roles dry up like a grape in the sun. Hollywood is den of hate at times. Miss Strahovski is only as good as the money she can bring in.

I'm more than certain she was brought to Dexter to try and boost ratings, which were abysmal last season. I'm more than certain she'll be showing some skin because the producers wanted it that way.

No one on Dexter has had much in the terms of roles afterwords. Lithgow even won awards for his role. I'm sure she'll be okay but if it goes badly things can go real sour, REAL fast.

You're sadly very correct about that unless she turns into some awesome oscar winning actress before then.

She could always do more voice work

[krukow]

Skullheart wrote...

I want to see Dexter butchering yvonne's character. However, the show hasn't been so good in the previous seasons (imo, the 2nd season is the best).

I wanted to see this in the new season.

Well, enough of yvonne for now. If she doesn't care to voice Miranda again, bw should look someone to replace her.

What makes you think she doesn't?  She came back for the game didn't she?

Or did I not see something that you all know about?

Modifié par krukow, 30 juillet 2012 - 05:24 .

[Taboo]

Winning Oscars doesn't help either. The only reason people like Meryl Streep and Helen Mirren are around is because they're marketable.

Hollywood doesn't care.

[Taboo]

krukow wrote...

Skullheart wrote...

I want to see Dexter butchering yvonne's character. However, the show hasn't been so good in the previous seasons (imo, the 2nd season is the best).

I wanted to see this in the new season.

Well, enough of yvonne for now. If she doesn't care to voice Miranda again, bw should look someone to replace her.

What makes you think she doesn't?  She came back for the game didn't she?

Or did I not see something that you all know about?

She'll come back if she's asked.

Money is money and she'll need to stay busy.

These are facts.

[krukow]

Taboo-XX wrote...

Winning Oscars doesn't help either. The only reason people like Meryl Streep and Helen Mirren are around is because they're marketable.

Hollywood doesn't care.

That's what I'm saying.  They're marketable because they're considered by the populace to be great actresses.

So in order to extend her career, Yvonne would have to achieve the same public sentiment.

[fiendishchicken]

krukow wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...

krukow wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...

Showtime and HBO hire quality actors to make quality programs. But past that most of the stars are not marketable. That's one of the reason I watch them and only them.

Michael C. Hall will never work the way he wants once Dexter ends. His career will be streamlined into things that aren't worthy of his talent. He's great in Dexter, but he won't be wanted by people after this.

Couldn't you say that for any show though?  I mean, has any star of a long-running television show ever gone on to do diverse work afterwards?  They always get shoe-horned...

Except for Idris Elba, but c'mon, he's just awesome.

No.

Dexter is not a marketable role. At all. Miss Strahovski's role won't be either.

The only reason she's had success is because of her cult following. From what I've heard she's great actress but that really doesn't mean anything to Producers. She just turned thirty today. She has ten years left. Ten. And that isn't me being grousy. Once she turns forty roles dry up like a grape in the sun. Hollywood is den of hate at times. Miss Strahovski is only as good as the money she can bring in.

I'm more than certain she was brought to Dexter to try and boost ratings, which were abysmal last season. I'm more than certain she'll be showing some skin because the producers wanted it that way.

No one on Dexter has had much in the terms of roles afterwords. Lithgow even won awards for his role. I'm sure she'll be okay but if it goes badly things can go real sour, REAL fast.

You're sadly very correct about that unless she turns into some awesome oscar winning actress before then.

She could always do more voice work

I MUST SAVE TRICIA HELFER! SHE ONLY HAS 2 YEARS LEFT!

[Taboo]

Miss Strahovski works because she wants to, it's become more than evident to me that she doesn't care about the spotlight.

She'll voice Miranda again if she's asked to because it's work. Work is GOOD.

[Stalker]

krukow wrote...

Skullheart wrote...

I want to see Dexter butchering yvonne's character. However, the show hasn't been so good in the previous seasons (imo, the 2nd season is the best).

I wanted to see this in the new season.

Well, enough of yvonne for now. If she doesn't care to voice Miranda again, bw should look someone to replace her.

What makes you think she doesn't?  She came back for the game didn't she?

Or did I not see something that you all know about?

This discussion came up a few times and probably filled a hundred pages already.

On the one side there are the people who can just see Yvonne as Miranda and would be greatly dissapointed if she doesn't come back.

On the other side there are the people (to which Skullheart belongs to) who believe she could possibly be too busy, too expensive or unwilling to do more voice work and value more Miranda content over the importance of her VA.


I am of the opinion that Yvonne is essential for the role and I don't see a difficulty of bringing her back.

Modifié par Mr Massakka, 30 juillet 2012 - 05:35 .

[TheMarshal]

Taboo-XX wrote...

Showtime and HBO hire quality actors to make quality programs. But past that most of the stars are not marketable. That's one of the reason I watch them and only them.

Michael C. Hall will never work the way he wants once Dexter ends. His career will be streamlined into things that aren't worthy of his talent. He's great in Dexter, but he won't be wanted by people after this.

Plenty of people who are made famous for one role go on to have successful careers.  Ed O'Neill was on Married with Children for, what, eleven years?  He's had a number of minor recurring roles and now pays the bills with Modern Family.  David Boreanaz played Angel across two series spanning almost eight years, which is about how long he's been on Bones.  Kelsey Grammer was Frasier Crane for twenty years, and while he seems to be stepping behind the camera more often than not these days, I'd still say he's still got a fulfilling career.

It's not a foregone conclusion that someone who makes it big with a single role can't go on to do other great things.

[wright1978]

Taboo-XX wrote...

Miss Strahovski works because she wants to, it's become more than evident to me that she doesn't care about the spotlight.

She'll voice Miranda again if she's asked to because it's work. Work is GOOD.

Also video games are  a medium that could possibly extend her career and saying no wouldn't be that sensible.
My worry would be that for an optional couldbe dead role are they going to go to the expense to call in those voice actors for dlc rather than any worry over Yvonne being happy to come back into the studio.

[Taboo]

Being busy in Hollywood means you're working on a huge big budget film like TDKR. Miss Strahovski is not working on anything like that. Money has nothing to do with it either. The reason Miranda isn't in the game more is because Bioware wanted it to be this way.

You work in the business because you HAVE to. If you have a secure way to make money you do it.

Bioware is the issue here, not Miss Strahovski.

Modifié par Taboo-XX, 30 juillet 2012 - 05:36 .

[MASSEFFECTfanforlife101]

HAPPY BIRTHDAY YVONNE<3!

Modifié par MASSEFFECTfanforlife101, 30 juillet 2012 - 05:38 .