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[MisterJB]

MASSEFFECTfanforlife101 wrote...
 That's incredibly bizarre! How is this possible? 

Because having your hands at chest level is not an incredibly remarkable feat that only one people in a million can perform.
It's funny that Strahovsky emulated one of Miranda's trademarks but it is nothing outwordly.

[krukow]

They might have gotten it from her for all we know.

[Taboo]

It's entirely possible it's a coincedence. Anderson scratches his chest.

I'm fairly cetain Miss Strahovski scratches her shoulders and pulls her pants up like everyone else.

Mass Effect just uses simple animations for re-adjustment.

[fiendishchicken]

Taboo-XX wrote...

Los Angeles is a sink or swim city, you either adapt or you get swallowed. What I meant by acting was doing things she wasn't used to. It's become more than evident to me why she's popular and it also explains why she wants to try new things, even Dexter, to break out of that mold.

I refer back to the lyric from Hotel California.

"You can check out anytime you like, but you can never leave."

I was born in Los Angeles... Starting to look like I might die there too.

Even though I'm in Chicago right now.

[spirosz]

Taboo-XX wrote...

Ieldra still hasn't seen this to the best of my knowledge.

Hey, what's the track called? 

[CrutchCricket]

krukow wrote...
We were fighting Galactus, just Rise of the Silver Surfer Galactus (consuming swarm with an overmind).

...which is actually lamer...

Well if you go by that brief sihouette shot of the helmet, Galactus in that movie was legit. But they threw on the cloud effect because it would've been stupid to reveal such a big dramatic moment in the last 5 min of the movie.

Hear that Bioware? The movie widely regarded as one of the worst comic book adaptations ever made and it still did something better than you.

But that's neither here nor there.

[Taboo]

Los Angeles really is a wonderful place if you're in the right places. But it has an underbelly that's so disgusting it's not even remotely funny.

It's a bit like standing on the tip of a knife. One slip and you fall off completely, or worse, you cut yourself all the way to the bottom. You can always pick yourself up and crawl back to the top, but it's always painful.

And that's why I worry about most young women who are rising stars. You sit upon the possibility for greatness, but you can only go so far, so fast.

If this role in Dexter turns out like I think it might, people are going to be really alienated.

[Taboo]

spirosz wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...

Ieldra still hasn't seen this to the best of my knowledge.

Hey, what's the track called? 

That's the theme from the film.

It's a piece composed especially for the film.

It's by a man named Edward Artemiev and it's entitled Meditation.

Here's a link to it. And no, you won't find a copy on a CD in the United States.

[MisterJB]

Ieldra2 wrote...
Again, I disagree. Hinting at higher motives is like a promise that at some point they will be revealed. I would have found it an epic disappointment if  "Reaperduction" was all there was to the cycle after all those hints that there's more. In fact, it would probably ruined the trilogy for me. An SF trilogy that ends up with nothing more interesting than "kill the monsters"? Boring. That's not why I'm a fan of SF. Any generic fantasy story will give me that. 

Exactly. Where is man's desire to learn what is hidden in the shadows? Where is that spark of curiosity about what is out there that motivates Sci-Fi itself?

I don't want Shepard to give some speech about how the Reapers are unknowable gods. I want Shepard to speak on equal terms with Harbinger/The Catalyst/Leviathan and then figure out a solution to the problem that has plagued the galaxy for billions of years.

And don't bother pointing out the Reapers are the problem. I didn't specify which of the three solutions is the right one. There are enough places on this forum to discuss that.

[Taboo]

Shepard has always been able to speak with the Reapers. That alone tells you they are not unknowable. Had they been true Lovecraftian horrors we wouldn't be able to communicate with them. They're advanced machine/synthetic/organic hybrids.

They're also a work around to a problem, which is why the Catalyst is so full of ****. He doesn't make steps to really solve the issue, he simply side steps it. It's a simple solution and it works.

He won't listen because he's a machine programmed to think he's right.

The purpose of the Leviathan DLC is to show that the Reapers are more fallible than we thought they were. This is evidenced is the leaked game files.

It's always been based on a fallacious idealology from the Catalyst, I've been saying that for months.

Modifié par Taboo-XX, 03 août 2012 - 06:35 .

[krukow]

Actually fallacious idealogy from its creators. Which shouldn't be suprising, since their ideas got them reaperized...

Good job fellas.

Modifié par krukow, 03 août 2012 - 06:37 .

[Taboo]

krukow wrote...

Actually fallacious idealogy from its creators. Which shouldn't be suprising, since their ideas got them reaperized...

Good job fellas.

It's nothing more than a cosmic tradgedy. Someone thought they had a great idea and ****ed over two quintillion beings for it.

The only thing that really matters is how you wish to deal with the Reapers. And depending on the motivations of your Shepard, that could be any number of things.

Modifié par Taboo-XX, 03 août 2012 - 06:39 .

[krukow]

Taboo-XX wrote...

krukow wrote...

Actually fallacious idealogy from its creators. Which shouldn't be suprising, since their ideas got them reaperized...

Good job fellas.

It's nothing more than a cosmic tradgedy. Someone thought they had a great idea and ****ed over two quintillion beings for it.

The only thing that really matters is how you wish to deal with the Reapers. And depending on the motivations of your Shepard, that could be any number of things.

Actually, no, there's only one.  Shoot the tube.  Otherwise you've left the reapers as the most powerful race in the galaxy.  They aren't dealt with, their motivations are just different.  For now...

[Taboo]

They're all solutions, as they resolve the Reaper threat in one way or another.

Destroy isn't so much the foolish choice, as it is the one that is the most reflective of organic's ability to solve a solution simply, just like the Catalyst.

It's brutal and efficient and it works. But it leaves things intact.

Shepard surviving isn't so much a blessing to me as it is a way to take responsibility for using the Crucible, which I think he needs to do.

Modifié par Taboo-XX, 03 août 2012 - 06:51 .

[krukow]

Taboo-XX wrote...

They're all solutions, as they resolve the Reaper threat in one way or another.

Destroy isn't so much the foolish choice, as it is the one that is the most reflective of organic's ability to solve a solution simply, just like the Catalyst.

It's brutal and efficient and it works. But it leaves things intact.

Shepard surviving is so much a blessing to me as it is a way to take responsibility for using the Crucible, which I think he needs to do.

No they aren't.  The reapers still exist.  And they still have the potential to go rogue, as we're all about to pay $10 to find out.

Shoot the tube.

You know Miranda would...

Modifié par krukow, 03 août 2012 - 06:51 .

[Sifr]

Taboo-XX wrote...

They're all solutions, as they resolve the Reaper threat in one way or another.

Destroy isn't so much the foolish choice, as it is the one that is the most reflective of organic's ability to solve a solution simply, just like the Catalyst.

It's brutal and efficient and it works. But it leaves things intact.

Shepard surviving is so much a blessing to me as it is a way to take responsibility for using the Crucible, which I think he needs to do.

Definitely. Shepard needed to take responsibility for Destroy, having supported the Geth in their quest for sentience, only to end up forced to destroy them, as well as bringing Joker and EDI together, only to then cause Joker to lose the love of his life. And Shepard still hasn't really dealt with the Bahak Relay explosion...

It's the same reason why in Dragon Age, my Warden will always follow Morrigan through the Eluvian to see their Old God Child, because they should take responsibilty for their actions and the consequences they might have.

Modifié par Sifr1449, 03 août 2012 - 06:54 .

[MisterJB]

krukow wrote...
No they aren't.  The reapers still exist.

Either as servants or allies which I count as compelling reasons to not pick Destroy.
I'm sure you'll point out Leviathan as evidence the Reapers are still dangerous but the truth is we don't know virtually anything about it.

[fiendishchicken]

MisterJB wrote...

Exactly. Where is man's desire to learn what is hidden in the shadows? Where is that spark of curiosity about what is out there that motivates Sci-Fi itself?

I don't want Shepard to give some speech about how the Reapers are unknowable gods. I want Shepard to speak on equal terms with Harbinger/The Catalyst/Leviathan and then figure out a solution to the problem that has plagued the galaxy for billions of years.

And don't bother pointing out the Reapers are the problem. I didn't specify which of the three solutions is the right one. There are enough places on this forum to discuss that.

Some things can't be learned and shouldn't be learned. The Reapers are not organic nor are they synthetic. They are of an entirely different and alien consciousness, something that is unfathomable to us, just as say the geth collective is unknowable to us, or just as we are unknowable to the geth. 

I'm going to say this: I admire and cherish the concepts of understanding and decyphering the big unknowns in the universe, but the Reapers are something that should not be understood. They are fundamentally different from us. I believe that trying to understand the Reapers is like trying to describe what color is to a being without eyes.

And the only observable traits the reapers have ever promoted is that they wish to destroy us or keep us alive long enough so that we become their equivalent of sperm. I don't see the Reapers as mindless monsters, I see them as terrifying, calculating intelligences that want us dead for the purpose of imposing their sense of order on the universe.

They aren't taking half-measures with us, why should we. They *NEED* to be eradicated from this universe.

[CrutchCricket]

MisterJB wrote...
Exactly. Where is man's desire to learn what is hidden in the shadows? Where is that spark of curiosity about what is out there that motivates Sci-Fi itself?

I don't want Shepard to give some speech about how the Reapers are unknowable gods. I want Shepard to speak on equal terms with Harbinger/The Catalyst/Leviathan and then figure out a solution to the problem that has plagued the galaxy for billions of years.

Man can desire all he wants. There are some things he will never know, can never know.

And Shepard can claim equality all he wants. It won't make it true.

But I agree the drive should still be there. Just not that it must necessarily be successful.

[fiendishchicken]

MisterJB wrote...

krukow wrote...
No they aren't.  The reapers still exist.

Either as servants or allies which I count as compelling reasons to not pick Destroy.
I'm sure you'll point out Leviathan as evidence the Reapers are still dangerous but the truth is we don't know virtually anything about it.

The only things that should exist of the Reapers is their hulking corpses. Anything less is an insult to everyone the Reapers killed. 

[Taboo]

krukow wrote...

No they aren't.  The reapers still exist.  And they still have the potential to go rogue, as we're all about to pay $10 to find out.

Shoot the tube.

You know Miranda would...

I do it for a variety of reasons. I want people to be able to make their decisions for their own future, without the overbearing Shepard AI or the interference of Synthesis. Stopping the opposing force is the only thing he believes he has permission to do. Anything that occurs as blowback is his fault, not the galaxies.

My Shepard does what he thinks is right. I think more than anything he just wants it to stop. He's been at this for months non-stop.

It isn't just about Miranda and Shepard, that's selfish. All life is important and should be taken into account when a decision like this is involved. I have to work with what Bioware has given me.

Miranda isn't prize at the end of the tunnel, she's the balancing agent, the only one I've allowed in my ending.

I don't believe in playing in a land full of sunshines and rainbows. And I don't appreciate it in art either.

Modifié par Taboo-XX, 03 août 2012 - 07:04 .

[jtav]

I think you could make a compelling case for Miranda choosing either Synthesis or Destroy. Destroy is ends-justify-the-means: Miranda the operative. Synthesis is the strange new world: Miranda the scientist.

[fiendishchicken]

Taboo-XX wrote...

They're all solutions, as they resolve the Reaper threat in one way or another.

Destroy isn't so much the foolish choice, as it is the one that is the most reflective of organic's ability to solve a solution simply, just like the Catalyst.

It's brutal and efficient and it works. But it leaves things intact.

Shepard surviving isn't so much a blessing to me as it is a way to take responsibility for using the Crucible, which I think he needs to do.

The only solution is dead reapers. They ARE the problem. They do not permit life of any kind to grow of it's own accord. They do not let free and living beings live free. 

[krukow]

"you know Miranda would"= my attempt to stay on topic, though I do think that's what she'd pick.

I chose destroy because it's the only choice that frees the galaxy. Any other choice leaves the galaxy "free" in that it can do whatever it wants, as long as the reapers (or shep VI) agree. Otherwise, the Reapers/ShepVI represent a controlling agent that will prevent anything they disagree with (VIShep says as much in the epilogue).

Destroying the tube honestly reminds me of the ending of T2, where Sarah Conner is narrating while they drive along an open highway (that represents the freedom/possibility/unknown of the future). One of the best endings to a film ever, IMO.

[fiendishchicken]

Taboo-XX wrote...

krukow wrote...

No they aren't.  The reapers still exist.  And they still have the potential to go rogue, as we're all about to pay $10 to find out.

Shoot the tube.

You know Miranda would...

I do it for a variety of reasons. I want people to be able to make their decisions for their own future, without the overbearing Shepard AI or the interference of Synthesis. Stopping the opposing force is the only thing he believes he has permission to do. Anything that occurs as blowback is his fault, not the galaxies.

My Shepard does what he thinks is right. I think more than anything he just wants it to stop. He's been at this for months non-stop.

It isn't just about Miranda and Shepard, that's selfish. All life is important and should be taken into account when a decision like this is involved. I have to work with what Bioware has given me.

Miranda isn't prize at the end of the tunnel, she's the balancing agent, the only one I've allowed in my ending.

I don't believe in playing in a land full of sunshines and rainbows. And I don't appreciate it in art either.

I believe the land of sunshine and bunnie should be an option if you bust your ass to get it. Miranda was the prize for my Shepard. He'd almost entirely given up on the galaxy after everything that has happened in ME3. He was living and fighting now for the right to choose his own fate and that of his beloved. And he's going to live to so he can have that future.