jtav wrote...
And partly because we were hoping that, if we were loud enough, BW would listen. ME3 is almost my worst case scenario regarding Miranda.
Modifié par flemm, 02 août 2012 - 04:41 .
fiendishchicken wrote...
Taboo-XX wrote...
My concern is the marketing, not how much she's been paid.
For a character that was the poster child of the last game, I just think it's odd that they would sideline her THIS much.
That's my issue.
same with Thane.
Bioware took the most loved characters in the franchise (the ME2 squaddies) and then turned them into 10 minute cameo's in a 40 hour game.
Taboo-XX wrote...
My concern is the marketing, not how much she's been paid.
For a character that was the poster child of the last game, I just think it's odd that they would sideline her THIS much.
That's my issue.
hot_heart wrote...
I think that's to do with who's looking at what. Lately, with the Leviathan leak and that tweet, people have been looking at his profile.
As far as I can tell, IMDB listing doesn't really have anything to do with BioWare or EA's intentions.
Modifié par jtav, 02 août 2012 - 04:47 .
hot_heart wrote...
I think that's to do with who's looking at what. Lately, with the Leviathan leak and that tweet, people have been looking at his profile.
As far as I can tell, IMDB listing doesn't really have anything to do with BioWare or EA's intentions.
I don't think it would have been such an issue to find a character that takes Miranda's tasks for the unfortunate case that she is dead: Mordin, Legion, Garrus and Tali all got respectable roles, regardless of their possible death.Vertigo_1 wrote...
Taboo-XX wrote...
My concern is the marketing, not how much she's been paid.
For a character that was the poster child of the last game, I just think it's odd that they would sideline her THIS much.
That's my issue.
She was the focus as a new character in the last game, but not this game (ME3). They seem to change with each game
She can be dead in ME3 too, and Bioware doesn't take risks like giving her a meaty role.
Weekes already said they create missions that everyone can play regardless of who is dead or alive.
Focus in ME3 marketing was to get new folks into the series too
I have both of them games. Nier and Saints Row 3. I started Nier but stop after a little bit. Not enough time to play all the games I want to play.hot_heart wrote...
I really like Laura Bailey's voice as Kainé in Nier and as one of the options in Saints Row 3.enayasoul wrote...
Hmm... the imdb lists Laura Bailey (Oriana) as playing ensign rodriquez, Dr. Eva Core', PTSD Asari commando, Lt. Karin for Mass Effect. What I found very interesting is she's listed as voicing Kira Carsen? In Knights of the Old Republic. I actually enjoy having my companion team up with her. (my one only Republic character, the rest are imperials, so far.) Jaiana Proudmore in World of Warcraft too? I never noticed.
Have to wonder if these are accurate... she's been a busy lady.
Not as Oriana though...
Also, IMDB is not an official cast listing. I think there's behind-the-scenes rating stuff that alters where they appear. Best to check the actual game credits.
Mr Massakka wrote...
I don't think it would have been such an issue to find a character that takes Miranda's tasks for the unfortunate case that she is dead: Mordin, Legion, Garrus and Tali all got respectable roles, regardless of their possible death.
I can't imagine a single meaningful Cerberus plot where EDI would be unable to replace Miranda...
Modifié par flemm, 02 août 2012 - 04:54 .
Popularity and they were involved in major plot points (at least that's how I see it).Mr Massakka wrote...
Mordin, Legion, Garrus and Tali all got respectable roles, regardless of their possible death.
Mr Massakka wrote...
I can't imagine a single meaningful Cerberus plot where EDI would be unable to replace Miranda...
Modifié par Vertigo_1, 02 août 2012 - 04:54 .
Vertigo_1 wrote...
Taboo-XX wrote...
My concern is the marketing, not how much she's been paid.
For a character that was the poster child of the last game, I just think it's odd that they would sideline her THIS much.
That's my issue.
She was the focus as a new character in the last game, but not this game (ME3). They seem to change with each game
She can be dead in ME3 too, and Bioware doesn't take risks like giving her a meaty role.
Weekes already said they create missions that everyone can play regardless of who is dead or alive.
Focus in ME3 marketing was to get new folks into the series too
Sure, but it's not like we were asking for another poster-role, right?flemm wrote...
Mr Massakka wrote...
I don't think it would have been such an issue to find a character that takes Miranda's tasks for the unfortunate case that she is dead: Mordin, Legion, Garrus and Tali all got respectable roles, regardless of their possible death.
I can't imagine a single meaningful Cerberus plot where EDI would be unable to replace Miranda...
Yeah, but part of what Vertigo means is that they intentionally change focus in terms of which characters are the important/lead characters. From ME1 to ME2 they did the same thing.
Modifié par Mr Massakka, 02 août 2012 - 05:00 .
fiendishchicken wrote...
How I would have made the game for new players.
New Game - Select game type - select difficulty - then a message appears. "Welcome to Mass Effect. Do to the undesirable effect of you starting the trilogy on the last installment, we will not be allowing you to play this game until you have successfully uploaded an import from at least Mass Effect 2, preferably from both prior games. Have a nice day new fan."
Modifié par Taboo-XX, 02 août 2012 - 05:00 .
Mr Massakka wrote...
Sure, but it's not like we were asking for another poster-role, right?
The more the better, but I would have been satisfied if she is "just" the Mordin of the Cerberus plot: spending some time on the Normandy and finish an important task that further developes the story.
Modifié par flemm, 02 août 2012 - 05:01 .
Taboo-XX wrote...
Tali's role is interchangeable with another Admiral. From what I've been told she's here because the Talimancers wanted her to be there. She wasn't in the game originally.
Vertigo_1 wrote...
Taboo-XX wrote...
Tali's role is interchangeable with another Admiral. From what I've been told she's here because the Talimancers wanted her to be there. She wasn't in the game originally.
As squadmate? Yeah she wasn't. She was added in late due to high popularity with the Talimancers (mainly). Chris Prieslty mentioned this a few months before ME3 launched.
Her default outfit is the one used in ME2, though, one can argue that she wouldn't change suits that fast or...something
My saying. It's not becaue she is a possible death or doesn't fit in the story-line, the whole game is just build on popularity statistics: They bring in who people like and Miranda just "wasn't worth the effort". I get that.Vertigo_1 wrote...
Popularity and they were involved in major plot points (at least that's how I see it).Mr Massakka wrote...
Mordin, Legion, Garrus and Tali all got respectable roles, regardless of their possible death.
Miranda wasn't involved as much with the Cerberus plot (though Cerberus was kinda thrown under the rug in ME3) and I don't see her as popular as Tali/Garrus
Modifié par Mr Massakka, 02 août 2012 - 05:06 .
krukow wrote...
fiendishchicken wrote...
How I would have made the game for new players.
New Game - Select game type - select difficulty - then a message appears. "Welcome to Mass Effect. Do to the undesirable effect of you starting the trilogy on the last installment, we will not be allowing you to play this game until you have successfully uploaded an import from at least Mass Effect 2, preferably from both prior games. Have a nice day new fan."
No offense, but that's why you don't work in the industry.
Just make the default have Miranda alive (it does anyways). If she's dead, use a dummy character like they do for Garrus. Then she's a squaddie. Easy.
Besides, as I understand it, she's one of the toughest to kill...
Modifié par fiendishchicken, 02 août 2012 - 05:05 .
fiendishchicken wrote...
How I would have made the game for new players.
New Game - Select game type - select difficulty - then a message appears. "Welcome to Mass Effect. Do to the undesirable effect of you starting the trilogy on the last installment, we will not be allowing you to play this game until you have successfully uploaded an import from at least Mass Effect 2, preferably from both prior games. Have a nice day new fan."
jtav wrote...
I'd actually dispute Liara being the favored LI, but that's neither here nor there.
One thing: Miranda is human. You need a few humans as something familiar, but humans don't "sell" like aliens do. The devs strike me as somewhat cynical. Miranda's T&A was her "selling" point. Give that to Ash and you don't really need Miranda in a big role. Not that I agree.
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